Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2010-08-09

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06:46 olass moin
06:46 zarah hi olass
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07:38 jonalv oh hai
07:38 zarah saluton jonalv
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07:52 * egonw is looking forward for jonalv to catch up with his inbox
07:52 egonw and see a quick bug fix release...
07:52 egonw e.g. to remove the BIRT stuff, which breaks installing updates for me
07:53 jonalv egonw: have you sent me soemthing I have not answered too? In such case I have missed it...
07:53 egonw should be reports in pelezilla
07:53 jonalv egonw: ah
07:53 egonw perhaps jonalv should be made first point of access for Bioclipse Core now
07:53 egonw instead of Ola
07:54 egonw @pz birt
07:54 zarah [2076] BIRT fails to install in 2.4 f... http://tinyurl.com/3a8kl4o
07:54 zarah [2068] bioclipse crashes on startup a... http://tinyurl.com/35zx9ad
07:54 zarah Entire list at http://tinyurl.com/34sxlek
07:54 * jonalv just made that release so Ola could go on honeymoon...
07:54 jonalv I am not sure who is going to handle next release...
07:54 egonw ah... OK...
07:54 egonw I had to impression that you were taking over...
07:55 jonalv oh
07:55 egonw as you introduced a few changes in the release process...
07:55 jonalv I did not
07:55 egonw and since you are now the developer with the most hours on bioclipse development
07:55 egonw sorry, my mistake
07:55 egonw it sort of made sense to me :)
07:55 jonalv egonw: well I am not sure, maybe you are right...
07:55 jonalv olass: ?
07:56 olass yes?
07:56 olass let's talk IRL tomorrow about all this in a meeting?
07:56 jonalv olass: oki
07:57 olass more constructive
07:57 olass jonalv: but if you could update the update-site to remove the BIRt and ds-birt features, that'd be super
07:58 olass I realize that this also removes structureDB and vscreen features
07:58 olass (at this point)
07:58 jonalv olass: have you waited for me to get back and not done that? You could have done it...
07:58 olass oh no
07:58 jonalv olass: structuredb?
07:58 olass I have been on vacation too :)
07:58 olass sorry
07:58 jonalv ah
07:58 olass I meant brunn
07:59 olass (not SDB + vscreen)
07:59 * olass mixed things up
07:59 olass brunn depends on birt AFAIK
07:59 jonalv olass: so should I jsut remove them from the update site or should we build new update site? I ahve not worked much with update sites...
08:00 olass you need to remove them from the update site and build a newbuild a new
08:00 jonalv olass: I have to change some xml for them to gone or?
08:00 olass easiest is just to rebuild the entire update site without them
08:00 olass and upload it over the previous
08:01 jonalv olass: so maybe a bug fix release?
08:01 olass that's different...
08:01 olass then you increment version numbers
08:01 olass here we just remove some repos...
08:02 jonalv oh okey
08:02 jonalv maybe we stick with just that then...
08:03 egonw yes, that would work for me
08:05 jonalv olass: so I remove those features and rebuild then. And then overwrite the old update site
08:06 olass yup
08:06 jonalv this should work...
08:10 jonalv olass: vaenta lite nu
08:10 jonalv olass: I am confused
08:10 olass ok?
08:10 jonalv olass: if I remove Birt won\t your DS stuff stop working?
08:10 jonalv sto installing even
08:10 olass only the DS.BIRT feature, which you should also remove
08:10 olass DS would still work
08:11 jonalv ah, fancy
08:11 olass :)
08:11 jonalv olass++
08:36 jonalv olass: I have changed the update site now
08:36 olass jonalv++
08:36 jonalv feel free to give it a test run...
08:36 olass well, it was a windows issue
08:37 olass here it worked before as well
08:37 jonalv o
08:37 olass hmm, egonw reported a ubuntu bug...
08:37 olass maybe he can confirm?
08:37 olass mom, will look up bug..
08:38 jonalv seems to work for me
08:38 olass great
08:38 olass really should not be a problem
08:39 egonw a ubuntu bug?
08:39 egonw don't remember that...
08:39 egonw there was the GTK issue
08:39 egonw which was present on Ubuntu but not specific too...
08:40 egonw but a ubuntu bug for 2.4?
08:40 egonw @pz ubuntu
08:40 zarah [1657] running JavaScript from script... http://tinyurl.com/yab7mlc
08:40 zarah [2074] Install better skin on bugzill... http://tinyurl.com/3x3jo8y
08:40 zarah [2075] Upgrade Pele                      http://tinyurl.com/35tj78j
08:40 zarah [2047] Bioclipse Navigator's context ... http://tinyurl.com/2ulv88o
08:40 zarah [1559] R Console does not run on Ubun... http://tinyurl.com/yjtltxv
08:40 zarah Entire list at http://tinyurl.com/yeotm44
08:40 jonalv @pz 2076
08:40 zarah http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/cgi-bi​n/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2076
08:40 egonw olass: what bug are you referring too?
08:40 olass egonw: I was referring to 2076
08:40 egonw ok, mom
08:40 olass the BIRT bug
08:40 olass please confirm and close
08:41 olass after jonalvs fix
08:41 egonw ah
08:41 egonw but that has nothing to do with Ubuntu, does it?
08:41 olass egonw: who wrote the "bioclipse.requireVersion" ?
08:41 olass did I?
08:41 jonalv olass: I did
08:41 * olass don't remember
08:41 egonw jonalv did
08:41 olass ah
08:41 jonalv olass: bug?
08:41 egonw yes
08:41 olass jonalv: 2077
08:41 egonw jonalv: I filed a report
08:42 jonalv egonw: that looks very strange...
08:57 jonalv so guyes, is new development taking place in master branches now?
09:00 egonw not for me yet
09:00 egonw there is actually a simple reason...
09:00 egonw 2.4 is the current platform
09:00 egonw and there is nothing I need yet, that is not available in 2.4
09:01 egonw so I can continue develop on top of 2.4
09:01 jonalv okey
09:01 egonw and, I have nothing myself yet, that would warrent a BC2 version bump
09:02 jonalv egonw: okey that's good to know
09:04 jonalv Gpox: ping
09:04 Gpox jonalv: pong
09:05 jonalv Gpox: are you running eclispe 3.6 now?
09:09 Gpox yes, because of the target.platform it should be no change to develop bioclipse in 3.6
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09:09 Gpox running based on 3.6 is another matter
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09:14 * egonw still sees a "Bioclipse BIRT" and a "D S Reporting" feature on the update site...
09:14 jonalv afk messing with ms office on some windows machines for lab instructions
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09:52 egonw olass, jonalv: I suggest sending an email to the mailing list, along the lines of this tweet: http://friendfeed.com/egonw/6c34916a/anyon​e-who-had-trouble-installing-bioclipse-2-4
09:52 zarah egonw's link is also http://tinyurl.com/38y994o
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10:08 egonw jonalv: really glad to see that requireVersion() is actually working properly
10:08 egonw I was using it in a script I uploaded to MyExperiment
10:08 egonw with some stuff not available in 2.4.0...
10:08 egonw now I can properly annotate that, and ensure users are not accidentally running the script in an uncapable version :)
10:08 egonw really happy with the functionality!
10:08 egonw jonalv++
10:16 olass jonalv: can you email devel acording to egonw's request?
10:16 olass you did the job and should get the credit :)
10:16 egonw and the fame and karma
10:16 egonw about karma...
10:16 egonw where's masak?
10:16 egonw still in Pisa?
10:17 egonw Florence?
10:46 * jonalv back
10:48 * jonalv is hungry now. But it's raining like crazy outside... :(
10:52 egonw same here
10:52 egonw thunder here too
10:52 egonw not too much though
10:54 egonw mmm... Eclipse 3.6 just exploded in my face... :(
10:55 jonalv huh?
10:56 jonalv so if I understand correctly both Gpox egonw has swtiched to Eclispe 3.6 now?
10:56 jonalv maybe I should too then...
10:58 egonw yes, and no
10:58 egonw because the target platform of bioclipse defines 3.5...
10:58 egonw bioclipse will use 3.5 whatever IDE version you are running
10:58 egonw but I'm booting 3.6 for CDK stuff
10:59 egonw and still doing bc 2.4 stuff in ec 3.5
10:59 egonw well... if it will not explode again
10:59 jonalv uhm okey...
10:59 * jonalv must have food
11:00 * olass is back from lunch
11:00 egonw "...
11:00 egonw no data
11:00 egonw should be lost.
11:00 egonw "
11:00 egonw :)
11:00 egonw jonalv++
11:00 * jonalv afk for food
11:00 egonw and rain
11:00 egonw ok, exit Eclipse 3.6 for CDK development
11:00 egonw as soon as I try to open the org.openscience.cdk/ folder, eclipse explodes... :(
11:12 egonw another interesting Eclipse bug: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_b​ug.cgi?format=multiple&id=320487
11:12 egonw that explains the exploding
11:12 egonw I'm so happy to run Linux
11:12 egonw and actually get to see stacktraces...
11:12 egonw those work brilliant as google queries
11:12 egonw leading quickly to workarounds
11:13 egonw now, consider a GUI-only environment...
11:13 egonw you can only give up, explaining why so many people do give up if some software does not immediately do what they want
11:13 egonw note that this bug is an interesting cross-product combination bug...
11:14 egonw deeply hidden in some core glibc call
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12:04 * jonalv is back
12:06 egonw (long lunches)++
12:08 * jonalv had reading material... :)
12:10 egonw sure ;)
12:10 egonw "I was a the other department" :)
12:10 egonw aT
12:10 * egonw like running jokes
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12:25 edrin hi all
12:25 zarah oh hai edrin
12:44 jonalv oh hai edrin
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