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IRC log for #bioclipse, 2008-10-10

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07:23 CIA-30 bioclipse: carl_masak * r7272 /bot/trunk/zarah.pl: [zarah] more fiddling with proper handling of current tasks and autovivification
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08:00 CIA-30 bioclipse: carl_masak * r7273 /bot/trunk/zarah.pl: [zarah] simplified hash key move
08:07 masak @update
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08:49 jonalv hi
08:49 zarah hi jonalv
08:51 masak hi jonalv
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09:11 olas moin
09:11 zarah hi olas
09:11 jonalv olas: hi
09:13 edrin hi
09:13 zarah hi edrin
09:14 olas hi edrin
09:14 olas got your mail
09:14 olas will respond after 13
09:14 olas got a deadline :-(
09:15 edrin jo
09:15 edrin no prob
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10:15 olas egonw: ping us 20 mins before lunch
10:15 olas so jonalv can run off to the store
10:15 olas also let me know when you want proofreading
10:20 egonw proof reading in 10 minutes
10:24 olas ok
10:34 egonw OK, done
10:36 masak egonw++ olas++
10:54 * jonalv has food now
10:54 * masak iz hungry!
10:59 masak & lunch
11:57 olas egonw: you have time for a talk now?
11:57 olas my offic ehas coffee...
11:57 egonw yes, my room?
11:57 olas coffee is here...
11:58 olas and I want to show you things on my comp
11:58 egonw "Adding Benny Hill makes anything funny"
11:58 egonw http://www.boingboing.net/2008/​10/08/adding-the-benny-hil.html
11:58 zarah egonw's link is also http://tinyurl.com/4ynqye
11:58 egonw and so it does :)
11:58 egonw olas: ok... five minutes...
11:58 olas coffee is already done
11:59 olas lol
11:59 egonw http://dev.eclipse.org/blogs/wayne/2​008/10/04/presentations-in-eclipse/
11:59 zarah egonw's link is also http://tinyurl.com/4985zp
12:01 olas egonw: your coffee is getting cold...
12:02 egonw ok, ok
12:02 egonw you got a spare UTP cable?
12:02 egonw ready?
12:03 olas Under The Palmtree cable?
12:03 olas is that a wirelass cable?
12:03 olas wireless
12:04 egonw STP is fine too
12:04 olas Sitting under The Palm tree ?
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12:10 masak olas, egonw_, jonalv: found the reference I mentioned during lunch: http://www.metafilter.com/27098/Susp​ected-terrorist-removed-from-flight
12:10 zarah masak's link is also http://tinyurl.com/4ylyjn
12:19 * masak is reading the source for the Java String class
12:19 masak interesting stuff.
12:20 gilleain Really? Sounds a bit dry :)
12:20 masak gilleain: you'd be surprised
12:21 masak whoever wrote this knows how to write excellent Java
12:21 gilleain Suprise me!
12:21 gilleain :)
12:21 gilleain Maybe I should take a look.
12:21 masak gilleain: http://www.docjar.com/html/ap​i/java/lang/String.java.html
12:21 zarah masak's link is also http://tinyurl.com/4lxu86
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12:24 gilleain I should really download and attach the source in eclipse, so that I can drill down if necessary.
12:29 jonalv gilleain: you don\t need to download String source. it's already there :)
12:29 gilleain Well, I should attach it then.
12:29 jonalv at least I had it if I pressed F3 on String...
12:30 gilleain Ah, I don't.
12:30 jonalv strange
12:30 masak jonalv++ # me too, I realized!
12:31 gilleain I blame windows...
12:31 egonw I guess it depends on whether you have a JDK or a JRE installed
12:31 egonw I sometimes have it, sometimes not
12:31 egonw (I switch JDK/JDE every now and then)
12:31 masak egonw: why would anyone choose JRE over JDK?
12:33 masak any developer, I mean. I thought JRE was for people who don't write code.
12:33 gilleain Maybe I selected the wrong option when downloading eclipse...
12:34 masak ah, the "I don't want the cool stuff" option...
12:34 gilleain Yes, the "make my life harder" option.
12:34 masak aye.
12:45 gilleain Huh. If you needed more light reading, this blog:
12:45 gilleain http://blogs.sun.com/abuckley/
12:45 zarah gilleain's link is also http://tinyurl.com/482599
12:46 gilleain is about java language features : modules! named parameters!
12:48 masak named params in Java? interesting.
12:48 gilleain interesting, yes. but my first thought was "welcome to the 21st century" :)
12:49 masak indeed
12:49 masak or mid-90's even.
12:50 masak "I get secret satisfaction when bad ideas take hold and suck a lot of people in it ... like Java. (just teasing)" -- Donald Knuth
12:50 gilleain :)
12:53 jonalv shk3: I just had a look at the cml manager
12:54 * jonalv realised that he _really_ needs to write up that wiki page about how managers needs to look in order to fully work... :)
12:58 gilleain I will never write java as elegant as a line I once wrote in python that was, effectively:
12:59 gilleain instance = classDictionary["classname"](*params)
12:59 jonalv egonw, shk3, olas, gilleain + whoever else has been using net.bioclipse.springBasedProrypePlugin: I just realised that the context.xml in that plugin doesn't contain the createJobAdvice.
12:59 gilleain createJobAdvice?
13:00 jonalv yea it's the advice that reads the @Job annotation and create jobs for methods that has that advice
13:00 jonalv masak: Can you assist with your script-fu?
13:01 gilleain Ooo-kay. What is an "advice"?
13:01 masak jonalv: I can try. but it's not as strong as you seem to think.
13:01 masak :)
13:01 masak jonalv: you take that one.
13:01 jonalv gilleain: uhm where to start?
13:01 jonalv gilleain: Have you heard of AOP?
13:01 gilleain Ah. Yes, yes I have.
13:02 jonalv gilleain: Do you want the long or the short explanaition?
13:02 gilleain Pointcuts and so on.
13:02 gilleain Shall I just re-read up about AOP.
13:02 gilleain ?
13:02 jonalv sounds like a plan :)
13:02 masak gilleain: pointcuts and advice are closely connected.
13:03 jonalv yea pointcuts are the places that advices can be applied at
13:03 masak aye.
13:03 gilleain I'm wiki-ing it up.
13:23 masak CIA-30: you come back here!
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13:34 jonalv egonw: try now
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13:38 egonw jonalv: thanx!
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15:54 jonalv hi edrin
15:54 masak hi edrin
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