Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2008-11-01

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08:19 egonw joined #bioclipse
12:11 edrin joined #bioclipse
12:11 edrin hi
12:11 zarah hi edrin
12:11 edrin hi egonw
12:12 egonw hi edrin
12:13 egonw was just about to have lunch
12:13 egonw will be back in some 30 minutes
12:13 edrin ok
12:44 egonw back
13:26 edrin me too
13:26 edrin egonw
13:26 edrin are you playing with taverna?
13:27 egonw no, really busy finishing something else now...
13:27 egonw but will do next week I think...
13:27 egonw integration into Taverna would be good for the paper
13:27 edrin yes
13:27 egonw and with your libs, it should not be undoable either
13:27 edrin that would be a big advance
13:29 edrin what'll be the topic of the embrace grid meeting next week you are attending?
13:30 egonw http://teacher.bmc.uu.se/webs​ervicesworkshop/Welcome.html
13:30 zarah egonw's link is also http://tinyurl.com/55yyqn
13:31 edrin ah nice
14:07 edrin egonw: I added your account for jabber
14:07 edrin egonw@ws1.bmc.uu.se is this correct?
14:07 edrin can you authorize me?
14:11 egonw what do you mean?
14:12 egonw you can create your own account, not?
14:13 edrin yes, i can
14:13 edrin but I requested your authorisation to see you online...
14:13 egonw ah... :)
14:14 egonw btw, should @jabber.org accounts also work on ws1?
14:15 edrin if you ment to login with @jabber.org account in ws1 server no, if ment to discover /use services of ws1 yes
14:15 egonw ah, you sort of can... that is, I see your jabber.org account show up
14:15 edrin thanks
14:15 edrin yes :)
14:16 egonw how did you get your jabber.org account there too?
14:16 edrin but i think ws1 ejabberd is configured to allow access to the local components only to local users..
14:16 edrin egonw: edrin@jabber.org <-> jabber.org <-> ws1 <-> egonw@ws1
14:17 edrin server to server... no problem :)
14:17 edrin hehe
14:18 edrin egonw: if you want to add a user of another server to your contact list, just enter the JID of him...
14:18 edrin servers will take care of this
14:19 egonw ic
14:19 egonw did you see the ws-xmpp ML discussion on server balancing...
14:19 egonw can we with io-data also do this?
14:19 egonw have components mirrored?
14:19 edrin and your server will only publish your presence to servers/users you authorized in your contact list
14:19 edrin egonw: yes, io-data can do this, too
14:20 egonw really?! that's amazing...
14:20 egonw it can do this now?
14:20 edrin egonw: for example i was testing the xws.ayena.de webservices always with my jabber.org account
14:20 egonw how do I configure things to make ejabberd to know they are the same?
14:20 egonw edrin: very good :)
14:21 edrin they are the same?
14:21 egonw edrin: that means the service is available to any 'jabber' server?
14:21 edrin ah
14:21 egonw ok, two threads now...
14:21 egonw 1. webservice component: instance1, instance2, ....
14:22 egonw 2. webservice component on ws1 is visible on from 'jabber' server, such as jabber.org
14:22 egonw ad1: how does the ejabberd daemon know the two (or X) component instances are the same webservice, just running on different machines?
14:22 edrin unfortuantely it seems the currently ws1 ejabberd was configured to allow access to the xws components only to local users. to change this you must edit ejabberd.cfg to give access to users from other jabber servers
14:23 egonw edrin: ok, for now, I thikn this makes sense :)
14:23 egonw ah, no
14:23 egonw it does not...
14:23 egonw because anyone can make a local account on ws1 anyway, right?
14:23 edrin yes
14:23 edrin of course you could disable this, too
14:24 edrin egonw: regarding 1) i read your email to ws-xmpp. however i dont know much about the ejabberd cluster feature...
14:25 egonw but this would be a major selling point
14:26 egonw plugin in service power as you need it :)
14:26 egonw I *really* like that
14:26 edrin maybe it would be possible to have serverinstance1<-tcp->componentinstance1; serverinstance2<-tcp->componentinstance2 and the server routs stuff by attributing user IDs to server instances. but in fact i have no clue and this is just "no clue" :)
14:27 edrin but ejabberd and most other xmpp servers allow clustering
14:27 edrin this i know
14:28 edrin egonw: found it:
14:28 edrin http://www.process-one.net/docs​/ejabberd/guide_en.html#htoc79
14:28 zarah edrin's link is also http://tinyurl.com/yvmzyv
14:29 edrin egonw: i guess it should be possible to do this
14:30 edrin you can attribute JIDs to different component instances using specifying certain domain_balancing rules
14:31 edrin bare_source: the bare JID (without resource) of the packet from attribute is used
14:32 edrin interesting
14:32 edrin i did nt know
14:32 egonw ok, doesn't seem to be too hard
14:32 egonw ok, I'll get back on this
14:32 egonw as said... other urgent matters require my attention right now
14:33 edrin egonw: should we create or prepare a xws sourceforge project for dumping docu & stuff?
14:33 egonw it does not quite seem to be live plugging in of extra power, but interesting nevertheless
14:33 egonw yes, I thikn that would be good
14:33 egonw please pick whatever service you like most..
14:33 egonw does not necessarily have to be SF
14:34 edrin live plugging in of extra power <- i think it is, can add stuff at runtime
14:34 egonw though it is still a very good deal they offer
14:34 egonw edrin: actually... you *did* mention configuring ejabberd via xmpp...
14:34 edrin egonw: do you
14:34 edrin like other services more?
14:34 egonw no, I don't
14:34 egonw perfectly happy with SF
14:35 edrin egonw: you can config ejabberd with adhoc from psi and also via http config site via webbrowser at runtime. but there is
14:36 edrin a strange thing with "where these changes are saved"
14:36 egonw meaning, you might loose them upon reboot?
14:36 edrin i think i once saw a button in ejabberd http config where you could plugin another server to cluster
14:37 edrin egonw: maybe but not sure about this... i think one would have to read the manual
14:41 egonw anyway... sounds really promosing...
14:41 egonw got to go offline for a while, to take care of kids
14:41 egonw bbl
14:41 edrin bye
17:44 CIA-52 bioclipse: miguelrojasch * r7526 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioc​lipse.cdk10/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF: Introduce in cdk10 the dependence org.openscience.cdk.structgen needed in SENECA project
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18:50 CIA-52 bioclipse: miguelrojasch * r7527 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioc​lipse.cdk10/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF: reverted to 7491 because it could mix CDK1.0 with CDK1.2
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