Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #6macros, 2015-08-23

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07:29 masak \o
07:30 masak lol @ "OpenOffice calc macros / formulas" :)
07:32 vendethiel :D
07:32 vendethiel o/, masak
07:35 masak vendethiel: are you coming to only SPW, or SPW + YAPC::Europe ?
07:35 vendethiel only SPW
07:35 masak ok, good to know.
07:35 vendethiel well, no one has talked to me about YAPC::Europe, so :-)
07:36 masak hehe
07:36 vendethiel are you going to YAPC::EU?
07:36 masak yes
07:36 vendethiel nice :)
07:36 masak I'd like to take some time and sit down and evolve a way forwards of sorts
07:36 masak for macros in Perl 6
07:36 masak I mean, the general way forwards has been known for quite some time now
07:36 masak "use Qtrees"
07:37 masak but I'd like to drill down to specifics
07:37 masak and you seem to be the person to do that with
07:37 vendethiel fwiw, that's one of the thing I told maettu++ I'd be inclined to do at SPW
07:37 vendethiel (I'd also love to get your opinion on my slides)
07:40 masak sure
07:40 * masak is struggling with his slides currently
07:40 * vendethiel only needs to write a conclusion
07:40 vendethiel or I should, at least :)
07:40 masak pro tip: if you're writing slides, don't also have a 7mo child
07:41 vendethiel I don't plan to have a 7mo child anytime soon anyway :)
07:42 masak there are pros and cons, to be sure
07:42 masak but "much easier to write slides" is not one of the pros
07:44 vendethiel ...note that it'd be a pretty interesting effect :o)
07:51 masak hm, did you show the "...{$x + $y}..." syntax before slide 31?
07:51 masak I don't remember.
07:51 masak "(hidden) fallbacks" -> "(implicit) fallbacks" ?
07:52 masak on slide 34, are you going to mention that you can do just `multi` instead of `multi sub` ?
07:53 vendethiel masak: I mention it a bit later, in the code examples
07:53 masak "Perl5's POD's sister" -> "Perl 5 POD's sister" ?
07:53 vendethiel I think I use Perl6 throughout the talk, that's why. should I uniformly change it to Perl 6?
07:54 vendethiel I think I have too many slides. that'll be hard to fit in 20 minutes...
07:54 masak did you mention literals as parameters before slide 40?
07:54 masak yes, please uniformly change it to "Perl 6".
07:55 vendethiel no, seems like I mostly use Perl 6
07:55 * vendethiel checks every slide
07:55 masak I like slide 45.
07:56 masak you can also search for the string "Perl6" using your editor.
07:56 vendethiel that's all done from the slides.com website :)
07:56 vendethiel which might of might not be a terrible idea
07:57 vendethiel fwiw, the only reason I introduce coercing is because I use it later in some MAIN
07:57 masak slide 48: "It also shows an ugly "Any" for the arguments..." -- I am confused as to what that refers to.
07:58 vendethiel oh whoops
07:58 vendethiel copy pasta fail
07:58 masak oh, I was convinced you had a text file somewhere and were editing the slides by hand.
07:58 masak anyway, nice.
07:58 vendethiel is "Pod6" correct, or is it Pod 6?
07:58 masak it's just "Pod".
07:58 vendethiel isn't it refered to as Pod6 in the design docs?
07:59 masak no.
07:59 masak for once, we were wise enough not to leave 6es around :>
07:59 * vendethiel fixes it
07:59 masak D<Pod> is an easy-to-use markup language with a simple, consistent
07:59 masak underlying document object model.
07:59 masak first sentence in S26.
07:59 vendethiel masak: did you get the xkcd reference on slide 38?
08:00 vendethiel yes, I just checked there as well :)
08:00 masak I'm sorry, I've seen that xkcd thing so many times, it barely registers :)
08:00 vendethiel :P
08:00 masak if you meant anything special with it beyond having it there, it went me by.
08:01 vendethiel I'm referring to the "chosen by fair dice roll" function slide
08:01 vendethiel (to demonstrate Pod)
08:02 vendethiel ok, I think I fixed all these
08:02 vendethiel thank you!
08:05 masak oh, I paused a little at the "chosen by fair dice roll" to ponder where I had heard that before.
08:05 masak my guess was that it was from S26 itself.
08:08 vendethiel great
08:08 vendethiel now I just need a conclusion
08:08 vendethiel and to reharse it before some friends :p
08:12 masak yeah :)
08:12 masak anyway, expect to spend (I guess) parts of the hackathon colluding on how to move forwards with macros in Rakudo. :)
08:13 vendethiel I hope so!
09:29 vendethiel ooh
09:29 vendethiel i realized
09:29 vendethiel i didn't show spaltted params
12:04 masak hehe
12:04 masak are they needed for what you show with MAIN?
12:05 masak or just an extra nice thing?
12:05 masak I would rather you showed literal params.
12:05 masak (somewhat of a pride of mine. I added them to the spec in ~2009)
12:32 vendethiel I show literal params, don't I?
12:33 vendethiel I even added an explanation
12:33 vendethiel if I'm write about it
12:33 vendethiel also no, that's just another extra thing
12:37 masak ok, I missed where you introduced literal params (before you used them in MAIN)
12:38 vendethiel I added it there after you recommended me to
12:39 masak ah, neat
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