Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #6macros, 2015-04-06

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11:06 Ven masak: https://github.com/masak/ipso/pull/1/files :P
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12:47 masak merged. thank you.
12:48 masak ipso was a fun little experiment. but it made me realize that "you can't get there from here". I had this unrealistic feeling that a metacircular evaluator would be the starting point for a lot of extensibility, but once I had one it was more "ok, now what?"
12:49 masak right, that's evident in the "Plans" section in the README.md
12:59 Ven oh lol. I clicked that, and I got to http://readme.md
12:59 Ven this redirects to https://github.com/echonest/pyechonest/blob/master/README.md
13:11 Ven you stopped before macros in ipso, uh?
13:19 masak yeah.
13:19 masak it was just a small experiment in implementing a metacircular interpreter.
13:19 masak but it made me start thinking of 007, eventually.
13:29 Ven wouldn't macros have been the starting point to "extensibility"?
13:29 Ven or do you just mean, extending the interpreter from the code
13:31 masak I wanted to end up somewhere close to Perl 6. but I only saw how I could end up somewhere close to Lisp.
13:34 Ven ..missing? :)
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18:25 vendethiel masak: ha, I never received that part
18:25 vendethiel what's missing in lisp you have in perl6 you couldn't get in ipso?
18:29 masak Perl 6 syntax.
18:32 masak or let's be fair and say "ALGOL-like syntax"
18:35 vendethiel mmhhh. These day I might consider I find lisp-like syntax more readable...
18:37 masak even if I agreed with that, and I guess I do at some level, the attitude itself is of little use to me in my role as Perl 6 macros grantee.
18:37 vendethiel i'm maybe unfair, and maybe it's because I've only been doing crappy C for the past week :)
19:27 vendethiel I sometimes realize I take a lot of "pride" in being interesting in perl6. actually, "pride" isn't the right word, but I think it's part of what I consider "defines me"
19:28 vendethiel "I know and can write Haskell, but I also know and can write C. I know and can write Lisp, but I can also know and can write Perl6"
19:32 masak :)
19:32 masak being an omnivore is something to be proud of.
19:38 vendethiel not sure if "proud" is the correct word
20:03 masak it's something I wish there were more of in the IT world. people monoculturally sticking to one language or one toolset seem to be in majority. but I find the minority much more fun to be around.
20:17 vendethiel "thanks, I guess" :P
20:20 masak life is too short for Blub

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