Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2009-06-24

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06:57 egonw @tell olass I strongly suggest a branch after RC3, to ensure that no new functionality sneaks in, and you have strong control on what patches go in in general
06:57 zarah Consider it noted.
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07:25 * egonw is downloading Eclipse 3.5 with torrrents
07:25 egonw increadably slow :)
07:26 egonw but in a niche: linux 64 bit
07:28 egonw and the one and only seed is offline :(
07:35 Gpox which one is you downloading? Eclipse Classic?
07:35 zarah Gpox: You have new messages. Write '/msg zarah @messages' to read them.
07:35 egonw eclipse rcp
07:35 olass @msg
07:36 zarah olass: 38 m 33 s ago, egonw said I strongly suggest a branch after RC3, to ensure that no new functionality sneaks in, and you have strong control on what patches go in in general
07:36 egonw will have to install additional plugins later anyway
07:36 olass egonw: sounds like a good idea
07:36 olass an svn branch that is
07:36 olass (I assume)
07:36 olass uploaded RC3 during the night
07:36 olass will put it online now and upload update sites
07:36 mgerlich hi all
07:36 mgerlich http://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/ec​lipse/technology/epp/downloads/release/galileo/​R/eclipse-jee-galileo-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
07:37 zarah mgerlich's link is also http://tinyurl.com/lae47e
07:37 mgerlich this is a german link to galileo - not a torrent :)
07:37 mgerlich should be faster
07:38 egonw yes, I'm sure it is...
07:38 egonw I just like the bittorrent concept
07:38 egonw better for the environment
07:38 egonw olass++
07:38 egonw olass: yes, SVN branch
07:38 egonw moving to git will take some more effort
07:39 olass indeed
07:39 egonw as we will want a single git repository for each feature
07:39 mgerlich yes - but our firewall prohibits torrents...
07:39 egonw mgerlich: :(
07:39 egonw mgerlich: that's stupid... I guess because it was used it for illegal content too?
07:39 olass egonw: in what way are torrents better for the environment?
07:40 mgerlich dunno
07:40 egonw the content gets distributed over a smaller distance
07:40 egonw (well, theoretically)
07:40 egonw so, less routing needed
07:40 egonw less energy
07:40 egonw less internet cables
07:40 * olass is not so sure
07:41 olass is there a physical proof for this?
07:41 egonw as said... theoretically
07:41 olass right
07:41 egonw my current (4) peers are in: austria, US, Fr and NL
07:41 egonw but
07:41 olass if you had one peer in europe, that would be 1/4 of the energy
07:41 egonw 90% came from france
07:42 egonw only 5% from US
07:42 egonw but then again
07:42 egonw this german mirror would have done the same :)
07:43 egonw anyway, in due time, torrents will be as popular for legal content as it is for illegal content...
07:48 olass http://bioclipse.blogspot.com/2009/06/​bioclipse-20-release-candidate-3.html
07:48 zarah olass's link is also http://tinyurl.com/njexwe
07:48 olass mac carbon x86 is still uploading
07:54 egonw ha, a peer in sweden :)
08:00 Gpox yeah I thought i help out, got 100mbit just sitting here might as well put it to some use
08:00 egonw :)
08:00 egonw Gpox++
08:01 egonw now we are both limited by the small set of packages getting from the one seed into the swarm
08:01 egonw every now and then on of the 'leechers' gets a new package
08:01 egonw which is then directly shared over the swarm :)
08:02 egonw so, your IP is 85.227.foo.bar ?
08:04 Gpox maybe :)
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08:19 * olass has hardware problems
08:25 egonw again?
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08:37 stain_ olass: my bug! You fixed it ! :)
08:37 olass stain_: yes!
08:37 egonw :)
08:37 olass (finally)
08:37 olass stain_: it was a quite boring bug to fix
08:37 olass so did it last minute ;)
08:38 olass (hopefully not too poorly)
08:38 olass I have written so much about Bioclipse but still need to write new texts
08:38 olass you'd think it would settle, and you could just copy/paste, but oh no
08:38 olass I'm sure it's the same with Taverna
08:39 stain_ we're writing so much the problem is that it is filling up
08:39 stain_ every week something new is missing from the website
08:39 stain_ and then the problem is that it's difficult to find stuff on our website
08:39 stain_ could it be because of all those new things 'had' to add? :)
08:39 stain_ we
08:41 olass probably
09:04 shk3 egonw: do you know if miguel is on holiday?
09:04 egonw he was
09:04 egonw he is back, but likely still catching up
09:14 olass egonw: ping
09:14 egonw pong
09:14 olass if you open a mol without 2D in jcp, it is marked dirty
09:15 olass is this OK behaviour for 2.0?
09:15 egonw yes
09:15 olass ok
09:15 egonw because it changed the 2D coordinates
09:15 olass personally I find it a bit annoying
09:15 olass if I just want to look at the mol and then close it, I need to click "no"
09:16 egonw I see your point
09:16 egonw you need a viewer
09:16 egonw not an editor
09:21 olass I'd like the Quick Look in Mac ;)
09:21 olass selecting and pressing space opens up a "quick look dialog"
09:21 olass will file a bug about that
09:21 olass for 2.1
09:22 olass Gpox: found a nasty JCP bug. Filed as 1356.
09:31 egonw @pz 1356
09:31 zarah http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/cgi-bi​n/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1356
09:45 olass egonw: can you reproduce?
09:46 olass I think this has to do with CDK coordinate generation
09:46 olass but could also be a threading issue
09:46 egonw will try
09:48 egonw let me know when you are ready for a branch
09:48 egonw though that will likely require you to reset up things in your eclipse
09:50 Gpox Saving the bad verapamil to cml i have this line
09:50 Gpox <atom id="a22" elementType="N" x2="NaN" y2="NaN" formalCharge="0" hydrogenCount="0" isotopeNumber="14"/>
09:52 egonw yeah, CDK bug
09:52 egonw will file a bug report
09:53 egonw really nasty one
09:54 olass Gpox: and 1358 is an SDF editor bug
09:55 * olass is really not hunting bugs but glad he finds them anyway
09:55 olass Gpox: what decides which columns should be visible when opening an SDFile?
09:56 Gpox the 10 first it encounters
09:56 olass hmm
09:56 olass then there is a bug there too
09:56 olass ah
09:56 olass maybe not
09:59 * olass is getting weird errors here
10:02 olass Gpox: bug 1359 seems to have appeared recently, which is strange. I am quite sure I tested this recently.
10:08 CIA-54 bioclipse: shk3 * r11502 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.biocl​ipse.spectrum/src/net/bioclipse/spe​ctrum/editor/SpectrumEditor.java: removed system.outs
10:20 CIA-54 bioclipse: shk3 * r11503 /bioclipse2/trunk/ (7 files in 7 dirs): doing speclipse rc3
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12:14 CIA-54 bioclipse: goglepox * r11504 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.cdk.u​i.sdfeditor/src/net/bioclipse/cdk/ui/sdfedito​r/editor/MultiPageMoleculesEditorPart.java:
12:14 CIA-54 bioclipse: Only save molecule if it has changed
12:14 CIA-54 bioclipse: Solves bug #1358
12:14 zarah bug #1358 | http://tinyurl.com/n3s4ue
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12:46 shk3 nice bc2 splash screen in rc3, btw
12:47 masak shk3: yes, jonalv++ did it on a whim.
13:26 olass egonw: ping
13:26 egonw pong
13:26 olass egonw: did you update the default highlight radius, and if so, to what?
13:26 egonw no, did not
13:26 olass :(
13:26 egonw no clue what would be good on windows
13:27 olass egonw: it is not a windows issue, it is a scren dimension issue
13:27 olass egonw: where do I set it?
13:27 egonw someone was going to look at that...
13:27 * olass better do it himself
13:27 egonw RendererModel
13:27 olass what line is the default setting?
13:28 olass egonw: should that not be in a preferenceinitializer somewhere?
13:28 egonw could, not should, I would say
13:29 olass egonw: what line is the default setting?
13:29 olass I cannot find it
13:29 egonw not sure...
13:29 egonw ask Arvid
13:29 olass ?
13:29 olass Gpox: where is thepreference for SetHighlightRadius for JCP set?
13:30 olass ah, will file a bug
13:30 olass *grmf*
13:30 * olass already wrote this once
13:30 Gpox RendererModel where all the other preferences are set
13:31 egonw RendereingParameters in this case, not?
13:31 egonw is this selectionRadius ?
13:31 olass ok, found it
13:31 egonw line 130 ?
13:31 olass no
13:31 olass private double highlightDistance = 8;
13:32 olass updating to 14
13:32 egonw sure?
13:32 olass ok with you?
13:32 egonw I think that is the distance up to which you can select things
13:32 egonw JavaDoc:
13:32 olass egonw: if you don't trust me, try for yourself
13:32 egonw "The maximum distance on the screen the mouse pointer has to be to highlight an element"
13:32 olass yes, they are the same
13:33 egonw they should not
13:33 olass then please file a bug
13:33 egonw following the docs...
13:33 egonw bla...
13:33 olass it sets the radious of the ring when hovering
13:33 egonw I really need to sit down with Gpox for that further clean up of controller code...
13:33 olass it also defines the radius for external highligting
13:33 egonw we'll work out these things too
13:34 olass for now, I am setting to 14
13:34 olass ok?
13:34 egonw yes, but highlighDistance is about when the hover should work
13:34 egonw how close you are to something
13:34 egonw not about some rendering size
13:34 olass egonw: are you ok with me changing it to 14?
13:34 egonw but about mouse/hover props
13:35 olass (that is a yes/no question)
13:35 olass if no, should I file a bug?
13:35 egonw can't say... would need to test that
13:35 olass ok, will file a bug
13:40 olass egonw: bug 1360
13:40 egonw ok
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14:11 olass hi steinbeck
14:17 masak hi steinbeck
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16:01 olass brb
16:03 egonw bbl
16:03 egonw dinner
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17:20 olass hrm
17:38 egonw back from lunch
17:38 egonw make that dinner
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19:03 CIA-54 bioclipse: egonw * r11505 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.cdk​.jchempaint/src/net/bioclipse/cdk/jchempain​t/preferences/PreferenceInitializer.java: Overwrite the RenderingParameters default of 8 by 4 in the JCP preference page defaults (fixes #1360)
19:03 zarah bug #1360 | http://tinyurl.com/nveklp
20:21 olass egonw: I hope that should be 14 in the commit msg, right?
20:21 egonw yes, see comment in bug report :)
20:21 olass ack
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21:03 olass steinbeck: working late?
21:03 * olass is going to bed soon

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