Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2008-06-13

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08:22 jonalv org.openscience.cdk is not compiling for me. Is it just my new Mac who is making troubles again or is anyone else having problems?
09:19 egonw jonalv: sorry...
09:19 egonw lengthy chat with ola
09:19 egonw I see a red cross, but still need to sync with svn for cdk and bc2
09:19 egonw but at least ola got my bc2 booting again
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11:07 egonw jonalv: ping
11:07 egonw jonalv: please update SVN and report if you still have trouble
11:07 egonw edrin: did you see this:
11:07 egonw http://friendfeed.com/search?q=XMPP
12:03 edrin egonw: what is this?
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13:34 jonalv egonw_:  it compiles now :)
14:01 egonw_ edrin: ping
14:01 edrin hi
14:01 egonw_ friendfeed, or xmpp? :)
14:01 edrin friendfeed
14:03 egonw_ it's a new social netwerk thing...
14:03 egonw_ aggregates (RSS) feeds of friends
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14:03 egonw_ and allows one to discuss things on that feed
14:03 egonw_ edrin: but that was not the point
14:03 egonw_ it's about XMPP being used in science...
14:03 egonw_ I brought in your XEP
14:03 edrin oh
14:03 edrin did not notice
14:03 * edrin looks again
14:04 egonw_ this thread in particular:
14:04 egonw_ http://friendfeed.com/e/12cfe83f-abb8-8ca0-86d​4-a1328f232338/Using-XMPP-for-lab-management/
14:04 egonw_ hi EskilA
14:04 EskilA hi
14:05 edrin ah!
14:05 edrin very cool
14:05 edrin !
14:07 edrin egonw_: I did not notice the science/research part from your first link
14:10 edrin egonw_: did you notice this mail to the standards mailing list regarding IO DATA?
14:12 egonw_ oh, yes...
14:12 egonw_ still have to reply to that
14:12 egonw_ wanted to talk with you first...
14:12 egonw_ do you plan to reply?
14:13 edrin no, would be happy if you could
14:15 edrin what would you do to answer?
14:25 egonw_ no idea yet
14:27 edrin i did not really understand why the service must publish itself to potential future clients
14:27 edrin i think this might make sense in some cases
14:27 edrin but this would be rather yet another xep to publish new services
14:28 edrin and i am pretty sure that the xmpp community would like to have this done via Pubsub
14:29 edrin meaning, for example, publish new "Ad-Hoc Services in general (not IO DATA specific) via pubsub and interested clients may then discover them via disco.
14:31 edrin on the other hand we did not discuss the "modify/changed API" thing here yet. i think we have to mention a rules that a service's API must not change after its release. therefore a service should have a version in its name...
14:31 edrin like TheDatabaseService-v1.server.example.net
14:33 edrin i still have an unsent mail in my outbox in response to his mail, but did not send it because i fear that they will start a stupid discussion again about something that was not part of the xep we write...
14:33 edrin egonw_: ?
14:33 jonalv he is busy :)
14:35 jonalv I am keeping him busy :)
14:35 edrin you are?
14:53 jonalv yup :)
15:04 egonw_ sorry edrin
15:04 egonw_ will reply to this guy
15:04 egonw_ feel free to email the draft you have right now
15:04 egonw_ will have to go offline now
15:08 edrin currently not home
15:08 edrin and my institute does not allow me to connect my laptop
15:09 egonw_ ok
15:09 egonw_ no worries
15:09 * edrin gets angry each time I realizes this again: private laptops not allowed...
15:09 * edrin ... because of security risk...
15:10 * edrin remembers that one year ago the ppl realized that 100% of all institute computers were infected with trojan horses...
15:10 edrin directly from the net
15:10 shk3 remembers me of cubic
15:10 shk3 or universität köln,
15:10 edrin because the "secure" institute net had no firewall
15:11 shk3 the windows computers were very prone to be infected with all sorts of stuff
15:11 edrin and all computers were directly connected
15:11 edrin and all were installed with win2k! with no security fixes...
15:12 edrin but anyway... we are not allowed to use our own (secure) computers
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15:26 stain if you want to have fun, mount a Z: on all machines that is writable for everyone
15:27 stain they did that in my old institute with not so pleasant results
15:27 stain let me just say that there were some arrests
15:57 edrin heheh
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21:35 CIA-47 bioclipse: ospjuth * r5846 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse​.pcore/src/net/bioclipse/pcore/editors/ (3 files): Able to parse and visualize pcore queries in right section of editor.

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