Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #bioperl, 2010-04-13

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02:34 majensen hey you bioperlers...
02:35 majensen anyone there (one there...one there.......)
02:38 majensen anyone having trouble with pubmed this evening? Not getting abstracts to appear? Error 111?
02:57 rbuels well look who wandered into the channel, who could this guy called majensen be?
02:58 * rbuels reads gsoc applications with crossed eyes
02:59 majensen oh yes, it is I, the Non-knower of Java, Ruby, and python!
02:59 majensen (and I like it like that....)
03:00 majensen dr rbuels: have you had any strangeness with pubmed this evening?
03:01 rbuels i never do much with pubmed ... but i can run a test case or two if you feed me them.
03:01 rbuels *just* for *you*
03:02 majensen you are--how shall I say-- *too* kind...
03:02 majensen I just need to see if no abstracts come up, just for me....
03:02 majensen (what do you use, btw?)
03:03 rbuels i don't look up papers, i develop software.  :-)
03:03 rbuels and i specialize in providing ... how shall I say .... a little more impetus to a wide variety of efforts
03:04 majensen I like your style
03:04 rbuels in all seriousness, since my role is primarily a software architect, i don't have much need to do much reference collecting.
03:04 majensen right,
03:05 majensen I do as little reading as possible
03:05 rbuels ;-)
03:05 majensen (unless it's other people's code, which should count 100X per natural language word)
03:07 * rbuels pokes a bit at pubmed
03:08 * majensen waits with bated breath..
03:08 rbuels yeesh, definitely a blank panel where the abstract should be
03:08 * rbuels hacks into ncbi's servers to tail the error log
03:08 deafferret bated?
03:09 rbuels sudo deafferret fix pubmed
03:09 majensen (sort of short for *a*bated -- dude!)
03:09 majensen rofl
03:09 rbuels the dude abates.
03:09 majensen hahahahah
03:09 deafferret breath?
03:09 * majensen is dyin', here
03:09 * majensen remembers why he don't irc...
03:10 rbuels oh that's cute
03:10 rbuels their exception is in the page title
03:10 majensen NICE....
03:10 majensen doh de doh, doh de doh....
03:10 rbuels what kind of weirdo puts the exception in the page title?
03:11 rbuels the oddities that must go on inside that monolith ...
03:11 * deafferret demands a broken URL
03:11 rbuels but http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16569235
03:11 rbuels deafferret: ^^^
03:11 majensen I think NCBI is really a soilent green manufacturer.
03:11 rbuels looks to me like they had their backend proxy die.
03:11 rbuels deafferret: what do you think of that diagnosis?
03:12 rbuels even now, sysadmins are laying rubber through the Baltimore streets
03:12 majensen rbuels: That's makin' sense, with the 111 code, and me with no proxy...
03:12 rbuels dodging bullets
03:13 majensen budda budda.
03:13 rbuels "What do we have here Smivens?"
03:13 deafferret backend-exception Exception from Backend: bePfetch (%23PmXmlSrv): Error+111+(Connection+refused)
03:13 majensen (you guys don't really HAVE jobs, do you?)
03:13 rbuels "Sir, looks like vm-platform-3453234 took one in the gut"
03:13 rbuels actually, i bet they don't have VMs.
03:14 rbuels i imagine ncbi as being full of ossified dudes, none younger than 50
03:14 deafferret jobs? those things I do when I'm ignoring rbuels?
03:14 majensen deafferret: that's the one
03:14 deafferret sad times
03:16 deafferret my diagnosis: Ballsed up. Banjaxed. Blown up. Bollixed. Borked. Bricked. Broked. Buggered (up). Bunged. Busted. Busticated. Casters-up mode. Clapped out. Crapped out. Cocked up. DOA. Done in. Down. Frapped out. Fried. Fucked (up). Fubar. Garfed. Gone pear-shaped. Goobered. Gronked. Horked. Hosed. Kaput. Knackered. NFG. Off the rails. On the blink. On the fritz. Pooched. Roached. Screwed. Shagged. Shot. Snafu. Stuffed. Tits up. Toast. U/S. Wedged.
03:16 rbuels Horked?
03:16 majensen Gone...pear?
03:16 rbuels Casters-up mode?
03:16 rbuels Banjaxed?!?!
03:16 majensen oh-- pear-SHAPED. I get it
03:16 deafferret get with it, grandpas
03:16 rbuels i ...  um.
03:17 majensen sonny, do you need your ears boxed?
03:17 rbuels damn, i am going to start using banjaxed.
03:17 deafferret I thought "Garfed" meant "full of lasagna"
03:17 majensen that's what you do *after* full of lasagna.
03:17 rbuels that and Casters-up mode.
03:17 deafferret or "kicking Odie"
03:17 rbuels those two are going in my vocabulary, me buckos.
03:18 rbuels you've not heard the last of those'n
03:18 majensen Bela Fleck is the best banjaxer I've ever heard.
03:18 rbuels yeah, i saw him live in Binghamton.  nearly sent me into casters-up mode.
03:19 majensen dueling banjax? dueling banjaxes? dueling banjaxim?
03:19 rbuels banjaxa?
03:19 majensen oooh-- like that.
03:20 deafferret ooo, I had forgotten the majensen autodecriment-bot
03:20 deafferret decrement?
03:20 majensen Sorry--
03:20 majensen sorry++
03:20 rbuels lol
03:20 majensen I was thinking about that just today...
03:20 rbuels i'm supposed to be checking this applications dammit
03:20 majensen (or today--)
03:20 rbuels these shenanigans are not helping.
03:20 majensen (today++ = tomorrow?)
03:21 deafferret rbuels: I checked. It's busticated.
03:21 rbuels o_O
03:21 rbuels totally banjaxed.
03:21 rbuels casters-up
03:21 majensen banjaxifico.
03:21 deafferret whee... open-bio SVN still down
03:21 rbuels wheeeee
03:21 majensen Talk about banjaxed. banjax.open-bio.org
03:22 deafferret and the Google Code repo is a lie
03:22 majensen http://www.banjax.com/
03:23 majensen Give everyone dev accounts, I say.
03:23 majensen AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
03:23 deafferret :)
03:23 rbuels wow.
03:23 rbuels the irish are the first ones i think of for first-rate engineering.
03:25 deafferret hic!
03:25 majensen sure'n I've had enuf o' this.
03:25 majensen Too the sleep unit for me--
03:26 majensen me-=1;
03:26 * deafferret bows deeply
03:26 * majensen doffs his cap to the distinguished gentlemen
03:27 majensen rbuels: thanks for sullying your monitor with pubmed for me
03:27 rbuels majensen: glad ta be of sarvice sair
03:28 majensen arrrrr. 'Nighty-nite
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03:28 rbuels actually the only real irishman i've ever known ... he was a good engineer.
03:29 * rbuels repents of his evil ways
03:29 deafferret the only one I've ever known was drunker than shit under the Eiffel Tower
03:29 rbuels well, there's a sample of 2
03:29 deafferret yup. pretty sure half of all irishmen are drunker than shit under the eiffel tower
03:31 deafferret http://blip.fm/profile/deafferret/b​lip/41260463/Busta+Rhymes%E2%80%93W​oo+Hah!!+%28Got+You+All+in+Check%29
03:32 * deafferret especially likes rbuels' blue/white star room
03:37 rbuels deafferret: did you know merlyn's in omaha?
03:37 rbuels deafferret: he just twat about it
03:38 deafferret ya, he's presenting tomorrow
03:38 rbuels at omaha.pm?
03:38 deafferret come on down (and lots of over)
03:38 deafferret yessir
03:38 rbuels about what?
03:38 deafferret your mom, and/or perl
03:38 * rbuels presents wednesday at pdx.pm
03:38 deafferret about my mom?
03:38 deafferret or perl?
03:38 rbuels um, perl.
03:38 rbuels unless your mom is a dbix::class contributor
03:39 deafferret hmm... interesting choice.
03:39 rbuels saintly woman that she is.
03:39 deafferret $wife has now plunged the bedroom into blackness. must migrate downstairs
03:42 deafferret hm... our new-wiki anti-spam strategy appears to be rooted in "not loading DNS"
03:42 deafferret also stops all those annoying edits
03:44 deafferret rbuels++ # not settling for pedestrian miracles for pdx.pm.org
03:45 rbuels nope, this is a miracle on a motorcycle.
03:45 deafferret hmm.. tivo dissapoints. time for some more netflix-on-tv Rescue Me season 2
03:46 deafferret http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/o​maha-pm/2010-April/002404.html
03:48 deafferret hmm... we'll give "Four Rooms" 20% of CPU and see what happens
04:06 deafferret umm... Madonna is in this
04:09 deafferret how do these idiotic movies end up in my queue?
04:42 rbuels this is an answer that has to come from within you, grasshopper.
04:45 deafferret 3rd room is kind of funny
04:51 deafferret lol... very funny at 1h mark
05:24 deafferret haha... very good ending
05:24 deafferret this would be a really good 25m movie
05:25 deafferret at 1h 47 it could use some chopping
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12:49 deafferret ...o.
13:45 deafferret rbuels: ironic counter-point to your presentation tonight: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/o​maha-pm/2010-April/002406.html
13:57 deafferret http://headrattle.blogspot.com/2010/04/por​tlands-marketplace-of-ideas-in-omaha.html
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16:29 Candybar anyone around?
16:29 rbuels Candybar: yep
16:30 rbuels deafferret is too probably
16:30 deafferret rbuels: no, i have better things to do  :p
16:30 Candybar hey I am the chariman of YAPC::NA 2010
16:30 deafferret Candybar++
16:30 Candybar and I was wondering if any of you were coming
16:30 rbuels ENOPURL
16:30 rbuels i'm coming
16:30 deafferret me too!
16:30 Candybar cool...
16:30 deafferret unless rbuels is
16:30 rbuels didn't sign up for a talk though ...
16:30 Candybar at one time I spammed the bioperl email list
16:31 Candybar and I wanted to do it again
16:31 deafferret http://www.bioperl.org/wiki/YAPC
16:31 Candybar do you have a majordomo/listserv I could bounce an email off of?
16:31 deafferret google bioperl-l
16:32 Candybar I am trying to get a hold of the BIOPERL professors at OSU
16:32 deafferret "BIOPERL professors" ??? boggle
16:32 rbuels o_O
16:33 rbuels Robert Buels, William R. Gates Professor of BioPerl
16:33 rbuels heh
16:33 Candybar http://www.oardc.ohio-state.edu/​mcic/genomics/bionformatics.html
16:33 Candybar - training and help with Perl, Bio-Perl and C++
16:34 deafferret so Ian Holford will be at YAPC?
16:34 deafferret presenting?
16:35 Candybar if he offered up a talk then almost 100% sure
16:36 deafferret if? I'm confused.
16:37 Candybar rob is the one incharge of talk schedules
16:37 deafferret rob as in rbuels?
16:37 rbuels nono, kinyon probably
16:37 Candybar robkinyon
16:37 Candybar yep
16:38 deafferret ah. right. ya, definately ping that "contact us" email address.  I added that URL to the bioperl wiki
16:38 deafferret see if anyone with the univ bioi is interested. that would be slick
16:38 rbuels Candybar: so you're trying to solicit more bio talks?
16:39 Candybar I am trying to make sure everyone is covered
16:39 Candybar and everyone gets something out of YAPC
16:39 deafferret I'm getting revenge on rbuels, so don't worry about me.
16:39 * deafferret shakes his /msg macro
16:39 rbuels :-)
16:39 Candybar here is the feedback that I am getting...
16:40 Candybar YAPC is at OSU?
16:40 Candybar really?
16:40 Candybar its two months away and this is not a good sign
16:40 deafferret they're just trying to confuse the paparazi
16:40 Candybar I am almost to the point of "Newspaper Ads"
16:41 deafferret the rumor I've heard is "don't panic, this happens every year"
16:41 rbuels Candybar: you might send your blastogram to the GMOD list(s) too
16:41 deafferret I assume you're in touch with past hosting leaders?
16:41 Candybar hand-in-hand
16:41 * deafferret feels bad, registers  (uh... tomorrow)
16:41 Candybar yeah mr blackwell and casey have given me an earful
16:42 rbuels yeah i should probably register too ...
16:42 rbuels heh
16:43 deafferret Candybar: I suspect shaking the Bio* tree will land you a dozen people at best. woop-dee-doo. unfortunately, YAPC Bio* has been week. Of couse this will only be my 3rd year, so I don't know much
16:43 deafferret weak
16:43 deafferret most bio* people aren't really coders, which is sad
16:43 Candybar like I said... just reaching out
16:43 rbuels and they are all insanely busy
16:43 rbuels except deafferret
16:43 deafferret and rbuels
16:43 rbuels lol
16:44 deafferret Candybar++ # if I karma him, the karma bots will come
16:44 rbuels Candybar++ # i shall built a wooden karma bot on top of this mountain to attract the great karma birds of the sky
16:45 Candybar thanks!  :)
16:45 rbuels Candybar: http://gmod.org/wiki/GMOD_Mailing_Lists
16:45 rbuels Candybar: maybe mail the GBrowse list, and the -schema list
16:48 Candybar ok well I have a lot of sponsors so far.  Is there a bio company that I could contact to round things off?
16:49 rbuels i don't have any ideas for that ...
16:49 rbuels maybe Genentech?
16:49 * rbuels finds list archive link
16:52 rbuels Candybar: this guy: http://lists.open-bio.org/pipermail​/bioperl-l/2009-August/030758.html
16:52 rbuels he likes bioperl a lot, maybe he'll know how to shake some money loose from genentech
16:53 Candybar k
17:11 Candybar ok hit all of these.  Anything else?
17:11 Candybar Oh BTW you all are going to buy a kilt right?
17:11 Candybar http://conferences.mongueurs.n​et/yn2010/wiki?node=Utilikilts
17:13 * deafferret laughs
17:16 * rbuels probably will
17:17 * deafferret won't. doesn't want any rbuels walking under his kily accidentally
17:17 rbuels lol
17:17 deafferret kilt either
17:17 rbuels (for those of you following along at home, deafferret is bigger than rbuels by approximately a factor of 2)
17:17 deafferret lol
17:17 * deafferret is a svelt 330lb. we need more precision
17:18 * rbuels is a little porky at 155
17:18 rbuels so that's not too far off
17:19 deafferret 2.1290322580645161290322580645161
17:19 rbuels well, i said  "bigger'
17:19 rbuels what's your volume?
17:19 rbuels huh, smart guy?
17:19 deafferret are you questioning my density?
17:20 rbuels no, never that.
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19:02 flu is it possible to register for BOSC without submitting an abstract?  Maybe I'm being dense but I don't see a way.
19:04 * rbuels has no clue
19:07 flu I tried the "Email Chair" link but that hasn't produced any results.
19:08 deafferret Abstract: I am coming to your conference.
19:08 flu that was my next thought as well :-)
19:12 deafferret Abstract: It appears you are not going to finish that donut.
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23:00 dnewkirk So the new "when" statement in Perl 5.12 is like an if statement without else?
23:02 dnewkirk Is it purely for syntax clarity?

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