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IRC log for #bioclipse, 2009-10-08

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07:26 egonw moin
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08:27 stain mornings
08:28 samuell Morning!
08:29 samuell I got a question: How do you guys download Eclipse? Downable package from http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/, or source code, and what version?
08:29 zarah samuell's link is also http://tinyurl.com/yasmb7y
08:32 egonw download package
08:34 samuell Is there specific functionality in "Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers" that would be needed, or will the "Classic" or  "for Java development" suffice?
08:38 egonw you need the RCP flavor
08:39 samuell Ok, thanks
08:45 edrin samuell: I was always downloading the classic
08:45 edrin i think it has all
08:45 samuell Ok, hmm
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10:03 samuell Arghh... can't find that "apache commons codec" feature again.
10:04 samuell (Setting up the dev environment anew because of new computer + wants to document exactly how to set up)
10:04 samuell filtering for apache in "Install new features" doesn't yield that one.
10:04 samuell Have forgot how I found it last time.
10:06 * egonw is trying to figure out...
10:07 egonw good one...
10:07 egonw not sure
10:07 egonw let's see if we can put xmlindex to business
10:08 egonw deepgrep I mean
10:12 egonw samuell, try this:
10:12 egonw cd /usr/local/eclipse3.5; deepgrep apache.commons.codec features
10:13 egonw replace the cd with your location
10:13 egonw at least gives some hints
10:13 egonw it seems to come with the Mylyn feature
10:13 samuell Ok, but deepgrep seems to be a kde only package
10:14 samuell but maybe grep -r will do
10:14 egonw no, that won't go into the jars
10:14 samuell ah
10:14 egonw as nicely as deepgrep does...
10:14 egonw file a bug report against Ubuntu
10:14 egonw to allow installing deepgrep as separate package
10:14 egonw instead of pulling in kdelibs
10:15 egonw ah, no
10:15 egonw it does not depend on kde deps
10:15 egonw install strigi-utils
10:21 samuell Ok
10:21 samuell thanks! Willl now try deepgrepping.
10:31 samuell What info should I look for?
10:32 samuell ...that will tell me how to download it?
10:34 samuell BTW, this problem might be specific for Eclipse Galileo, right? (Screenshots on the wiki are for Eclipse Ganymede)
10:44 CIA-51 bioclipse: egonw * r11733 /bioclipse2/trunk/features/ne​t.bioclipse.metware_feature/: Moved to http://github.com/egonw/bioclipse.metabolomics
10:44 zarah CIA-51's link is also http://tinyurl.com/y9lh6yp
10:46 CIA-51 bioclipse: egonw * r11734 /bioclipse2/trunk/externals/org.metware/: Moved to http://github.com/egonw/bioclipse.metabolomics
10:46 zarah CIA-51's link is also http://tinyurl.com/y9lh6yp
10:53 CIA-51 bioclipse: egonw * r11735 /bioclipse2/trunk/plugins/net.bioclipse.metware/: Moved to http://github.com/egonw/bioclipse.metabolomics
10:53 zarah CIA-51's link is also http://tinyurl.com/y9lh6yp
10:53 egonw samuell: were you using drupal?
10:54 egonw http://friendfeed.com/semantic-web/11d34f​06/rdfa-in-drupal-examples-and-use-cases
10:54 zarah egonw's link is also http://tinyurl.com/ybkc78l
10:56 samuell Yes, I am (using Drupal)
10:56 samuell Quite a lot even.
10:57 samuell Thanks for the link
10:57 samuell I think they will have RDFa in core in Drupal 7.
10:58 samuell But haven't got into this too much yet.
11:01 samuell Hmm, by enabling ALL sites under "available software sites" and filtering for apache, I found the apache commons codec feature.
11:01 samuell But don't know how to see from which site it's coming.
11:02 samuell The category under which it is grouped is named "Enabling features" only
11:06 samuell How annoying.
11:11 samuell Ok, found it: One has to enable the http://download.eclipse.org/tools/pdt/updates/ update site.
11:11 zarah samuell's link is also http://tinyurl.com/2q7u7h
11:11 samuell Google++
11:19 samuell No, that's not true either (continuing investigation...)
11:27 samuell It was the Ganymede update site that had to be added ( http://download.eclipse.org/releases/ganymede/ ).
11:27 zarah samuell's link is also http://tinyurl.com/yc8qgfz
11:31 samuell (Added hint to wiki: http://wiki.bioclipse.net/index.php?tit​le=Checking_out_Bioclipse_2.2#Setting_u​p_Eclipse_for_Bioclipse_2_development)
11:31 zarah samuell's link is also http://tinyurl.com/yaxkhfy
12:54 masak I'm now creating a branch '2.2-releng' in bioclipse.core, where all my bugfixes for 2.2 will go.
12:54 masak I've already done the same for bioclipse.bioinformatics
13:01 samuell egonw: After installing the Bioclipse SDK via the update site, it is supposed to create a new entry somewhere under "File > New > Other", right?
13:01 egonw not anymore
13:01 egonw see my blog
13:01 egonw now goes via:
13:01 egonw File > New > Project
13:01 samuell Oh, Ok
13:03 samuell Thanks
13:30 samuell Ok. Finally fit for fight for plugin development again. (Documented how to get there, from scratch: http://saml.rilspace.com/content/plugin​-development-for-bioclipse-from-scratch )
13:30 * samuell goes for lunch/dinner
13:30 zarah samuell's link is also http://tinyurl.com/y9tma9w
13:30 egonw samuell: tagget planetbioclipse ?
13:30 samuell I can fix that yes
13:30 egonw oops... access denied
13:31 samuell Oops
13:31 samuell Thx
13:31 samuell Fixed
13:31 samuell now
13:32 egonw confirmed
13:32 egonw bug closed
13:33 samuell :)
13:34 samuell Ok. So going for dinner now. brb
13:39 egonw samuell++ (for the great howto!)
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14:03 CIA-51 bioclipse.core: Carl Masak 2.2-releng * rce77daf / plugins/net.bioclipse.scripting.ui/src/net/bi​oclipse/scripting/ui/views/JsConsoleView.java :
14:03 CIA-51 bioclipse.core: [JsConsoleView] help cmd can now say 'not found'
14:03 CIA-51 bioclipse.core: Fixes #1441. - http://bit.ly/17mCzV
14:03 zarah bug #1441 | http://tinyurl.com/yc5orzp
14:17 samuell egonw: thanks
14:17 egonw btw, your first 'cd' has a ... to much
14:24 samuell Ok, will check
14:25 samuell yeah, well, it was intended not as a "go up on level", but rather as a "path to the folder"
14:25 egonw ah
14:25 samuell I should make that more clear...
14:25 egonw ./foo
14:25 egonw umm
14:25 egonw cd .
14:26 samuell Ok, so changed to "cd [your-specific-location-of-eclip​se-workspaces]/bioclipse-master" :)
14:29 samuell Added link to development articles on the wiki as well.
14:30 samuell There is much that could be done to improve the structure of the wiki...
14:30 samuell E.g:
14:30 samuell adding a standardized template for how-tos, that specifies for which version of Bioclipse it applies et.c. (the template can auto-categorize e.t.c)
14:31 samuell Furthermore there could be separate namespaces (or semi-namespaces) for "Snippets" et.c.
14:31 samuell (Real namespaces enable search restricted to that namespace only)
14:32 samuell And in general some categorization.
14:32 samuell I'd be happy to start doing this kind of stuff, if others don't feel to bothered?
14:32 samuell (It's a wiki, so you could always edit my edits :) )
14:34 samuell (Not namespaces though, since It needs some changes in the settings, and requires some planning)
14:40 egonw yes, the wiki is a mess...
14:40 egonw we know that
15:12 samuell It can easily be improved. Example: http://wiki.bioclipse.net/index.php​?title=Getting_started_with_Eclipse
15:12 zarah samuell's link is also http://tinyurl.com/yalffvj
15:13 samuell Done with the a small template call:
15:13 samuell {{How to|
15:13 samuell |Author=Ola
15:13 samuell |Bioclipse version=N/A
15:13 samuell |Last updated=17 Jul 2008
15:13 samuell |Tags=[[:Category:Links|Links]], [[:Category:Eclipse|Eclipse]]
15:13 samuell }}
15:13 samuell It will auto-categorize the page with "How tos by Ola", so he can find all his How Tos, and keep them updated :P
15:14 samuell et.c.
15:14 egonw samuell++
15:14 egonw I think we are going to miss you when you're done with your project
15:15 samuell No, then you will have learned to use MediaWiki templates as well :)
15:15 egonw :)
15:15 samuell I'm maintaining a list of the MW templates I create on my user page: http://wiki.bioclipse.net/i​ndex.php?title=User:Samuell
15:15 zarah samuell's link is also http://tinyurl.com/ydpa8tq
15:16 samuell Will add a short usage snippet on the template page itself (that won't get included)
15:16 egonw please do blog this
15:16 egonw with source of template and all
15:16 egonw and tag 'planet bioclipse'
15:17 samuell Ok. I'll do that when I have some more nice examples.
15:17 egonw ack
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