Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2008-01-07

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08:05 jonalv hi all
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08:21 jonalv hi olas
08:21 olas hi jonalv
08:36 olas egonw: could we briefly discuss your answer to my REST questions today?
08:37 egonw yes, but really briefly
08:37 olas sure
08:37 olas now?
08:37 egonw got a EU grant proposal deadline to finish
08:37 egonw yes
08:37 olas excellent
08:38 olas let me just get the mail
08:39 olas I will do some small work on the qsar today
08:40 egonw ok, quick question on that
08:40 egonw so your qsar config file stuff...
08:40 olas egonw: what is missing from CDK with respect to the REST/QSAR discussion
08:40 olas ok, you first
08:40 egonw you plan to use a form editor for that?
08:40 egonw that's what I do in the CASE plugin
08:40 egonw works quite well
08:40 olas yes
08:40 olas forms for sure
08:40 egonw requires some book keeping, but straight forward
08:41 olas sure
08:41 egonw ack, just to make sure :)
08:41 olas will look at your CASE
08:41 olas forms doc is quite extensive
08:41 olas but back to CDK
08:41 olas and REST IDs
08:41 egonw well... it's about the same as a full widget toolkit
08:41 egonw but looks nicer
08:42 olas is there something missing in CDK for REST using QSAR?
08:42 olas (or the other way around)
08:42 egonw REST only says where to do something
08:42 egonw not what to do
08:42 olas I know
08:42 olas but it would be great to store the ID's, right?
08:42 egonw Rajarshi's proposal does not use the descriptor identifiers...
08:42 olas for a molecule for example
08:42 egonw but the CDK class name
08:43 egonw so, some translation has to be made
08:43 egonw yes, the IDs are good...
08:43 olas but if there is an ontology, why not use it?
08:43 egonw mom, let me show you some code...
08:43 olas great
08:43 egonw http://cdk.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/cd​k/trunk/cdk/src/org/openscience/cdk/qsar​/descriptors/molecular/AtomCountDescript​or.java?revision=9655&view=markup
08:44 egonw check around line 95
08:44 olas ok
08:44 egonw the first parameter is the descriptor ID
08:44 egonw that's unique, and implementation independent....
08:44 egonw JOELib uses the same ID
08:44 olas oh
08:44 olas cool
08:44 egonw theoretically, at least :)
08:44 olas yes, this is a REST ID
08:45 olas can I just go ahead and use them?
08:45 egonw it's actually a RDF identifier
08:45 olas sure
08:45 egonw yes, that's what they are for
08:45 olas want to make an example that looks real
08:46 olas I'll mix rajarshis proposal and the descriptor ontology, right?
08:46 olas why didin't he use the ontology?
08:47 olas the RDF ID, I mean?
08:47 olas and just the class?
08:47 egonw dunno...
08:47 olas second
08:47 egonw because http:///bla/http://descriptorID#atomCount looks weird?
08:47 olas I guess so
08:48 olas I am not relying on web services only
08:48 olas I just want REST ID's that identifies the descriptors
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08:51 egonw btw, did you see my wiki updates?
08:51 olas no, will look at them now
08:53 olas egonw: would be great with screenshots for SpecMol and MzData plugins
08:53 olas do you have any?
08:54 egonw no, would have to make them
08:54 egonw I can do that later this week, but not today
08:54 olas this week is OK
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11:12 olas hi masak
11:13 masak hello
11:14 * masak -> lunch
11:14 masak :)
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11:37 edrin hello :) how are you?
11:58 olas hi edrin
11:58 edrin hi olas
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12:23 * jonalv back from saune eh I mean lunch
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12:27 olas steinbeck: Good to see you're at EBI now!
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12:28 jonalv :)
12:28 olas haha
12:28 jonalv lol
12:28 olas steinbeck:
12:28 olas irc (1:29:56 PM): steinbeck has left bioclipse olas (1:30:01 PM): steinbeck: Good to see you're at EBI now! irc (1:30:49 PM): steinbeck has joined bioclipse
12:29 steinbeck haha
12:29 steinbeck cool
12:29 olas How are things settling?
12:29 steinbeck Well, just been here for four hours :-)
12:29 olas Are you at hinxtoin now?
12:29 steinbeck got my office, but all empty
12:29 steinbeck yes :-)
12:29 olas How nice
12:30 olas it will take some time to fill it up
12:30 steinbeck the moving company messed up with my boxes
12:30 olas oh :-)
12:30 steinbeck they claim they dropped it of, but no one know about them
12:30 steinbeck hehe
12:30 olas I wonder who got all your stuff...
12:30 steinbeck gotta go for lunch with my team
12:30 olas ttl
12:30 steinbeck yeah me too
12:30 steinbeck ttl
13:03 egonw edrin: what's the link to the XEP again?
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14:03 edrin egonw: the i-o-object-forms XEP?
14:03 edrin the proposal i sent?
14:07 egonw yes
14:08 edrin http://www.xmpp.org/extension​s/inbox/io-object-forms.html
15:03 jonalv How do I set the name of an editor to the name of the entity it is editing?
15:25 olas editor.setTitle(...)
15:30 jonalv okej, jag hittade en annan variant men tack ändå
15:30 jonalv oops wrong lang. sry
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