Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioclipse, 2010-09-27

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08:00 jonalv hi
08:01 jonalv what's the deal wit this new bugzilla thing? How can I log in? Can I log in?
08:04 olass jonalv: read egonw's mail on devel ML
08:04 olass I just answered.. please comment too if you like..
08:04 olass not a superb situation
08:04 olass but now I am happy with any solution..
08:05 jonalv yea..
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08:28 olass hi egonw
08:28 olass did you get my email regarding old bugzilla?
08:28 egonw yes
08:28 egonw just reading it...
08:29 egonw just woke up
08:29 egonw nasty cold
08:29 olass :(
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08:29 olass (nasty cold)--
08:30 olass masak: o/
08:30 egonw hi masak
08:30 masak \o
08:30 olass o^
08:31 olass (hi with broken arm)
08:40 egonw olass: http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/bugzil​la36/buglist.cgi?regetlastlist=1
08:40 egonw originally I though that all tables should autoincrement after their 'old' values
08:40 egonw but just the bug numbers is fine, of course...
08:40 jonalv egonw: regarding bug 3000 I don't know how to do that
08:41 egonw so, pelezilla 3.000 ?
08:41 egonw jonalv: sorry, wrong autoassign
08:41 egonw already reassigned to ola
08:41 jonalv + how come I get mail from that bugzilla whenI ahve not signed up yet?
08:41 egonw I have signed you up
08:41 egonw I emailed about that
08:41 egonw same for Gpox, Ola, and Carl
08:41 jonalv egonw: I did not understand that
08:42 egonw because those are the autoassigns for the modules I ported
08:42 egonw jonalv: you sounds like zarah
08:42 jonalv egonw: You sent me a zillion character string, what do I do with that?
08:42 olass egonw: do I need a new account on bugzilla36?
08:43 olass egonw: where do I find old bugzilla?
08:43 egonw jonalv: login and change it?
08:43 egonw olass: yes, see your email
08:43 jonalv egonw: I can't log in
08:43 egonw you already have a new login
08:43 egonw jonalv: mom... let me try...
08:44 olass I did not get your pwd email..
08:44 jonalv egonw: at least not with my old credentials, and neither if that string is the apssword
08:44 jonalv maybe it is something else?
09:03 egonw Gpox: can you log in on bugzilla36/ ?
09:05 Gpox no
09:06 Gpox what is the user name?
09:13 egonw bugzilla--
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09:20 egonw Gpox, jonalv: thanx for the patience... and apologies for Bugzilla being an idiot and not telling me those pwds I used were too long for it to remember... :(
09:21 jonalv egonw: np
09:22 egonw btw, you might need to upgrade Mylyn for Bugzilla 3.6 support
09:22 egonw at least I had to
09:22 egonw but it works fine otherwise
09:22 egonw the URL to use, is simply:
09:23 egonw http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/bugzilla36/
09:23 jonalv Gpox: you will fix this now, I will correct lab repports today and then you show me how to do it some day? :)
09:24 Gpox sure
09:34 * sneumann is currently struggling with a corrupt BC workspace, BC dies with !MESSAGE Widget disposed too early! :-(
09:34 sneumann So I need a new workspace and import projects.
09:34 sneumann bbl
09:39 egonw Gpox: is setting up Hudson on Pele going well?
09:39 egonw anything I can do there?
09:41 Gpox every thing runs fine except the test
09:42 egonw how about the admin module?
09:42 egonw that is, can it be put public yet?
09:42 Gpox no not yet, but I will look at it today
09:43 egonw great
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09:44 egonw masak: can you check where zarah is?
09:44 masak sure thing.
09:45 masak egonw: pele claims it wants to be rebooted.
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09:45 egonw oh...
09:47 egonw indeed... kernel update...
10:09 egonw masak: can we give zarah champagne hand out powers?
10:09 egonw much like slap
10:09 egonw zarah champagne for masak
10:10 egonw zarah: champagne for masak
10:10 zarah egonw: that was not so easy for a little bot to understand
10:10 egonw something like that?
10:16 Gpox hudson should be secure
10:17 egonw so, I no admin functionality anymore?
10:17 egonw shall I hook it up with apache then?
10:20 Gpox yes. you haz no admin
10:29 * egonw just learned there is #openbabel too
10:29 sneumann :-)
10:30 sneumann Though almost half of its attendants are CDK followers :-)
10:32 egonw right now, perhaps...
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10:53 egonw btw, anyone here how to get SSL working on a Apache install?
10:54 egonw would be nice to have all bugzilla etc traffic with https:// instead of http://
10:57 egonw sneumann: btw, you can file bug reports again:
10:57 egonw http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/bugzilla36/
10:57 egonw if that was not clear yet :)
11:00 sneumann Yes, our apache has https
11:01 sneumann which bit is missing ?
11:03 egonw no clue
11:03 egonw never done this...
11:03 egonw is this just installing a module?
11:03 egonw and how to disable http:// access?
11:03 sneumann you need a certificate first
11:04 sneumann which you could create yourself
11:04 sneumann which throws a warning the first time a user visits
11:04 sneumann before he accepted that
11:04 sneumann or get it from some vender, and I can check wich was the one
11:04 sneumann that gave out certs for free with minimal / no verification
11:05 egonw @tell ola does UU or UPPMAX do https certificates?
11:05 zarah Consider it noted.
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11:13 egonw hi samuell
11:13 samuell hi egonw
11:13 egonw I have a nasty cold...
11:13 egonw won't be at BCM today :(
11:13 samuell me too
11:13 egonw :)
11:14 samuell Seems it is that time of year :)
11:15 sneumann egonw: then you enable and configure /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ssl.conf
11:15 egonw sounds simple enough...
11:16 egonw I will talk to Ola and Jonathan about it tommorow
11:16 egonw (in person)
11:16 sneumann and enable it in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default.ssl
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12:43 edrin hi
12:43 zarah saluton edrin
12:56 edrin How are you doing in Uppsala?
13:03 egonw hi edrin
13:03 egonw making progress with Pele... :)
13:03 edrin hi egonw
13:04 egonw bugzilla is back online (twice, though)
13:04 egonw and hudson is too
13:04 edrin what is running on hudson?
13:06 egonw pele.farmbio.uu.se/hudson
13:19 samuell egonw: Btw, ever looked at mantis bugtracker? :)
13:19 egonw yes
13:19 egonw did not have good Mylyn integration
13:19 samuell Ah, Ic
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13:39 maclean Gpox : hi, can I ask a quick question about SWT and the rendering code?
13:39 Gpox sure
13:40 maclean Well, I seem to remember that the empty constructors in the generators were necessary for some reason - is that true?
13:40 maclean (like BasicBondGenerator() {} )
13:40 maclean Like reflection, or some such reason.
13:40 egonw Gpox: maclean is working on all the missing JavaDoc in renderbasic
13:42 maclean I can't find any references to "constructor" in git log, but I'm sure I saw some commit msg to do with this.
13:43 Gpox you sure it was for the generators? I use reflection for the control modules
13:43 maclean Well, both BasicAtom and BasicBond Generator have explicit empty constructors.
13:43 maclean Didn't you use reflection in the ChoiceGenerator?
13:45 maclean Well, anyway, if it /could/ be used for reflection, perhaps I'll just put that in the javadocs.
13:46 egonw if all generators must have zero-param constructors, this should be mentioned in the JavaDoc of the interface
13:46 egonw Gpox: is this the case?
13:46 maclean it may be spring that requires this, actually.
13:47 maclean "depending on what type of IoC you are going to use for that specific bean, you may need a default (empty) constructor."
13:49 Gpox I checked I useses an eclipse extension point for some generators but probably only those uniq to bioclipse
13:50 Gpox the way you have to pass them to the constructure of the Renderer makes the use in this way kinda limited
13:52 maclean Hmmm. So you're saying that a setGenerators(List<IGenerator<T>>) method would be good :)
13:52 maclean Alright. Thanks - I'll just document the existing empty constructors for now as "useful for reflection" or some such.
13:53 maclean and egonw: it doesn't sound like it's necessary to specify in the interface.
13:54 maclean If writers of new generators don't give them explicit empty constructors, then it's their fault.
13:54 egonw but shouldn't they be able to read somewhere that they are making a fault?
13:55 egonw interfaces cannot enfore the presence of empty constructors anyway...
13:55 egonw but a note in the JavaDoc could be useful, not?
13:55 egonw but I think you were already writing that, or... ?
13:56 maclean Well, I could mention it, but not say that it is absolutely necessay?
13:57 maclean Sorry, 'necessary'.
13:57 maclean I am writing javadocs, yes.
13:57 egonw 'expected' ?
13:57 egonw death penalty is a bit harsh indeed
13:58 egonw 'encouraged' perhaps?
13:58 maclean More that they can if they want the generator to be spring-able, or bean-able, or whatever it should be called.
13:59 maclean But if they don't, it will still work for actually drawing, which is what most people want :)
14:03 egonw ack
14:10 maclean tack
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15:28 egonw cool stuff: http://www.chemhacker.com/2010/09/​chemhackerstm-0-1/comment-page-1/
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