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steinbeck |
moin |
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masak |
moin |
| 09:46 |
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masak |
there's a tension between wanting to keep the bc2 core small (for maintainability purposes) and wanting some functionality to be common to all of bc2 |
| 09:46 |
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jonalv |
there is? interesting I haven't thought about it like that |
| 09:46 |
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masak |
I've been thinking a bit about this since I discussed it last week with edrin++ and egonw++ |
| 09:47 |
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masak |
jonalv: yes, I'm reading an email thread about p6 core right now |
| 09:47 |
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masak |
they\ve been burned by putting too much in p5 core |
| 09:47 |
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masak |
and that eventually became a maintenance burden |
| 09:47 |
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masak |
they mention Ant as another example of this |
| 09:48 |
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masak |
which brings me to the conclusion that core should be minimal |
| 09:48 |
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egonw |
jonalv: will try to read your email today |
| 09:48 |
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egonw |
p6, p5 ?? |
| 09:48 |
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egonw |
what's that? |
| 09:48 |
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masak |
egonw: perl 6 and 5 |
| 09:48 |
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egonw |
ah... |
| 09:48 |
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masak |
sorry, too used to those abbreviations myself :) |
| 09:48 |
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egonw |
umm... it's not about a small or a large core... |
| 09:49 |
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egonw |
it's about modularization |
| 09:49 |
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masak |
yes, sure |
| 09:49 |
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masak |
but even so, there's "too small" and "too large" |
| 09:49 |
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jonalv |
what where you talking about back then? |
| 09:49 |
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masak |
scripting and core |
| 09:49 |
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masak |
since then I've at least moved out the UI consoles from core |
| 09:49 |
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masak |
which was probably a good move |
| 09:49 |
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jonalv |
hm I am working with that as well (yes I rememebered that they are two words) |
| 09:50 |
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masak |
jonalv++ # for working with that |
| 09:50 |
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masak |
jonalv++ # for remembering that they are two words |
| 09:50 |
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jonalv |
Has anyone happened to see my latest sugestion? |
| 09:52 |
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* jonalv |
guesses that the silence says it all... :) |
| 09:52 |
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egonw |
latest sugestion? as in your email? |
| 09:52 |
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jonalv |
yes! :) |
| 09:53 |
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egonw |
[2007-11-29 10:50:57] <egonw> jonalv: will try to read your email today |
| 09:53 |
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jonalv |
and on the wiki |
| 09:53 |
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egonw |
guess you did not see my reply :) |
| 09:53 |
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jonalv |
ah lol |
| 09:53 |
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* jonalv |
is blind... |
| 09:54 |
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jonalv |
The first thing you get blind on is your eyes... (or so they say...) |
| 09:55 |
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masak |
here's a good quote from the p6 discussion: 'The criterion for including a module in the core is "Is this necessary to get and install other modules?" not "Why not include this module?"' |
| 10:00 |
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olas joined #bioclipse |
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olas |
hi all |
| 10:00 |
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masak |
hi olas :) |
| 10:00 |
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jonalv |
hi |
| 10:01 |
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jonalv |
how's france? |
| 10:01 |
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masak |
exactly |
| 10:01 |
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* olas |
is in Soissons, France |
| 10:01 |
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masak |
ah, Soissons |
| 10:01 |
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olas |
pretty cold here as well |
| 10:01 |
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masak |
:/ |
| 10:01 |
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olas |
http://www.tropheesdulibre.org/ |
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EskilA |
hi |
| 10:01 |
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olas |
They will have a live streaming from the ceremony I think |
| 10:02 |
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masak |
woot |
| 10:03 |
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EskilA |
cool |
| 10:03 |
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olas |
the link is not on the website yet |
| 10:03 |
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olas |
but will be |
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| 10:04 |
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EskilA |
when is the ceremony? |
| 10:04 |
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* olas |
will only have a 3 mins presentation |
| 10:04 |
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olas |
hmm |
| 10:05 |
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egonw |
the extended is tomorrow, not? |
| 10:05 |
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egonw |
the 30 minute one |
| 10:05 |
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olas |
no |
| 10:05 |
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egonw |
:( |
| 10:05 |
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egonw |
that sucks |
| 10:05 |
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olas |
the 30 mins is just in front of the jury |
| 10:05 |
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olas |
closed doors |
| 10:06 |
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olas |
and since we already got awarded the special prize, I get no 30 mins |
| 10:06 |
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egonw |
that sucks big time |
| 10:06 |
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olas |
too bad |
| 10:06 |
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olas |
hard to really say anything in 3 mins |
| 10:06 |
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olas |
and to people who have no experience whatsoever in life science |
| 10:06 |
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olas |
so will be VERY brief |
| 10:06 |
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egonw |
olas: give a URL with the full 30 minute presentation :) |
| 10:07 |
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egonw |
really.... |
| 10:07 |
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olas |
well, there didn't seem to be a reason to finish it |
| 10:07 |
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egonw |
whatever you do, give the URL too |
| 10:07 |
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egonw |
ah, true |
| 10:07 |
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olas |
sure |
| 10:07 |
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egonw |
olas: give a URL with the full 20 minute presentation :) |
| 10:07 |
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olas |
:-) |
| 10:07 |
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olas |
I hate ptting up unfinished stuff |
| 10:07 |
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olas |
will look at it thoough |
| 10:07 |
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egonw |
anyway... |
| 10:07 |
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egonw |
how is it? |
| 10:08 |
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egonw |
was the trip well organized? |
| 10:08 |
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olas |
sure |
| 10:08 |
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olas |
the hotel was a little cheap though... |
| 10:08 |
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olas |
but whatever, you just need a bed |
| 10:08 |
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olas |
it wasa long trip though |
| 10:08 |
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egonw |
yeah? |
| 10:08 |
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egonw |
where did youfly in? |
| 10:08 |
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egonw |
de gaulle? |
| 10:08 |
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olas |
yes |
| 10:09 |
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olas |
staretd at 12 and landed in the hotel at 21 |
| 10:09 |
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olas |
a lot of waiting... |
| 10:09 |
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egonw |
yeah, that's long |
| 10:09 |
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olas |
but it's a rather big event |
| 10:09 |
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olas |
a lot of high tech in a very old chateau |
| 10:09 |
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egonw |
sounds really nice... |
| 10:09 |
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olas |
and quite some famous persons |
| 10:10 |
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EskilA |
seems like the setting for a Bond movie |
| 10:10 |
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egonw |
a shame that I could not go myself :( |
| 10:10 |
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olas |
yea |
| 10:10 |
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olas |
you'd have liked it even more |
| 10:10 |
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egonw |
(or together) |
| 10:10 |
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olas |
yes |
| 10:10 |
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olas |
even better |
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| 10:10 |
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olas |
Lot's of linux people here |
| 10:10 |
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olas |
The president of the Free Software Foundation is chair of the jury |
| 10:11 |
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olas |
some debian people in the jury |
| 10:11 |
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olas |
hell, I don't know |
| 10:11 |
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olas |
but the jury is 3 times as many as the competitors |
| 10:11 |
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egonw |
:) |
| 10:11 |
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jonalv |
lol |
| 10:11 |
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masak |
olas: who's president? RMS? |
| 10:11 |
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olas |
don't know |
| 10:11 |
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masak |
does he have a really big beard? |
| 10:11 |
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olas |
Root Mean Square? |
| 10:11 |
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olas |
no |
| 10:12 |
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masak |
Richard M Stallman |
| 10:12 |
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masak |
then it's not him... |
| 10:12 |
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olas |
well, maybe I got that wrong |
| 10:12 |
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olas |
anyway |
| 10:12 |
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masak |
olas: well, someone else might be president of the FSF |
| 10:12 |
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masak |
I don't really know |
| 10:12 |
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jonalv |
google it |
| 10:12 |
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olas |
http://www.tropheesdulibre.org[…]ury-.html?lang=en |
| 10:13 |
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olas |
Free Software Foundation Europe ( |
| 10:13 |
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masak |
http://www.fsf.org/about/leadership.html |
| 10:13 |
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masak |
RMS is president over FSF worldwide, it seems |
| 10:13 |
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olas |
Root Mean Square is very common, I know |
| 10:14 |
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olas |
Anyway, I'm sitting in some sort of coridor, and I guess I'll be here for a while... |
| 10:14 |
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olas |
will do my 3 mins slides now |
| 10:14 |
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olas |
but will be around |
| 10:14 |
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egonw |
thumbs up |
| 10:14 |
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| 10:14 |
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masak |
good luck w/ the slides |
| 10:14 |
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egonw |
hi yangming |
| 10:14 |
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olas |
sure :-) |
| 10:15 |
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masak |
ni hao, yangming. ni shi zhongguo de ren? |
| 10:16 |
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yangming |
bu shi |
| 10:16 |
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egonw |
masak: I'm impressed |
| 10:16 |
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masak |
:) |
| 10:16 |
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egonw |
I can follow the first three words... |
| 10:17 |
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masak |
yangming: ni shi naguo ren? |
| 10:17 |
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yangming |
ma lai xi ya ren |
| 10:17 |
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masak |
cool |
| 10:17 |
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yangming |
ni ne? |
| 10:17 |
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masak |
Malaysia |
| 10:17 |
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masak |
yangming: ruidian ren |
| 10:18 |
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yangming |
masak, ni hao. |
| 10:18 |
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olas |
masak, ni ne xi hao lai? |
| 10:19 |
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masak |
olas: bu shi |
| 10:19 |
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* olas |
is good at cut and paste |
| 10:19 |
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masak |
hehe |
| 10:19 |
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masak |
what you said did not make sense, though |
| 10:19 |
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olas |
:-( |
| 10:19 |
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olas |
was it good for a first try? |
| 10:19 |
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masak |
I'd translate it as "what about you west good come?" |
| 10:20 |
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masak |
but there are many alternatives |
| 10:21 |
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EskilA |
I'd translate it as 'I am buter, flying through space' |
| 10:21 |
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jonalv |
请使用英语这里 |
| 10:21 |
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EskilA |
then again,I don't speak chinese |
| 10:21 |
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masak |
yangming: ni yongle bioclipse ma? |
| 10:22 |
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* jonalv |
found babelfish... :) |
| 10:22 |
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yangming |
yongle |
| 10:22 |
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egonw |
OK, I feel left out... might we just switch back to English now? |
| 10:22 |
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masak |
I can summarise for everyone |
| 10:22 |
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jonalv |
that's what I said to... |
| 10:22 |
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masak |
yangming is from Malaysia |
| 10:22 |
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masak |
and has used Bioclipse |
| 10:22 |
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egonw |
I really do want to learn Chinese... (the common one... not the dialects) |
| 10:23 |
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masak |
that's as far as we got with my limited Chinese |
| 10:23 |
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egonw |
but I already have so much on my todo list.... |
| 10:23 |
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masak |
egonw: Mandarin. do that |
| 10:23 |
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masak |
it's an eye-opening language |
| 10:23 |
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masak |
a bit like Haskell :) |
| 10:23 |
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olas |
so is coffee |
| 10:23 |
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egonw |
yeah, I have that too every time I go buy chinese |
| 10:24 |
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masak |
yangming: ni you mei you wenti? |
| 10:24 |
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yangming |
mei you wenti |
| 10:24 |
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masak |
hao |
| 10:24 |
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yangming |
ing wen ye ke yi |
| 10:24 |
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masak |
:) |
| 10:25 |
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masak |
thought so |
| 10:25 |
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masak |
yangming says that e has no questions and furthermore that e is capable of speaking English :) |
| 10:25 |
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EskilA |
In the charting plugin, is it important to be able to plot different dataseries in the same plot? |
| 10:26 |
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egonw |
could be useful |
| 10:26 |
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masak |
EskilA: is it much more difficult? |
| 10:26 |
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EskilA |
It would mean a lot of redesign I suppose |
| 10:27 |
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masak |
hm |
| 10:27 |
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masak |
might be it's not worth it if no-one needs it |
| 10:27 |
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masak |
you should demo it to a few users and ask them :) |
| 10:28 |
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EskilA |
Good point. The reason I ask is because I'm thinking about how to design the selection of points |
| 10:29 |
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masak |
ok |
| 10:29 |
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masak |
what are your alternatives? |
| 10:30 |
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olas |
EskilA: good question |
| 10:30 |
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olas |
please ask Egon |
| 10:30 |
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olas |
and also Martin, he'll be back next week on monday |
| 10:31 |
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EskilA |
Well, if i disregard the posibility of several datasets it would be easier to map points to columns, because I'd know what cell is x and which is y immediately |
| 10:31 |
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EskilA |
ok |
| 10:31 |
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olas |
do the simple thing first |
| 10:31 |
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EskilA |
ok |
| 10:31 |
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olas |
then let's extend it later if necessary |
| 10:31 |
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masak |
simplethingfirst++ |
| 10:31 |
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EskilA |
right, I think that's just good programming practice |
| 10:32 |
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EskilA |
not designing for things that 'might' happen |
| 10:32 |
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masak |
yes |
| 10:32 |
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masak |
http://c2.com/xp/YouArentGonnaNeedIt.html |
| 10:39 |
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DrGTO_ |
hello everyone. May I ask a programming question concerning bioclipse or CDK? I was thinking, this might be the shortest way to get a qualified answer to my question ;) |
| 10:40 |
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masak |
DrGTO_: start by asking it |
| 10:40 |
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DrGTO_ |
thanks |
| 10:41 |
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DrGTO_ |
I am looking for a method to check wether a given string might contain a molecular formula or not |
| 10:41 |
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DrGTO_ |
i am quite sure, that something like this must exists already |
| 10:41 |
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masak |
sounds like an egonw question |
| 10:41 |
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DrGTO_ |
dunno where to start looking though ... |
| 10:41 |
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olas |
do you mena like text mining? |
| 10:41 |
|
olas |
mining text for molecular formulas? |
| 10:41 |
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DrGTO_ |
not that complicated |
| 10:42 |
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egonw |
DrGTO_: use a regular expression |
| 10:42 |
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DrGTO_ |
I will receive a query string and I want to specify if I have to look up the normal index or the molecular formula index |
| 10:42 |
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egonw |
define index... |
| 10:42 |
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egonw |
PubChem? |
| 10:43 |
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DrGTO_ |
a different database |
| 10:43 |
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DrGTO_ |
chem.de search interface, actually |
| 10:44 |
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DrGTO_ |
hmm, and regular expression sounds reasonable |
| 10:44 |
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egonw |
will require some coding... |
| 10:44 |
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egonw |
e.g. using JavaScript.. |
| 10:44 |
|
egonw |
or as plugin |
| 10:44 |
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DrGTO_ |
so there is nothing that can be reused |
| 10:44 |
|
egonw |
sure |
| 10:44 |
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DrGTO_ |
has to be JAVA I think |
| 10:45 |
|
egonw |
that would be easiest... |
| 10:45 |
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DrGTO_ |
:) |
| 10:45 |
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masak |
DrGTO_: make sure to use the new methods in String in Java 5.0 |
| 10:45 |
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egonw |
though, JavaScript is possible too |
| 10:45 |
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masak |
s.matches(), mainly |
| 10:45 |
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masak |
hm, s.matches(String regex) |
| 10:45 |
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egonw |
DrGTO_: mom... |
| 10:46 |
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egonw |
DrGTO_: http://bioclipse.svn.sourcefor[…]ioclipse.pubchem/ |
| 10:46 |
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egonw |
that's a template you can use |
| 10:46 |
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egonw |
does a look up in PubChem |
| 10:46 |
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DrGTO_ |
ic |
| 10:47 |
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DrGTO_ |
ah damn, I am still too slow with learning JAVA :) |
| 10:48 |
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masak |
DrGTO_: feel free to ask about that too, then :) |
| 10:49 |
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DrGTO_ |
oh, that would take a while |
| 10:50 |
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masak |
that's ok. we'll be here all day |
| 10:50 |
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DrGTO_ |
I already did quite some work, but when looking on chemistry java code (like bioclipse, jchempaint or jspecView) for the first time .. its like BOAH! back to start |
| 10:50 |
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egonw |
what programming language did you use before? |
| 10:50 |
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masak |
DrGTO_: sounds pretty normal. new programming task, new coding conventions... of course there's bound to be some confusion |
| 10:51 |
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DrGTO_ |
perl. I am more the data grabber and reorganiser and redisplayer :) |
| 10:51 |
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egonw |
ah :) |
| 10:51 |
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DrGTO_ |
which is great with all the new chemistry web databases and services |
| 10:51 |
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egonw |
DrGTO_: have a loot at BeanShell |
| 10:51 |
|
egonw |
that's Java scripting... |
| 10:51 |
|
egonw |
using the actual Java language (unlike JavaScript) |
| 10:52 |
|
egonw |
should feel more comfortable than compiling Java source code |
| 10:52 |
|
egonw |
loot=look |
| 10:52 |
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DrGTO_ |
lol |
| 10:52 |
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DrGTO_ |
JAVA for Dummies ? |
| 10:53 |
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masak |
DrGTO_: no, just un-compiled Java |
| 10:53 |
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egonw |
go to your nearest second hand book shop |
| 10:53 |
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egonw |
yeah, sort of un-compiled Java... |
| 10:53 |
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egonw |
there is a command line too, which gives you immediate feedback on wrong code... |
| 10:53 |
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egonw |
though Eclipse offers that too... |
| 10:53 |
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DrGTO_ |
yeah, I am using eclipse for perl too |
| 10:54 |
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DrGTO_ |
and I will climb the java mountain too |
| 10:54 |
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DrGTO_ |
one day! |
| 10:55 |
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DrGTO_ |
maybe I should start with a smaller project .. |
| 10:57 |
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masak |
there is some learning curve with Java, of course |
| 10:57 |
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masak |
but OTOH, the only way to become proficient is to do things in it :) |
| 10:58 |
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masak |
only you can decide if a project is small enough |
| 10:58 |
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egonw |
DrGTO_: yeah, starting with a small cmd line util to look up info from chem.de would be a good start |
| 10:59 |
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egonw |
that would be easy to integrate later |
| 11:01 |
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DrGTO_ |
oh, thats not what I am trying :) |
| 11:02 |
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DrGTO_ |
actually I am trying to tell my programmer buddy (who has no idea from chemistry) how to work with a query FROM chem.de |
| 11:02 |
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DrGTO_ |
we are setting up a webservice to handle query for some databases |
| 11:03 |
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DrGTO_ |
looks easy until we came up how to handle the molecular formula thingie |
| 11:03 |
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egonw |
can you be more specific about that bit? |
| 11:03 |
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egonw |
where does the regexp come in? |
| 11:03 |
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egonw |
when doing a look up? |
| 11:05 |
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DrGTO_ |
well, we will have a webservice which can be connected from chem.de, we get a query which we will have to analyse to some extend and then forward it to several databases |
| 11:05 |
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DrGTO_ |
and the analysing will include: is the query a molecular formula or not |
| 11:06 |
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DrGTO_ |
understandable? |
| 11:06 |
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masak |
another developer question: I've come to the point where I'm screening KeyEvents to make sure they don't destroy parts of my Text widget that I want to keep readable. How do I detect Copy/Cut/Paste key events in a platform independant way? |
| 11:06 |
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masak |
s/readable/non-writable/ |
| 11:06 |
|
olas |
masak: Eclipse has some method for that |
| 11:07 |
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olas |
will have to look it up |
| 11:07 |
|
olas |
(I think it's in my book) |
| 11:07 |
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masak |
olas: great |
| 11:07 |
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masak |
I've already found VeryfyEvent |
| 11:07 |
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masak |
but I'm not sure about the keycode screening itself |
| 11:08 |
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* jonalv |
and masak is going on lunch real soon now. right masak? |
| 11:08 |
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masak |
yes |
| 11:08 |
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olas |
masak: how about this: |
| 11:08 |
|
olas |
Create your CopyAction |
| 11:08 |
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masak |
jonalv: sauna's ready |
| 11:08 |
|
olas |
and hook it into eclipse with: |
| 11:08 |
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jonalv |
masak, great :) |
| 11:09 |
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masak |
jonalv: I picked up fresh birch twigs this morning |
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jonalv |
masak, yes it was about time... :) |
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olas |
getViewSite().getActionBars().setGlobalActionHandler(IWorkbenchAcionConstants.COPY, copyAction); |
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masak |
jonalv: I know, the old ones were no good |
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masak |
olas: sounds good |
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masak |
will look into that |
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* jonalv |
@lunch |
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DrGTO_ |
@lunch |
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egonw |
http://www.beanshell.org/manua[…]_Your_Application |
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egonw |
mmm... integrating BeanShell into BC2 looks simple |
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olas |
masak: haven't you done hat already? |
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* egonw |
feels like looking at Chinese... or drinking coffee :) |
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* jonalv |
is back |
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jonalv |
does anyone know if org/apache/commons/logging/LogFactory is in net.bioclipse.logging? (in bc2) |
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jonalv |
because I can't get it to work... |
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jonalv |
ping |
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jonalv |
seems as tough the commit bot has gone for the day... :( |
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egonw |
hi olas |
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olas |
hi again |
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egonw |
so... ? |
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olas |
so... nothing much |
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jonalv |
hi olas things are happening here |
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olas |
is masak eating toffifees? |
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olas |
or is BMC on fire? |
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olas |
jonalv: I did se your HUGE COMMIT |
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jonalv |
I gor a service object instantiated by Spring to be usable in js |
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olas |
cool! |
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jonalv |
yep it's nice |
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* egonw |
still has not clue what Spring really is... |
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olas |
is it complex? |
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* olas |
neither |
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egonw |
and what is adds on top os OSGi |
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olas |
it sounds scary |
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olas |
spring means run in Swedish |
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jonalv |
so now that I have shown it is doable I'm going back to studying spring aop and spring osgi |
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olas |
so "Spring iväg" is "Run away" |
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olas |
but on the other hand, run is fun |
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olas |
I like the idea of Spring |
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olas |
I just hope it doesn't make things too complex |
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olas |
it sure has some very nice features |
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olas |
like AOP |
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olas |
and transaction management |
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olas |
logging |
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olas |
authoring |
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olas |
auditing |
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olas |
the list could be made long |
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jonalv |
what the commit did was in short to implement the extension point in core that I also defined for adding scripting objects and do that using a factory and give it the object from spring using the factory |
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olas |
I see |
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jonalv |
hm I need to learn to shorten my sentences.. |
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olas |
so the Spring-DM doesn't work yet? |
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jonalv |
no and I am not doing any aop either |
| 14:04 |
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jonalv |
I only use Spring to instantiate the object yet |
| 14:04 |
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jonalv |
but that works |
| 14:05 |
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jonalv |
the godd thing with this solution is that you don't have to use Spring to get your service objects into the scripting language |
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olas |
sounds like a good start! |
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olas |
that is indeed good |
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olas |
I think we should have Spring as optional |
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olas |
in fact, I thnk we have to |
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olas |
and should |
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jonalv |
yes loosely coupled is the spirit |
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jonalv |
that's what this track will lead to |
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jonalv |
I must admit that I am doing a few ugly things though |
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olas |
haha |
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jonalv |
such as not only exporting the mangar interface but also the actual class |
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jonalv |
I realilsed that I more or less had to do that because Spring (the classes which do the instantiating) is not in he same plugin and they must be bale to see the class in order to instantiate it |
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jonalv |
(There must be a bettter way to do this buit I haven't figured it out yet) |
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jonalv |
So my Spring plugin currently uses the nice DynamicImport that edrin++ used for scripting |
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olas |
http://www.tropheesdulibre.org[…]ony+.html?lang=en |
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olas |
ceremony starts at 18.30, my talk is prel. at 17.23 |
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EskilA |
is frenchie time the same as swedish? |
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olas |
yup |
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* jonalv |
lost connection. I didn't miss anything important did I? |
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egonw |
yeah... olas was desparately looking for you in those 12 seconds you were offline |
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jonalv |
wow what where the odds... :) |
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* egonw |
is going home |
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egonw |
bye |
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jonalv |
bye |
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jonalv |
hi edrin |
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masak |
hi edrin |
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egonw_ |
did anyone here from Ola? |
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egonw_ |
oh, that was a cool patch! |
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masak |
:) |
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masak |
egonw_: he's bound to be up on stage any minute now |
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egonw_ |
what's the live feed again? |
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masak |
do you have the feed? |
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jonalv |
<http://www.e-facto.com/_cetril>/ |
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egonw_ |
:) |
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egonw_ |
ok, thanx... |
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egonw_ |
watching it now |
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egonw_ |
is it clear yet what he 'won' ? |
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jonalv |
no definitly not :) |
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edrin |
hi egonw, hi masak |
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egonw_ |
hi edrin |
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masak |
edrin: things are looking better and better with js in bc2 |
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edrin |
hi jonalv |
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edrin |
cool |
| 18:49 |
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jonalv |
hi edrin :) |
| 18:49 |
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EskilA |
Is the CIA bot is not working or what? |
| 18:49 |
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edrin |
if you give me instructions how to write plugins for bioclipse 2 i will just port the rhino plugin to it |
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EskilA |
err, ignore weird grammar, I'm tired :p |
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masak |
edrin: we hope to establish a js/R-connection Real Soon Now |
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masak |
EskilA: don't think so |
| 18:50 |
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masak |
and with grammar yours there nothing wrong is |
| 18:50 |
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jonalv |
edrin: I am not sure we have reached a point where we can talk about the way to write plugins for bioclipse 2 yrt... |
| 18:50 |
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edrin |
what is a js/R-connection |
| 18:50 |
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EskilA |
thank you I am |
| 18:50 |
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masak |
edrin: R is a statistical program |
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jonalv |
oh hello mister Thank you |
| 18:51 |
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masak |
and js is short for Javascript |
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edrin |
olas participates the meeting though we did not win ? |
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masak |
jonalv: this question goes out to all the parmesan cheese lovers out there |
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masak |
edrin: we won... something |
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masak |
not sure what |
| 18:52 |
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EskilA |
a years supply of Roquefort |
| 18:52 |
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masak |
\o/ |
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edrin |
won something? |
| 18:52 |
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masak |
well, um, maybe |
| 18:53 |
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masak |
we'll see |
| 18:53 |
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jonalv |
edrin: I have managed to get a service object into the javascript session now. It seems to work. Feel free to check my code if you want |
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masak |
edrin: are you following along on the live feed? |
| 18:53 |
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edrin |
i don't speek french, sorry |
| 18:53 |
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masak |
edrin: neither does olas |
| 18:53 |
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* jonalv |
neither |
| 18:53 |
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EskilA |
did your stream break up just now? |
| 18:54 |
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masak |
yes :( |
| 18:54 |
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jonalv |
yep but I am back now |
| 18:54 |
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edrin |
yup |
| 18:54 |
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masak |
server must be a bit weak :) |
| 18:54 |
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masak |
here he comes... |
| 18:54 |
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masak |
really exciting |
| 18:54 |
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jonalv |
oki server stay up now... |
| 18:54 |
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masak |
a SPECIAL price |
| 18:55 |
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masak |
ONE project |
| 18:55 |
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masak |
very very CENTRAL |
| 18:55 |
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masak |
something that TOUCHES US |
| 18:55 |
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masak |
oh, come on! |
| 18:55 |
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jonalv |
:) |
| 18:56 |
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egonw_ |
he's online now? |
| 18:56 |
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egonw_ |
don't see him yet... |
| 18:56 |
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masak |
yay! |
| 18:56 |
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egonw_ |
or did he gain some weight ? :) |
| 18:56 |
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masak |
you ROCK |
| 18:56 |
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masak |
Bioclipse REALLY ROCKS |
| 18:57 |
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egonw_ |
ah, there he is... |
| 18:57 |
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egonw_ |
you have sound? |
| 18:57 |
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masak |
yes! |
| 18:57 |
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egonw_ |
I dont :( |
| 18:57 |
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masak |
he just thanked all 22 developers who have been involved so far |
| 18:57 |
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* masak |
toasts to Bioclipse |
| 18:57 |
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* EskilA |
joins masak |
| 18:57 |
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edrin |
hey, we are standard |
| 18:57 |
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egonw_ |
so, what was the award? |
| 18:58 |
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jonalv |
yea what was the award except "something really special"? |
| 18:58 |
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egonw_ |
no idea yet :) |
| 18:58 |
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egonw_ |
that's all I know too... |
| 18:58 |
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egonw_ |
I tried to trick the organization into letting me know... |
| 18:58 |
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egonw_ |
that's it? |
| 18:58 |
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masak |
yes |
| 18:58 |
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egonw_ |
he's gone again... |
| 18:58 |
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jonalv |
yea |
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EskilA |
golden mirrored C FTW |
| 18:59 |
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masak |
very short olas appearance |
| 18:59 |
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edrin |
but at least that's really good - they describe us a as a standard that will be basis for bioinformatics/chemoinf. development |
| 18:59 |
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jonalv |
We have been waiting 2 hours for that... :) |
| 18:59 |
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masak |
EskilA: question is: W what? |
| 18:59 |
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masak |
edrin: truly |
| 18:59 |
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egonw_ |
edrin: yeah, total crap... |
| 18:59 |
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EskilA |
yeah |
| 18:59 |
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egonw_ |
just give use the 3k euro :( |
| 19:00 |
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EskilA |
hehe |
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masak |
egonw_: those were not prize money |
| 19:00 |
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masak |
those were the maximum travel account |
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masak |
...I think |
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egonw_ |
http://www.tropheesdulibre.org[…]ses-.html?lang=en |
| 19:00 |
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egonw_ |
no... |
| 19:00 |
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egonw_ |
The sum of 3,000 euros to contribute to funding project |
| 19:00 |
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masak |
oh, cool |
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EskilA |
ah ok |
| 19:01 |
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masak |
in that case, I have no complaints :) |
| 19:01 |
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edrin |
hey, to become a standard just means we need to get many awards to be |
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* jonalv |
is signing off |
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edrin |
jonalv |
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EskilA |
bye jpnalv |
| 19:02 |
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edrin |
did you get my last mail? |
| 19:02 |
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jonalv |
edrin, yes but I am not sure I understand |
| 19:03 |
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jonalv |
but I gopt something working today. Feel free to check it out |
| 19:03 |
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edrin |
yes, me too |
| 19:03 |
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egonw_ |
yeah, but the special prize is different |
| 19:03 |
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egonw_ |
!= 3k euro :( |
| 19:03 |
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jonalv |
as in your not sure you undersatnd? |
| 19:03 |
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masak |
dang. |
| 19:03 |
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edrin |
jonalv: it's very hard to check something out withou knowing what to check out. |
| 19:04 |
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jonalv |
right, good poinmt :) |
| 19:04 |
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edrin |
i am currently very confused about bc2 and its svn tree |
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masak |
edrin: that's because it is in constant flux |
| 19:04 |
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masak |
yesterday core got a new dependency, which was most likely a bad idea |
| 19:05 |
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jonalv |
so it would be biojava and core and what ever else you currently need to resolve dependencies |
| 19:05 |
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jonalv |
(I think R has sneaked in a must-hava plugin but that will soon not be the case any longer...) |
| 19:05 |
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masak |
ack |
| 19:05 |
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masak |
it's just a temporary thing |
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EskilA |
Good evening everyone |
| 19:06 |
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jonalv |
so I'll try again and leave now... |
| 19:06 |
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masak |
EskilA: see you tomorrow |
| 19:07 |
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masak |
...for some definition of "see" |
| 19:07 |
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jonalv |
bye |
| 19:07 |
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masak |
bye |
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* egonw_ |
is copying 17M molecules into a MySQL database... |
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egonw_ |
any chance I can browse them with BC? |
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edrin |
egonw: and did it work? |
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edrin |
g8 |
