Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2008-02-07

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09:06 olas hi all
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10:44 CIA-22 bioclipse: ospjuth * r4877 /branches/bioclipse2/core/​plugins/net.bioclipse.ui/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Added dummy action command, handler, and binding to show new way of contributing menu actions to Bioclipse.
11:45 egonw hi olas
11:48 egonw olas: around?
12:35 olas egonw: I'm back
12:35 olas from lunch
12:36 olas and from the mountains :-)
12:36 * olas has been skiing for a few days
12:50 * jonalv is back
12:59 CIA-22 bioclipse: ospjuth * r4878 /branches/bioclipse2/core/​plugins/net.bioclipse.ui/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Added a preference initializer.
13:09 jonalv olas: a preference initialiser? Sounds fancy what does it do? :)
13:09 olas initialize a preference with a default value
13:10 jonalv ah default value
14:06 egonw olas: I'm back too now
14:57 egonw and gone again
14:57 egonw olas: please let me know what you think of launchpad... (see my blog)
14:58 egonw I'd love to see that the Bioclipse development is going to use it...
16:05 olas egonw: sure
16:05 olas it looks good
16:06 olas I'll look into it next week
16:14 egonw olas: exellent
16:14 egonw +c
16:14 egonw I can talk you through it, if you like
16:14 olas great
16:14 olas could you give me the URL to the BO descriptor dictionary?
16:14 egonw anytime you like...
16:14 egonw yeah, think so
16:14 egonw mom
16:16 olas tried to google but couln't find it
16:17 egonw http://qsar.sourceforge.net/d​icts/blue-obelisk/index.xhtml
16:17 olas lookd on BO.sf.net as well...
16:17 egonw that's the algorithm one...
16:17 olas yes
16:17 olas found that one
16:17 egonw http://qsar.sourceforge.net/dic​ts/qsar-descriptors/index.xhtml
16:17 egonw that's the descriptor one
16:17 olas right, thanks
16:17 olas all these are in CDK?
16:17 egonw no, don't think so...
16:17 egonw but not sure
16:17 olas ok
16:18 olas will check that out
16:18 egonw shall I quickly demo LP now?
16:18 egonw it
16:18 olas ok
16:18 egonw 's done in 10 minutes
16:18 * olas got 10 minutes
16:18 egonw go2 https://launchpad.net/cdk
16:18 olas but not much more :-)
16:18 egonw neither do I
16:19 olas Im with you
16:19 egonw then click the Code tap
16:19 egonw tab
16:19 olas k
16:19 egonw select trunk series
16:19 egonw BC would have a BC2 series
16:19 olas yes
16:19 egonw then click the Blueprints tab
16:19 egonw should get you to: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cdk/trunk/
16:19 olas yes
16:19 egonw so, there are 3 goals defined
16:20 egonw for CDK trunk/ at this moment
16:20 egonw for BC2 that would be: bla, bla, morebla
16:20 olas so a blueprint is a goal?
16:20 egonw can be
16:20 egonw it's a property
16:20 egonw click the blueprint 'prediction-ionization'
16:20 egonw and before that...
16:20 olas k
16:20 egonw note the other fields in the table
16:21 egonw so, one can see the state of goals...
16:21 egonw including accepted, etc
16:21 egonw click the blueprint 'prediction-ionization'
16:21 olas so a blueprint is a high level issue?
16:21 egonw https://blueprints.launchpad.net​/cdk/+spec/prediction-ionization
16:21 olas k
16:21 egonw sort of...
16:21 egonw can be anything...
16:21 olas ok
16:21 olas nive tree
16:21 olas nice tree
16:22 egonw the goal as Miguel and I used it are fairly high level
16:22 egonw but this tree shows you that...
16:22 egonw it can go down to fairly small tasks...
16:22 olas how is the tree constructed?
16:22 egonw the deps are really nice
16:22 olas tasks added etc?
16:22 egonw automatically...
16:22 egonw when you define deps... the three grows
16:22 olas how do you define deps?
16:22 egonw easy
16:22 egonw each 'blueprint' has a unique name
16:23 egonw ID
16:23 olas right
16:23 egonw like reaction-missing-atomtypes
16:23 olas yes
16:23 egonw in the left menu, clicl...
16:23 egonw Add dependency
16:23 egonw and then you enter this ID
16:23 egonw and there is a simple search functionality to help
16:23 egonw so, adding a dep is matter of seconds...
16:23 olas I can't add dep
16:23 olas guess I need credentials
16:24 egonw you need to be logged in
16:24 olas but I understand
16:24 egonw don't thikn you need to be registered to the project though...
16:24 olas how does this work with SF?
16:24 egonw depends...
16:24 egonw :)
16:24 egonw it's independent...
16:24 egonw but there are sorts of integration...
16:24 olas how should bugs be reported with LP/SF combo?
16:24 egonw not tested, but I heard you can easily link to SF bug reports
16:24 olas and assignments?
16:24 egonw just on SF
16:25 egonw LP would say: "bugs are reported n SF"
16:25 egonw so, no duplication etc
16:25 olas so what should we use LP for? the high level structuring of tasks?
16:25 egonw that might change when there is a Ubuntu .deb for Bioclipse :)
16:25 egonw yes
16:25 olas which are independent of SF bugs/RFE's?
16:25 egonw for exactly that
16:25 egonw it allows tracking of state
16:25 egonw "Slow progress", "Good progress" etc
16:26 olas hmm
16:26 olas of the bugs you mena?
16:26 egonw who is working on it...
16:26 olas mean?
16:26 egonw each blueprint can link to a wiki page for further info
16:26 egonw no, bugs would just be at SF for now
16:26 olas so we need to be able to import bugs in LP
16:26 olas hmm
16:26 egonw maybe for ever...
16:26 olas but if I'm working on bugs?
16:26 egonw no, we don't have to do any bug tracking on LP
16:26 olas and want to report progress?
16:26 olas ok
16:26 egonw that tracking is simply done on SF
16:26 olas so LP will be for planned tasks and assignments
16:27 egonw when it related to a blueprint...
16:27 egonw then you can make that link, though
16:27 egonw yes, to replace this wiki page:
16:27 egonw http://wiki.bioclipse.net/index.php?title=Projects
16:27 olas I see
16:27 egonw by adding nice dependency trees
16:27 egonw easier linking to other bits of info
16:27 olas each project will probably be a blueprint then
16:27 egonw easier to add more detail...
16:28 egonw e.g. when MoSS depends on something you need to do/fix
16:28 egonw or adding a blueprint for something you need me to do, for the QSAR project
16:28 olas olas (5:30:14 PM): each project will probably be a blueprint then?
16:28 egonw yes, each project would be *at least* one blueprint
16:28 egonw at least -> often a project can be split up in smaller tasks...
16:28 olas sounds good
16:29 egonw and these tasks may have to be implemented by different people...
16:29 olas true
16:29 egonw this is where this system excels beyond the use of the wiki
16:29 olas I'll set one up for Bioclipse
16:29 olas you have convinced me
16:29 egonw ok, good :)
16:29 egonw that was a quite reasonable elevator pitch :)
16:29 * egonw is proud with himself
16:29 egonw not quite yet down to the 30 seconds...
16:30 egonw but that is a tall building anyway :)
16:30 olas elevator speach?
16:30 egonw :)
16:30 olas speech
16:30 olas :-)
16:31 egonw ok, preparing for basketball... cu tommorow... or so...
16:31 olas yup
16:31 olas cu tomorrow
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