Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2008-09-03

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06:36 olas moin
06:36 zarah hi olas
06:37 * olas is off for breakfast
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08:07 jonalv hi
08:07 zarah hi jonalv
08:07 jonalv anyone updating our cdk code to work with the new iterable things in cdk?
08:08 jonalv Or should I do it?
08:08 jonalv ping
08:08 maclean Not me, said the fox.
08:09 jonalv hm I guess I will do it then...
08:09 maclean Wil that mean 10,000 commits?
08:09 maclean *Will
08:10 jonalv uhm nope one big I was planning on :)
08:10 maclean Yes, I guess that makes more sense. I haven't had any tea yet this morning.
08:11 jonalv besides I need this to work (at least at a few places) before I can continue. (So I might as well do it all)
08:11 jonalv no tea? How do you survive?
08:11 maclean My limitless wits. And I'm off for tea now.
08:11 jonalv I don't think I would... :)
08:13 CIA-30 bioclipse: goglepox * r6851 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.cdk.ui.sdf​editor/src/net/bioclipse/cdk/ui/sdfeditor/editor/ (MoleculesEditor.java SDFElementComparer.java): Redesign of BioclipsStore now uses SoftReferenses
08:14 CIA-30 bioclipse: goglepox * r6852 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Redesign of BioclipsStore now uses SoftReferenses
08:20 CIA-30 bioclipse: jonalv * r6853 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/ (4 files in 4 dirs): Adopted Bioclipse code to CDK's change from iterators to iterables
08:20 * olas likes the sound "Soft" references
08:20 olas soft is good
08:20 olas @seen egonw
08:20 zarah egonw was last seen 2008-09-03T04:15:33 in #cdk saying 'cool...'
08:21 olas 04:15!?
08:21 maclean Are they like weak references?
08:21 olas ask Gpox :-)
08:21 jonalv olas: that's GMT
08:21 * olas just likes the sound
08:21 * maclean is GMT
08:22 jonalv maclean: you are? I would think you are GMT +1 because of daylihgt savings...
08:22 maclean :) Just my name : Gilleain Mclean Torrance...
08:22 jonalv right
08:23 jonalv LOL
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08:23 jonalv hi m4r1in
08:24 m4r1in hi
08:24 zarah hi m4r1in
08:24 m4r1in hi zarah
08:25 edrin yet another bot?
08:26 maclean Don't start, Hal!
08:26 * jonalv has no idea
08:26 edrin maclean: :)
08:27 jonalv m4r1in: Do you often come here?
08:28 m4r1in jonalv: Every time i login ;o)
08:29 jonalv m4r1in: I don't think I have seen you before :)
08:29 jonalv maybe I am just blind :)
08:30 m4r1in jonalv: (nearly every day) No, you're not blind, i'm new...^^
08:34 maclean Well, I now understand Soft References thanks to this : http://weblogs.java.net/blog/enicholas​/archive/2006/05/understanding_w.html
08:58 jonalv zarah: seen egonw?
08:58 zarah egonw was last seen 2008-09-03T04:15:33 in #cdk saying 'cool...'
08:58 jonalv hm we needs him...
09:01 CIA-30 bioclipse: jonalv * r6854 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.​cdk.ui.sdfeditor/src/net/bioclipse/cdk/u​i/sdfeditor/editor/MoleculesEditor.java: added no param constructor
09:23 CIA-30 bioclipse: jonalv * r6855 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.stru​cturedb/src/net/bioclipse/structuredb/intern​albusiness/StructuredbInstanceManager.java: [structuredb] takes care of a potential division by 0 problem...
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09:28 jonalv where is egonw? What did he do?
09:28 jonalv hi shk3
09:28 jonalv shk3: do you know what egon did regardning jumbo the otehr day?
09:29 maclean He updated it to the newer version?
09:30 maclean Which broke some stuff.
09:30 jonalv it broke my fix too
09:30 jonalv my ugly uigly fix no longer workds
09:30 maclean oh.
09:30 maclean fix to what?
09:31 jonalv the No resource with name org/xmlcml/cml/base/types.xsd problem...
09:31 maclean Hmm.
09:32 maclean Well, the jumbo jar in the latest cml plugin has that file in it.
09:33 maclean It also has a file called "junk", but I hope that's ignorable.
09:33 jonalv https://sourceforge.net/tracker/ind​ex.php?func=detail&aid=2078045&​amp;group_id=51361&atid=463005
09:33 jonalv maclean: that bug explains my problemds
09:34 maclean reading it..
09:36 maclean Ahhh. now I see. the CML is using a classloader trick to get the file, but this doesn't work too well in Eclipse.
09:37 jonalv yea
09:37 jonalv and getting some answer from those people seems tricky...
09:37 maclean So, I guess that there has been a change between the version you link to,  and the latest, for that file?
09:38 maclean Er, that couldn't have been vaguer.
09:38 maclean I mean.
09:39 maclean The line is in cml revision 390, but the class in the cml plugin is from a later revision?
09:40 jonalv maclean: I don't know but it still doesn't work so it's probably the same...
09:40 jonalv brb
09:42 jonalv b
09:45 maclean So, the conclusion is : I don't really know.
09:46 maclean Is there a CML channel?
09:47 olas there isn't
09:48 maclean huh.
09:48 olas there's a mailing list
09:48 olas cml-discuss
09:48 olas at sourceforge
09:51 shk3 jonalv: sorry for that
09:51 jonalv yup I tried mailing them but I think my mail is still awaiting approval... :/
09:54 olas I need to update cdk = chemoinformatics feature on teh update site
09:54 olas anyone with pending commits? anything broken?
10:13 * jonalv has no pending commits and is trying to remember if anything is especially broken
10:14 edrin m4r1in: are you a java eclipse developer?
10:14 edrin btw. will egon come today?
10:14 jonalv olas: I can't think of anything being especially broken in the chemoinforamtics feature
10:14 * jonalv hopes egon will turn up...
10:14 edrin ok
10:26 shk3 chemoinformatics should be all right
10:39 olas egon will turn up after lunch
10:41 shk3 jonalv: you said there is code for child handling in sdf editor?
10:41 shk3 where exactly can I find it?
10:47 CIA-30 bioclipse: ospjuth * r6856 /bioclipse2/trunk/bioclipse-updatesite/ (artifacts.xml content.xml): removed artifacts.
10:51 olas jonalv, Gpox: have there been any updates in core as well that chemoinformatics rely on?
10:51 olas probably, right?
11:07 jonalv olas: I have no idea
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12:14 jonalv egonw: hi
12:14 CIA-30 bioclipse: goglepox * r6857 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net​.bioclipse.cdk.ui.sdfeditor/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Interface for viewing collections of molecules
12:15 jonalv egonw: What did you do the other day concerning Jumbo?
12:15 jonalv My ugly ugly fix no longer works... :/
12:16 CIA-30 bioclipse: jonalv * r6858 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.str​ucturedb.tests/tests/net/bioclipse/structur​edb/business/StructuredbManagerTest.java: [structuredb] Adopted tests for windows
12:16 egonw jonalv: email me details
12:17 jonalv egonw: uhm are you busy right now?
12:17 egonw um.. yes :)
12:17 egonw very. very busy
12:18 jonalv I think it's difficult to explain without feedback...
12:18 jonalv but put it like this: what did you change?
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12:19 egonw bbl
12:19 jonalv :(
12:19 egonw jonalv: sorry... too busy right now
12:25 CIA-30 bioclipse: goglepox * r6859 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.biocl​ipse.cdk.ui/src/net/bioclipse/cdk/u​i/views/IMoleculesEditorModel.java: Moved to net.bioclipse.cdk.ui.views
13:04 CIA-30 bioclipse: jonalv * r6860 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/​net.bioclipse.structuredb/ (2 files in 2 dirs): [structuredb] Added first quick and dirty implementation of molecules editor model
13:17 CIA-30 bioclipse: jonalv * r6861 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.biocl​ipse.structuredb/src/net/bioclipse/​structuredb/AnnotationUIModel.java: [structuredb] Added adapter support for getting a moleculeseditormodel from an AnnotationUIModel
13:17 CIA-30 bioclipse: goglepox * r6862 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.cdk.ui​.sdfeditor/src/net/bioclipse/cdk/ui/sdfeditor/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Implementing support for IMoleculesEditorModel
13:17 CIA-30 bioclipse: goglepox * r6863 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.cdk.ui/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Implementing support for IMoleculesEditorModel
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13:38 olas hi
13:38 zarah hi olas
13:38 olas @seen egonw
13:38 zarah egonw was last seen 2008-09-03T11:11:13 in #bioclipse saying 'jonalv: sorry... too busy right now'
13:39 olas haha
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13:57 olas maclean: around?
13:57 maclean Hi, yes.
13:57 olas do you see icons for 2D molecules?
13:58 olas in bioclipse explorer?
13:58 maclean I'll check.
13:58 olas because I don't
13:58 olas will publish an udpate t othe update site for CDK now
13:58 olas and don't want icons to be missing :-)
13:59 olas jonalv reports they seem to be missing
13:59 olas will check it out
13:59 maclean they are missing.
14:00 olas ack
14:00 olas will fix this
14:00 maclean ok.
14:00 olas (if I can)
14:02 olas ok
14:02 olas found the source of errors
14:02 maclean uh-hu?
14:02 olas someone has removed (in cdk10.jcp) "icons/molecule2D.png
14:02 olas we should replace that with masaks recent version
14:02 maclean that would do it, right enough.
14:02 olas he is looking into that
14:05 maclean well the history for that folder has the last edit as "removed old molecule2D.gif icon"...by carl_masak
14:06 olas yup
14:06 olas they made 6 new icons
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14:22 jonalv wb egonw
14:26 CIA-30 bioclipse: ospjuth * r6864 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.​bioclipse.ui/icons/chemistry/ (7 files): Added 6 chemistry icons by masak & jonalv to net.bioclipse.core.ui/icons/chemistry/ folder. Please do not duplicate but reference these.
14:26 egonw olas: ping
14:26 olas pong
14:26 olas hi egonw
14:26 olas you have been busy
14:26 egonw yes, last, last day in Wageningen
14:27 olas there are failing unit tests in CDK regarding sybyl atom types
14:27 olas something must have happened
14:28 egonw http://cheminfo.informatics.indiana.edu/~rguh​a/code/java/nightly/test/result-atomtype.html
14:28 egonw ?
14:28 olas yes
14:29 egonw those are old...
14:29 egonw bad unit tests
14:29 egonw those mol2 files are not good
14:29 egonw should have removed them already
14:29 olas did you read the email?
14:29 egonw no, not yet
14:29 egonw just back from meetings
14:29 olas or answer this:
14:29 olas if you read in a molfile
14:30 olas how assign sybyl atom types?
14:30 olas Sam did a workaround here
14:30 olas but it's not perfect
14:30 egonw not
14:30 egonw I have not updated the mol2 reader in any respect
14:30 egonw if only you had asked me :)
14:31 egonw ok, which email?
14:31 egonw from 10:31 ?
14:31 olas mol2 reader/writer is irrelevant
14:31 egonw what exactly is failing?
14:31 olas we read in a molfile to IAtomcontainer
14:31 egonw mol2 file?
14:31 egonw or MDL molfile?
14:31 olas no
14:32 olas MDL molfile
14:32 egonw ok
14:32 olas we never use mol2 files
14:32 egonw huh?
14:32 egonw then why did I hack on the Mol2Writer?
14:32 olas we built sround that
14:32 olas Sam made a wrapper to read IAtomContainer directly
14:33 olas without going via mol2
14:33 olas we have been busy here :-)
14:33 egonw ah, ok
14:33 egonw so, different setting than yesterday... fine
14:33 olas aromaticity detection is throwing an exception
14:33 olas please wait
14:34 olas Sam is coming
14:34 olas olas=sam
14:34 olas hi Egon
14:35 egonw hi Sam
14:35 egonw nice to meet you
14:35 egonw try /nick sam
14:35 egonw it's easier to talk without masks :)
14:35 egonw (never mind)
14:35 olas /nick sam
14:36 egonw mmm... does it have a space in front of the slash?
14:36 egonw (it should not; otherwise, should have worked...)
14:36 egonw anyway...
14:36 olas /nick sam
14:36 egonw let's talks sybyl atom types
14:37 olas I´m calling SybylAtomTypeMatcher.findMatchingAtomType
14:37 egonw good
14:37 olas and I think the CDKHuckelAromaticityDetector is failing
14:38 egonw it might... we have a good number of unit tests, but it is not easy to perceive aromaticity
14:38 egonw note that it only considers these systems:
14:38 egonw - at most two rings connected via a shared bond
14:38 egonw - no double/triple bonds with one atom in the ring, one not
14:38 olas let me just find a bit of test code...
14:38 egonw from there, just Hueckel 4n+2
14:39 egonw so, the only problem is only C.2 perceived where you would have expected C.ar?
14:40 olas Sam is working up a piece of code
14:41 egonw ok
14:42 * jonalv grabs a ticket and aligns himself in the rest of the waiting queue for egonw's important time
14:42 olas http://pastebin.com/m26e7d052
14:42 olas I get an exception - see above url
14:43 olas I based the code on example in unit test
14:44 olas egonw: you got the code?
14:45 egonw olas: code emailed?
14:45 olas pastebin above
14:45 egonw right
14:45 egonw ok, first comment
14:45 egonw I'm sure you're not reading the oldest MDL molfile format
14:46 egonw if V2000, please use MDLV2000Reader
14:46 egonw different format
14:46 olas ok
14:46 olas go on
14:46 * olas did not use that and it fais as well
14:46 egonw and apply that patch I sent yesterday
14:46 egonw this is the code from yesterday morning before we fixed the NoSuchAtomTypeException
14:47 olas did that
14:47 egonw not on the pastebin code
14:47 olas thats when we get the C2 not C.ar problem
14:47 olas because aromaticity detection fails
14:47 olas can you run the unit test in net.bioclipse.cdk.business.tests?
14:48 egonw I can try
14:48 olas great
14:48 egonw maybe...
14:49 egonw that plugin's classpath is really bad...
14:49 egonw don't trust that...
14:49 egonw it's classpath is a mix of CDK 1.0 and CDK trunk
14:49 egonw but I can try it anyway...
14:49 olas Sam says: uses MDLV2000 and your patch
14:50 olas then only problem: C.2 instead of C.ar
14:50 olas (C.ar is expected)
14:50 egonw ok, that's good...
14:50 egonw do you get any C.ar at all?
14:50 egonw or none?
14:50 egonw that is... is there no single molecule with C.ar ?
14:50 egonw Might you please try benzene?
14:50 olas no C.ar at all
14:51 olas we test with benzene from moleculefactory
14:51 egonw ok, perfect
14:51 egonw mmm...
14:52 egonw which cdk.bus.test should I run?
14:52 olas net.bc.cdk.business.test does not depend on net.bc.cdk10, only net.bc.cdk10.jcp (which is OK)!
14:52 olas CDKManagerTest
14:52 olas last test
14:52 olas sybylAtomType3
14:52 olas mom
14:52 olas committing some changes
14:53 olas benzene from molfactory giving all C.2
14:53 olas (report from Sam)
14:54 CIA-30 bioclipse: ospjuth * r6865 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net​.bioclipse.cdk.business.test/ (3 files in 3 dirs): some test code added.
14:54 olas http://pastebin.com/m3a3c320f
14:55 olas (from sam)
14:58 CIA-30 bioclipse: ospjuth * r6866 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclips​e.cdk.business.test/src/net/bioclipse/​cdk/business/test/CDKManagerTest.java: Added test with makeBenzene, assigned only C.2 instead of expected C.ar.
14:59 egonw still here...
14:59 egonw machine is being slow...
15:00 CIA-30 bioclipse: ospjuth * r6867 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net​.bioclipse.biojava.ui/icons/ (6 files): Molecular icons moved to bioclipse.ui as they are common to several plugins.
15:00 egonw doing some clean ups in the back ground
15:00 olas ok
15:01 egonw grmph...
15:01 olas ?
15:01 egonw my BC2 workspace is using a git-svn checkout
15:01 egonw which I have not updated yet... :(
15:01 * olas should probably learn git some day
15:04 egonw ok, about 700 commits away from HEAD with the update
15:04 olas :-)
15:06 egonw btw, this explains why my CDKManagerTest did not have 700 lines as yours did
15:06 olas hahaha
15:06 egonw was not aware that my BC2 workspace in Eclipse was using the git checkout
15:06 olas there's now a test with makeBenzene
15:06 egonw but, yes, learn git
15:06 egonw check the video of Linus T. mentioned in Christoph's blog
15:07 egonw it's still about 700 commits
15:07 olas how can that be?
15:07 olas no progress?
15:07 egonw because git is better, for which it uses more info, and so checks out patches one by one...
15:08 egonw and SVN is slow in that respect
15:08 egonw it's making progress, just not so fast
15:08 egonw almost at 6200 now
15:08 egonw will get some coffee now
15:08 egonw brb
15:14 olas egonw: it would be VERY good if you could convince the CML people to apply jonalv's patch: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/inde​x.php?func=detail&aid=2078045&a​mp;group_id=51361&atid=463005
15:14 olas he is stuck on structuredb without that :-(
15:15 olas no one answers on cml-discuss
15:15 CIA-30 bioclipse: shk3 * r6868 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.spectrum/ (3 files in 2 dirs): changes for specmol
15:15 egonw discussed that with Jim on Monday
15:16 egonw we both think this is because of what I mentioned some minutes ago:
15:16 egonw [16:49] <egonw> that plugin's classpath is really bad...
15:16 egonw [16:49] <egonw> don't trust that...
15:16 egonw [16:49] <egonw> it's classpath is a mix of CDK 1.0 and CDK trunk
15:17 egonw cdk.business.tests has a combination of CDK1.0 and CDKtrunk in the same plugins classpath
15:17 edrin olas, egonw I just sent you an email
15:17 egonw git-svn at 6300 now
15:18 egonw olas, jonalv: short cut: you *cannot* use net.bioclipse.cdk10 and net.bioclipse.cdk in one plugin
15:18 egonw those are not compatible
15:18 jonalv egonw: structuredb is not using cdk10
15:18 egonw have not checked that one
15:18 egonw but cdk.business.tests is
15:19 jonalv egonw: there are 3-4 tests not passing in cdk.business.tests 3 of them are probably because of cdk10 but the fourth one is not (and it passes on some systems...)
15:19 egonw structuredb seems clean
15:20 egonw jonalv: I'll wont trust any test from that plugin right now
15:20 jonalv depending on which classloader happend to have loaded the thread that happend to b e running in the jumbo stuff
15:20 olas egonw: you are wrong
15:20 olas there is NO cdk10 in there
15:21 olas cdk10.jcp is NOT cdk0
15:21 jonalv egonw: please try the tests in structredb then. Problem is that they probably passes for the moment because I did a few ugly things in order to be able to continue working...
15:21 egonw <olas> cdk10.jcp is NOT cdk0
15:21 olas exactly
15:21 egonw what do you mean with cdk0 ?
15:21 olas it DEPENDS on cdk10
15:21 olas hence the test plugin sees NO cdk10 classes
15:21 jonalv I don't care about cdk10 right now. You must figure that out sometime but that IS NOT the issue right now.
15:21 olas it sees only CDK10molecule
15:21 olas which is something completely different
15:22 olas which is sort of the point
15:22 egonw well... not sure what it will look like after the update
15:22 egonw but cdk.business.test is/was depending on cdk10
15:22 egonw and using CDK10molecule too
15:22 olas what must be avoided at all costs is to have deps to org.openscience.cdk AND net.bc.cdk10 in the same plugin
15:22 egonw olas: right
15:22 edrin ehm, I would be happy, if you find some time to read the mail today because I would be gone tomorrow for almost 2-3 weeks
15:23 olas egonw: CDK10Molecule is not in net.bc.cdk10, it's in net.bc.cdk10.jcp
15:23 egonw and cdk10.jcp does not depend on cdk10 ?
15:23 olas (confusing, I know)
15:23 olas yes
15:23 egonw it does not?
15:23 * jonalv would love if people could at least update and have the latest version of things... right olas?
15:23 olas YES
15:23 egonw oh...
15:23 olas it depends on it :-)
15:23 olas but that ios not a problem
15:23 egonw well, what's the differnce?
15:24 olas 100%
15:24 egonw JCP uses CDK1.0 classes, not?
15:24 CIA-30 bioclipse: shk3 * r6869 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.specmol/ (12 files in 5 dirs): looks like everything is working, still needs cleanup
15:24 egonw where do those come from then?
15:24 olas just because cdk10.jcp depends on cdk10 does not give business.test the cdk10 classes
15:24 olas they are not reexported
15:24 egonw JCP would use CDK1.0 CMLReader, whcih uses Jumbo5.2
15:24 egonw wihch has a jar *without* the file the stacktrace reports it cannot find...
15:24 olas if you want cdk10 classes in cdk.bus.tests, you MUST add dep to cdk10 directly
15:24 olas which is NOT there
15:25 olas hence is the test really clean now
15:25 olas it was dirty before, I know
15:25 olas but I have fixeed that
15:25 egonw then the CML people, nor I will be able to help
15:25 egonw the missing file is in the net.bioclipse.cml jar
15:25 egonw period
15:25 olas who depends on net.bc.cml?
15:25 egonw that jonalv system cannot find it, has then nothing to do wtih CDK/CML
15:26 jonalv egonw: I was able to fix it by switching classloader to the one used by cdk before but now that fix doesnät work some reason
15:26 shk3 couldn't we update the jumbo in cdk1.0?
15:26 shk3 I depend on net.bc.cml
15:26 * olas sees no dep to net.bc.cml currenlty in any plugin
15:26 shk3 spectrum
15:26 shk3 and specmol
15:26 shk3 at least
15:27 jonalv *for soem reason
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16:32 jonalv hi
16:32 jonalv :)
16:36 olas ?
16:37 jonalv olas: I think it's the logging bot...
16:37 olas oh :-)
16:37 * olas will have to leave soon
16:40 CIA-30 bioclipse: ospjuth * r6878 /bioclipse2/trunk/features/net.bioclips​e.chemoinformatics-feature/feature.xml: Added dep to feature patch.
16:40 CIA-30 bioclipse: ospjuth * r6879 /bioclipse2/trunk/bioclipse-updatesite/site.xml: Updated vers to update site.
16:41 edrin Well, I don't think there is any question about it. It can only be attributable to human error. This sort of thing has cropped up before and it has always been due to human error.
16:41 * edrin leaves too
16:42 edrin olas: maybe you will have time to ready my mail
16:42 edrin cu maybe tomorrow or in two weeks
16:42 edrin ciao
16:42 * edrin leaves
16:42 olas edrin: will do so
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19:14 edrin joined #bioclipse
19:14 edrin hi aga
19:14 edrin in
19:14 edrin olas, still here :)?
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22:13 edrin hi m4r1in
22:13 m4r1in Hi edrin
22:13 edrin where are you from?
22:14 m4r1in I'm from Germany (Schleswig-Holstein). And you?
22:14 edrin m�nchen
22:14 edrin biste wissenschaftler?
22:14 m4r1in Student
22:14 edrin ok
22:14 m4r1in und du?
22:15 edrin welches fach?
22:15 edrin mediziner
22:15 m4r1in Biotechnologie
22:15 edrin welches semester?
22:15 m4r1in drittes
22:15 edrin ok
22:16 edrin warum m4r1in und nicht martin? als nick?
22:17 edrin programmierst du in java eclipse?
22:19 m4r1in Wir haben erstes Semester Anwendungsentwicklung in Java gehabt, da bin ich dann in Java reingerutscht und irgendwie bis jetzt dabei geblieben...
22:19 edrin ok
22:20 edrin und woher kennst du bioclipse ?
22:22 edrin ich muss jetzt mal dann schlafen, cu...
22:22 m4r1in Gute Frage :o) Genaugenommen durch Zufall drauf gestoßen und fand es ziemlich interessant
22:32 olas m4rlin: let us know if we can assist you with getting into bioclipse
22:32 olas we're always willing to help
22:32 * olas is going to sleep
22:32 olas cu tomorrow
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