Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2007-11-03

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12:47 olas hi edrin
12:47 olas did you get my emails?
12:49 olas what do you think about my idea of en extension point for rhino to hook in classes for scripting?
13:15 edrin hi olas
13:16 edrin yes, i got your emails
13:16 edrin i prefere my med.uni address
13:16 edrin obviously you figured out how to do the thing
13:20 edrin indeed i was about to reply the emails now
13:21 edrin and about the requirement to have a plugin on rhino's dependecies...
13:21 edrin i thought i solved this problem
13:22 edrin it took me some time to find out how to do this
13:23 olas edrin: please tell me how it works
13:23 olas I have started to implement an extension point
13:23 olas so that plugins can contribute classes like the bc-rhino contributes "rhino" -> scriptingtools
13:24 olas I think an EP would be extremely nice
13:24 olas but if it is not needed than I will not continue working on it
13:24 edrin the only requirement is that a plugin puts all the classes that are scriptable to the "export" list
13:25 olas yes
13:25 olas but I'd like them to be able to register a namespace
13:25 olas so that I can write:
13:25 olas moby.callService(...)
13:25 olas and have the namespace moby registered by the plugin
13:25 olas did you see my wiki page about moby scripting?
13:26 edrin rhino does not have to add it to the requirements because i added this to the manifest.mf
13:26 edrin DynamicImport-Package: *
13:26 olas oh
13:26 olas hmm
13:26 olas will look into that then
13:26 edrin this is the trick... with this line rhino plugin can access all packages exported by othe plugins...
13:27 olas I see
13:27 olas sounds good
13:27 olas but registering other "ScriptingTools" is another addition
13:27 edrin it was a long way to find this
13:27 olas to simplify scripting
13:27 edrin yes, would be cool
13:27 olas :-)
13:27 olas http://wiki.bioclipse.net/index.p​hp?title=Bc_rhino#Sample_script_5
13:27 edrin the moby.getBlah() would be nice, indeed
13:28 edrin recently i talked to masak  because he has the need to pass parameters to a script
13:29 olas yes
13:29 edrin i think this is indeed important. i thought about this, too. this way you could "register" a script in bioclipse and then you could run this script "on a bioresource" in the resource navigator...
13:30 olas yes
13:30 olas we should solve this
13:30 olas I think masak is thinking about it
13:30 edrin Requires you to add dependencies in net.bioclipse.rhino to net.bioclipse.biomoby.ui and net.bioclipse.biojava.  <- i think this is not true...
13:30 olas I hope not
13:30 edrin or did you have to do this?
13:30 olas yes, I had to
13:30 olas (I think)
13:31 olas will try again without
13:32 edrin i have more time for coding now again
13:32 edrin what are your current plans?
13:33 olas to try to design bioclipse2
13:34 olas would be extremely happy if you would like to join us
13:34 olas we want to focus on use-cases
13:34 edrin i would like to
13:34 edrin join
13:34 olas great :-)
13:34 edrin what exactly do you mean with use-cases?
13:34 olas well, ask people what problems they have and then solve them in Bioclipse
13:35 olas start with samll things and expand
13:35 olas AND
13:35 olas rewrite the core
13:35 olas use Projects
13:35 olas and be more eclipse-like
13:35 olas remove BioResource
13:35 olas use Eclipse Resources
13:35 edrin ah good
13:35 olas Make plugins available for Eclipse
13:35 olas and make an RCP with selected plugins
13:36 olas so move towards an Eclipse Life Science Platform :-)
13:36 edrin yes, very good
13:36 olas have to run away for 2-3 hours now
13:36 olas Will hopefully be back later
13:36 olas bye!
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13:36 edrin maybe a product will get out of this
13:36 edrin ok cu
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