Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2009-11-13

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07:03 edrin moin egonw
07:03 egonw hi edrin
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08:13 egonw moin all
08:13 zarah hello egonw, you fantastic person you
08:13 egonw Gpox: I applied your patches
08:18 Gpox ok, thx
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15:17 egonw olass++
15:17 olass hi
15:17 zarah ni hao olass
15:17 * olass is happy
15:17 * olass is also on a train home
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15:23 samuell Olass: So you mean:
15:23 samuell isHappy( Olass ) :-
15:23 samuell onATrainHome( Olass ).
15:23 samuell ?
15:23 olass samuell: I mean:
15:23 olass isHappy( Olass ) :-)
15:23 samuell :)
15:24 samuell isHappy( Olass ),onATrainHome( Olass ). ?
15:24 samuell ( "," = AND )
15:25 egonw samuell: closed or open world?
15:25 olass isTired(Olass)=="very true"
15:25 samuell so... assert(isTired(Olass)).
15:25 olass no need to assert :)
15:26 samuell egonw: Hmm... good question
15:27 samuell olass: Just making sure the prolog program represents reality :)(
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15:32 samuell BTW, egonw, the NMR problem is indeed interesting... when looking into it more.
15:32 egonw I am happy to hear you like it
15:33 egonw I have not gotten around to exporting the look up tables for typical shifts for particular atom types
15:33 samuell The problem of prolog based structure prediction (based on i.e. only numbers of atoms, and a 1H spectrum) I could use as a project in another course which I have to finalize as well, so I thought I should put a little bit of work on that.
15:34 samuell Ok
15:34 egonw sounds efficient :)
15:34 egonw samuell++
15:35 egonw looking forward to the report of that
15:35 samuell Yep :) ... need to try to use time well now... have to get things finished.
15:48 samuell btw, the 13C spectra in NMRShiftDB are H-decoupled, right?
15:48 samuell So each peak belongs to one C?
15:50 egonw yes, and no
15:50 egonw yes, peaks are not splitted due to coupling with H
15:50 egonw but...
16:00 egonw yes, peaks are not splitted due to coupling with bonded hydrogen atoms
16:00 egonw but...
16:00 egonw ok, already said that... so much for multi tasking :)
16:01 egonw no, beacuse symmetrical carbons give the same shift...
16:01 egonw so that one peak may be more than one carbon
16:01 egonw so #peaks <= #carbons
16:05 samuell Ah... true
16:06 samuell So one peak for each class of equivalent C atoms.
16:06 samuell so to speak.
16:08 egonw correct
16:09 samuell Ok... will have to figure out a good reasoning strategy. I haven't really found anyone doing this with prolog before... which somehow seams to have an explanation in that Prolog uses backtracking rather than forward deduction.... so working a bit "backwards"... but I think there should be some way to come around that anyway... at least it will be illuminating to try, I guess.
16:12 samuell Anyway... that will become more clear.
16:12 samuell Time for dinner very soon
16:14 * samuell goes for dinner
16:15 samuell (or late lunch)
16:15 egonw ok
16:15 egonw samuell: I'm reading your blog with a lot of pleasure
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17:12 samuell :)
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