Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2007-11-29

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09:44 steinbeck moin
09:44 masak moin
09:46 masak there's a tension between wanting to keep the bc2 core small (for maintainability purposes) and wanting some functionality to be common to all of bc2
09:46 jonalv there is? interesting I haven't thought about it like that
09:46 masak I've been thinking a bit about this since I discussed it last week with edrin++ and egonw++
09:47 masak jonalv: yes, I'm reading an email thread about p6 core right now
09:47 masak they\ve been burned by putting too much in p5 core
09:47 masak and that eventually became a maintenance burden
09:47 masak they mention Ant as another example of this
09:48 masak which brings me to the conclusion that core should be minimal
09:48 egonw jonalv: will try to read your email today
09:48 egonw p6, p5 ??
09:48 egonw what's that?
09:48 masak egonw: perl 6 and 5
09:48 egonw ah...
09:48 masak sorry, too used to those abbreviations myself :)
09:48 egonw umm... it's not about a small or a large core...
09:49 egonw it's about modularization
09:49 masak yes, sure
09:49 masak but even so, there's "too small" and "too large"
09:49 jonalv what where you talking about back then?
09:49 masak scripting and core
09:49 masak since then I've at least moved out the UI consoles from core
09:49 masak which was probably a good move
09:49 jonalv hm I am working with that as well (yes I rememebered that they are two words)
09:50 masak jonalv++ # for working with that
09:50 masak jonalv++ # for remembering that they are two words
09:50 jonalv Has anyone happened to see my latest sugestion?
09:52 * jonalv guesses that the silence says it all... :)
09:52 egonw latest sugestion? as in your email?
09:52 jonalv yes! :)
09:53 egonw [2007-11-29 10:50:57] <egonw> jonalv: will try to read your email today
09:53 jonalv and on the wiki
09:53 egonw guess you did not see my reply :)
09:53 jonalv ah lol
09:53 * jonalv is blind...
09:54 jonalv The first thing you get blind on is your eyes... (or so they say...)
09:55 masak here's a good quote from the p6 discussion: 'The criterion for including a module in the core is "Is this necessary to get and install other modules?" not "Why not include this module?"'
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10:00 olas hi all
10:00 masak hi olas :)
10:00 jonalv hi
10:01 jonalv how's france?
10:01 masak exactly
10:01 * olas is in Soissons, France
10:01 masak ah, Soissons
10:01 olas pretty cold here as well
10:01 masak :/
10:01 olas http://www.tropheesdulibre.org/
10:01 EskilA hi
10:01 olas They will have a live streaming from the ceremony I think
10:02 masak woot
10:03 EskilA cool
10:03 olas the link is not on the website yet
10:03 olas but will be
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10:04 EskilA when is the ceremony?
10:04 * olas will only have a 3 mins presentation
10:04 olas hmm
10:05 egonw the extended is tomorrow, not?
10:05 egonw the 30 minute one
10:05 olas no
10:05 egonw :(
10:05 egonw that sucks
10:05 olas the 30 mins is just in front of the jury
10:05 olas closed doors
10:06 olas and since we already got awarded the special prize, I get no 30 mins
10:06 egonw that sucks big time
10:06 olas too bad
10:06 olas hard to really say anything in 3 mins
10:06 olas and to people who have no experience whatsoever in life science
10:06 olas so will be VERY brief
10:06 egonw olas: give a URL with the full 30 minute presentation :)
10:07 egonw really....
10:07 olas well, there didn't seem to be a reason to finish it
10:07 egonw whatever you do, give the URL too
10:07 egonw ah, true
10:07 olas sure
10:07 egonw olas: give a URL with the full 20 minute presentation :)
10:07 olas :-)
10:07 olas I hate ptting up unfinished stuff
10:07 olas will look at it thoough
10:07 egonw anyway...
10:07 egonw how is it?
10:08 egonw was the trip well organized?
10:08 olas sure
10:08 olas the hotel was a little cheap though...
10:08 olas but whatever, you just need a bed
10:08 olas it wasa long trip though
10:08 egonw yeah?
10:08 egonw where did youfly in?
10:08 egonw de gaulle?
10:08 olas yes
10:09 olas staretd at 12 and landed in the hotel at 21
10:09 olas a lot of waiting...
10:09 egonw yeah, that's long
10:09 olas but it's a rather big event
10:09 olas a lot of high tech in a very old chateau
10:09 egonw sounds really nice...
10:09 olas and quite some famous persons
10:10 EskilA seems like the setting for a Bond movie
10:10 egonw a shame that I could not go myself :(
10:10 olas yea
10:10 olas you'd have liked it even more
10:10 egonw (or together)
10:10 olas yes
10:10 olas even better
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10:10 olas Lot's of linux people here
10:10 olas The president of the Free Software Foundation is chair of the jury
10:11 olas some debian people in the jury
10:11 olas hell, I don't know
10:11 olas but the jury is 3 times as many as the competitors
10:11 egonw :)
10:11 jonalv lol
10:11 masak olas: who's president? RMS?
10:11 olas don't know
10:11 masak does he have a really big beard?
10:11 olas Root Mean Square?
10:11 olas no
10:12 masak Richard M Stallman
10:12 masak then it's not him...
10:12 olas well, maybe I got that wrong
10:12 olas anyway
10:12 masak olas: well, someone else might be president of the FSF
10:12 masak I don't really know
10:12 jonalv google it
10:12 olas http://www.tropheesdulibre.​org/-Le-jury-.html?lang=en
10:13 olas Free Software Foundation Europe (
10:13 masak http://www.fsf.org/about/leadership.html
10:13 masak RMS is president over FSF worldwide, it seems
10:13 olas Root Mean Square is very common, I know
10:14 olas Anyway, I'm sitting in some sort of coridor, and I guess I'll be here for a while...
10:14 olas will do my 3 mins slides now
10:14 olas but will be around
10:14 egonw thumbs up
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10:14 masak good luck w/ the slides
10:14 egonw hi yangming
10:14 olas sure :-)
10:15 masak ni hao, yangming. ni shi zhongguo de ren?
10:16 yangming bu shi
10:16 egonw masak: I'm impressed
10:16 masak :)
10:16 egonw I can follow the first three words...
10:17 masak yangming: ni shi naguo ren?
10:17 yangming ma lai xi ya ren
10:17 masak cool
10:17 yangming ni ne?
10:17 masak Malaysia
10:17 masak yangming: ruidian ren
10:18 yangming masak, ni hao.
10:18 olas masak, ni ne xi hao lai?
10:19 masak olas: bu shi
10:19 * olas is good at cut and paste
10:19 masak hehe
10:19 masak what you said did not make sense, though
10:19 olas :-(
10:19 olas was it good for a first try?
10:19 masak I'd translate it as "what about you west good come?"
10:20 masak but there are many alternatives
10:21 EskilA I'd translate it as 'I am buter, flying through space'
10:21 jonalv 请使用英语这里
10:21 EskilA then again,I don't speak chinese
10:21 masak yangming: ni yongle bioclipse ma?
10:22 * jonalv found babelfish... :)
10:22 yangming yongle
10:22 egonw OK, I feel left out... might we just switch back to English now?
10:22 masak I can summarise for everyone
10:22 jonalv that's what I said to...
10:22 masak yangming is from Malaysia
10:22 masak and has used Bioclipse
10:22 egonw I really do want to learn Chinese... (the common one... not the dialects)
10:23 masak that's as far as we got with my limited Chinese
10:23 egonw but I already have so much on my todo list....
10:23 masak egonw: Mandarin. do that
10:23 masak it's an eye-opening language
10:23 masak a bit like Haskell :)
10:23 olas so is coffee
10:23 egonw yeah, I have that too every time I go buy chinese
10:24 masak yangming: ni you mei you wenti?
10:24 yangming mei you wenti
10:24 masak hao
10:24 yangming ing wen ye ke yi
10:24 masak :)
10:25 masak thought so
10:25 masak yangming says that e has no questions and furthermore that e is capable of speaking English :)
10:25 EskilA In the charting plugin, is it important to be able to plot different dataseries in the same plot?
10:26 egonw could be useful
10:26 masak EskilA: is it much more difficult?
10:26 EskilA It would mean a lot of redesign I suppose
10:27 masak hm
10:27 masak might be it's not worth it if no-one needs it
10:27 masak you should demo it to a few users and ask them :)
10:28 EskilA Good point. The reason I ask is because I'm thinking about how to design the selection of points
10:29 masak ok
10:29 masak what are your alternatives?
10:30 olas EskilA: good question
10:30 olas please ask Egon
10:30 olas and also Martin, he'll be back next week on monday
10:31 EskilA Well, if i disregard the posibility of several datasets it would be easier to map points to columns, because I'd know what cell is x and which is y immediately
10:31 EskilA ok
10:31 olas do the simple thing first
10:31 EskilA ok
10:31 olas then let's extend it later if necessary
10:31 masak simplethingfirst++
10:31 EskilA right, I think that's just good programming practice
10:32 EskilA not designing for things that 'might' happen
10:32 masak yes
10:32 masak http://c2.com/xp/YouArentGonnaNeedIt.html
10:39 DrGTO_ hello everyone. May I ask a programming question concerning bioclipse or CDK? I was thinking, this might be the shortest way to get a qualified answer to my question ;)
10:40 masak DrGTO_: start by asking it
10:40 DrGTO_ thanks
10:41 DrGTO_ I am looking for a method to check wether a given string might contain a molecular formula or not
10:41 DrGTO_ i am quite sure, that something like this must exists already
10:41 masak sounds like an egonw question
10:41 DrGTO_ dunno where to start looking though ...
10:41 olas do you mena like text mining?
10:41 olas mining text for molecular formulas?
10:41 DrGTO_ not that complicated
10:42 egonw DrGTO_: use a regular expression
10:42 DrGTO_ I will receive a query string and I want to specify if I have to look up the normal index or the molecular formula index
10:42 egonw define index...
10:42 egonw PubChem?
10:43 DrGTO_ a different database
10:43 DrGTO_ chem.de search interface, actually
10:44 DrGTO_ hmm, and regular expression sounds reasonable
10:44 egonw will require some coding...
10:44 egonw e.g. using JavaScript..
10:44 egonw or as plugin
10:44 DrGTO_ so there is nothing that can be reused
10:44 egonw sure
10:44 DrGTO_ has to be JAVA I think
10:45 egonw that would be easiest...
10:45 DrGTO_ :)
10:45 masak DrGTO_: make sure to use the new methods in String in Java 5.0
10:45 egonw though, JavaScript is possible too
10:45 masak s.matches(), mainly
10:45 masak hm, s.matches(String regex)
10:45 egonw DrGTO_: mom...
10:46 egonw DrGTO_: http://bioclipse.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/b​ioclipse/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.pubchem/
10:46 egonw that's a template you can use
10:46 egonw does a look up in PubChem
10:46 DrGTO_ ic
10:47 DrGTO_ ah damn, I am still too slow with learning JAVA :)
10:48 masak DrGTO_: feel free to ask about that too, then :)
10:49 DrGTO_ oh, that would take a while
10:50 masak that's ok. we'll be here all day
10:50 DrGTO_ I already did quite some work, but when looking on chemistry java code (like bioclipse, jchempaint or jspecView) for the first time .. its like BOAH! back to start
10:50 egonw what programming language did you use before?
10:50 masak DrGTO_: sounds pretty normal. new programming task, new coding conventions... of course there's bound to be some confusion
10:51 DrGTO_ perl. I am more the data grabber and reorganiser and redisplayer :)
10:51 egonw ah :)
10:51 DrGTO_ which is great with all the new chemistry web databases and services
10:51 egonw DrGTO_: have a loot at BeanShell
10:51 egonw that's Java scripting...
10:51 egonw using the actual Java language (unlike JavaScript)
10:52 egonw should feel more comfortable than compiling Java source code
10:52 egonw loot=look
10:52 DrGTO_ lol
10:52 DrGTO_ JAVA for Dummies ?
10:53 masak DrGTO_: no, just un-compiled Java
10:53 egonw go to your nearest second hand book shop
10:53 egonw yeah, sort of un-compiled Java...
10:53 egonw there is a command line too, which gives you immediate feedback on wrong code...
10:53 egonw though Eclipse offers that too...
10:53 DrGTO_ yeah, I am using eclipse for perl too
10:54 DrGTO_ and I will climb the java mountain too
10:54 DrGTO_ one day!
10:55 DrGTO_ maybe I should start with a smaller project ..
10:57 masak there is some learning curve with Java, of course
10:57 masak but OTOH, the only way to become proficient is to do things in it :)
10:58 masak only you can decide if a project is small enough
10:58 egonw DrGTO_: yeah, starting with a small cmd line util to look up info from chem.de would be a good start
10:59 egonw that would be easy to integrate later
11:01 DrGTO_ oh, thats not what I am trying :)
11:02 DrGTO_ actually I am trying to tell my programmer buddy (who has no idea from chemistry) how to work with a query FROM chem.de
11:02 DrGTO_ we are setting up a webservice to handle query for some databases
11:03 DrGTO_ looks easy until we came up how to handle the molecular formula thingie
11:03 egonw can you be more specific about that bit?
11:03 egonw where does the regexp come in?
11:03 egonw when doing a look up?
11:05 DrGTO_ well, we will have a webservice which can be connected from chem.de, we get a query which we will have to analyse to some extend and then forward it to several databases
11:05 DrGTO_ and the analysing will include: is the query a  molecular formula or not
11:06 DrGTO_ understandable?
11:06 masak another developer question: I've come to the point where I'm screening KeyEvents to make sure they don't destroy parts of my Text widget that I want to keep readable. How do I detect Copy/Cut/Paste key events in a platform independant way?
11:06 masak s/readable/non-writable/
11:06 olas masak: Eclipse has some method for that
11:07 olas will have to look it up
11:07 olas (I think it's in my book)
11:07 masak olas: great
11:07 masak I've already found VeryfyEvent
11:07 masak but I'm not sure about the keycode screening itself
11:08 * jonalv and masak is going on lunch real soon now. right masak?
11:08 masak yes
11:08 olas masak: how about this:
11:08 olas Create your CopyAction
11:08 masak jonalv: sauna's ready
11:08 olas and hook it into eclipse with:
11:08 jonalv masak, great :)
11:09 masak jonalv: I picked up fresh birch twigs this morning
11:09 jonalv masak, yes it was about time... :)
11:09 olas getViewSite().getActionBars().setGlobalAct​ionHandler(IWorkbenchAcionConstants.COPY, copyAction);
11:09 masak jonalv: I know, the old ones were no good
11:09 masak olas: sounds good
11:09 masak will look into that
11:10 * jonalv @lunch
11:16 DrGTO_ @lunch
11:18 egonw http://www.beanshell.org/manual/quickstart.h​tml#Calling_BeanShell_From_Your_Application
11:19 egonw mmm... integrating BeanShell into BC2 looks simple
11:23 olas masak: haven't you done hat already?
11:24 * egonw feels like looking at Chinese... or drinking coffee :)
12:12 * jonalv is back
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13:03 jonalv does anyone know if org/apache/commons/logging/LogFactory is in net.bioclipse.logging? (in bc2)
13:04 jonalv because I can't get it to work...
13:09 jonalv ping
13:44 jonalv seems as tough the commit bot has gone for the day... :(
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14:00 egonw hi olas
14:00 olas hi again
14:00 egonw so... ?
14:00 olas so... nothing much
14:00 jonalv hi olas things are happening here
14:00 olas is masak eating toffifees?
14:00 olas or is BMC on fire?
14:01 olas jonalv: I did se your HUGE COMMIT
14:01 jonalv I gor a service object instantiated by Spring to be usable in js
14:01 olas cool!
14:01 jonalv yep it's nice
14:01 * egonw still has not clue what Spring really is...
14:01 olas is it complex?
14:01 * olas neither
14:01 egonw and what is adds on top os OSGi
14:01 olas it sounds scary
14:02 olas spring means run in Swedish
14:02 jonalv so now that I have shown it is doable I'm going back to studying spring aop and spring osgi
14:02 olas so "Spring iväg" is "Run away"
14:02 olas but on the other hand, run is fun
14:02 olas I like the idea of Spring
14:02 olas I just hope it doesn't make things too complex
14:03 olas it sure has some very nice features
14:03 olas like AOP
14:03 olas and transaction management
14:03 olas logging
14:03 olas authoring
14:03 olas auditing
14:03 olas the list could be made long
14:03 jonalv what the commit did was in short to implement the extension point in core that I also defined for adding scripting objects and do that using a factory and give it the object from spring using the factory
14:03 olas I see
14:04 jonalv hm I need to learn to shorten my sentences..
14:04 olas so the Spring-DM doesn't work yet?
14:04 jonalv no and I am not doing any aop either
14:04 jonalv I only use Spring to instantiate the object yet
14:04 jonalv but that works
14:05 jonalv the godd thing with this solution is that you don't have to use Spring to get your service objects into the scripting language
14:05 olas sounds like a good start!
14:05 olas that is indeed good
14:05 olas I think we should have Spring as optional
14:05 olas in fact, I thnk we have to
14:05 olas and should
14:05 jonalv yes loosely coupled is the spirit
14:06 jonalv that's what this track will lead to
14:06 jonalv I must admit that I am doing a few ugly things though
14:06 olas haha
14:06 jonalv such as not only exporting the mangar interface but also the actual class
14:07 jonalv I realilsed that I more or less had to do that because Spring (the classes which do the instantiating) is not in he same plugin and they must be bale to see the class in order to instantiate it
14:07 jonalv (There must be a bettter way to do this buit I haven't figured it out yet)
14:08 jonalv So my Spring plugin currently uses the nice DynamicImport that edrin++ used for scripting
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14:24 olas http://www.tropheesdulibre.org/+Visit-b​roadcast-of-the-ceremony+.html?lang=en
14:25 olas ceremony starts at 18.30, my talk is prel. at 17.23
14:26 EskilA is frenchie time the same as swedish?
14:38 olas yup
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14:57 * jonalv lost connection. I didn't miss anything important did I?
15:01 egonw yeah... olas was desparately looking for you in those 12 seconds you were offline
15:02 jonalv wow what where the odds... :)
15:08 * egonw is going home
15:08 egonw bye
15:08 jonalv bye
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18:03 jonalv hi edrin
18:03 masak hi edrin
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18:45 egonw_ did anyone here from Ola?
18:45 egonw_ oh, that was a cool patch!
18:46 masak :)
18:46 masak egonw_: he's bound to be up on stage any minute now
18:46 egonw_ what's the live feed again?
18:46 masak do you have the feed?
18:46 jonalv <http://www.e-facto.com/_cetril>/
18:46 egonw_ :)
18:46 egonw_ ok, thanx...
18:46 egonw_ watching it now
18:47 egonw_ is it clear yet what he 'won' ?
18:47 jonalv no definitly not :)
18:48 edrin hi egonw, hi masak
18:48 egonw_ hi edrin
18:49 masak edrin: things are looking better and better with js in bc2
18:49 edrin hi jonalv
18:49 edrin cool
18:49 jonalv hi edrin  :)
18:49 EskilA Is the CIA bot is not working or what?
18:49 edrin if you give me instructions how to write plugins for bioclipse 2 i will just port the rhino plugin to it
18:49 EskilA err, ignore weird grammar, I'm tired :p
18:50 masak edrin: we hope to establish a js/R-connection Real Soon Now
18:50 masak EskilA: don't think so
18:50 masak and with grammar yours there nothing wrong is
18:50 jonalv edrin: I am not sure we have reached a point where we can talk about the way to write plugins for bioclipse 2 yrt...
18:50 edrin what is a js/R-connection
18:50 EskilA thank you I am
18:50 masak edrin: R is a statistical program
18:50 jonalv oh hello mister Thank you
18:51 masak and js is short for Javascript
18:51 edrin olas participates the meeting though we did not win ?
18:51 masak jonalv: this question goes out to all the parmesan cheese lovers out there
18:51 masak edrin: we won... something
18:51 masak not sure what
18:52 EskilA a years supply of Roquefort
18:52 masak \o/
18:52 edrin won something?
18:52 masak well, um, maybe
18:53 masak we'll see
18:53 jonalv edrin: I have managed to get a service object into the javascript session now. It seems to work. Feel free to check my code if you want
18:53 masak edrin: are you following along on the live feed?
18:53 edrin i don't speek french, sorry
18:53 masak edrin: neither does olas
18:53 * jonalv neither
18:53 EskilA did your stream break up just now?
18:54 masak yes :(
18:54 jonalv yep but I am back now
18:54 edrin yup
18:54 masak server must be a bit weak :)
18:54 masak here he comes...
18:54 masak really exciting
18:54 jonalv oki server stay up now...
18:54 masak a SPECIAL price
18:55 masak ONE project
18:55 masak very very CENTRAL
18:55 masak something that TOUCHES US
18:55 masak oh, come on!
18:55 jonalv :)
18:56 egonw_ he's online now?
18:56 egonw_ don't see him yet...
18:56 masak yay!
18:56 egonw_ or did he gain some weight ? :)
18:56 masak you ROCK
18:56 masak Bioclipse REALLY ROCKS
18:57 egonw_ ah, there he is...
18:57 egonw_ you have sound?
18:57 masak yes!
18:57 egonw_ I dont :(
18:57 masak he just thanked all 22 developers who have been involved so far
18:57 * masak toasts to Bioclipse
18:57 * EskilA joins masak
18:57 edrin hey, we are standard
18:57 egonw_ so, what was the award?
18:58 jonalv yea what was the award except "something really special"?
18:58 egonw_ no idea yet :)
18:58 egonw_ that's all I know too...
18:58 egonw_ I tried to trick the organization into letting me know...
18:58 egonw_ that's it?
18:58 masak yes
18:58 egonw_ he's gone again...
18:58 jonalv yea
18:59 EskilA golden mirrored C FTW
18:59 masak very short olas appearance
18:59 edrin but at least that's really good - they describe us a as a standard that will be basis for bioinformatics/chemoinf. development
18:59 jonalv We have been waiting 2 hours for that... :)
18:59 masak EskilA: question is: W what?
18:59 masak edrin: truly
18:59 egonw_ edrin: yeah, total crap...
18:59 EskilA yeah
18:59 egonw_ just give use the 3k euro :(
19:00 EskilA hehe
19:00 masak egonw_: those were not prize money
19:00 masak those were the maximum travel account
19:00 masak ...I think
19:00 egonw_ http://www.tropheesdulibre.or​g/-Recompenses-.html?lang=en
19:00 egonw_ no...
19:00 egonw_ The sum of 3,000 euros to contribute to funding project
19:00 masak oh, cool
19:01 EskilA ah ok
19:01 masak in that case, I have no complaints :)
19:01 edrin hey, to become a standard just means we need to get many awards to be
19:01 * jonalv is signing off
19:01 edrin jonalv
19:01 EskilA bye jpnalv
19:02 edrin did you get my last mail?
19:02 jonalv edrin, yes but I am not sure I understand
19:03 jonalv but I gopt something working today. Feel free to check it out
19:03 edrin yes, me too
19:03 egonw_ yeah, but the special prize is different
19:03 egonw_ != 3k euro :(
19:03 jonalv as in your not sure you undersatnd?
19:03 masak dang.
19:03 edrin jonalv: it's very hard to check something out withou knowing what to check out.
19:04 jonalv right, good poinmt :)
19:04 edrin i am currently very confused about bc2 and its svn tree
19:04 masak edrin: that's because it is in constant flux
19:04 masak yesterday core got a new dependency, which was most likely a bad idea
19:05 jonalv so it would be biojava and core and what ever else you currently need to resolve dependencies
19:05 jonalv (I think R has sneaked in a must-hava plugin but that will soon not be the case any longer...)
19:05 masak ack
19:05 masak it's just a temporary thing
19:06 EskilA Good evening everyone
19:06 jonalv so I'll try again and leave now...
19:06 masak EskilA: see you tomorrow
19:07 masak ...for some definition of "see"
19:07 jonalv bye
19:07 masak bye
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21:39 * egonw_ is copying 17M molecules into a MySQL database...
21:39 egonw_ any chance I can browse them with BC?
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21:56 edrin egonw: and did it work?
22:05 edrin g8

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