Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #cdk, 2007-08-04

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05:19 cpyang joined #cdk
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07:10 egonw moin
07:13 carsten moin
07:15 * egonw is going to set up a SSH tunnel for SSH :)
07:24 * carsten is thinking about writing an article
07:24 carsten aka paper
07:29 egonw ah, sounds good...
07:30 egonw what journal will you aim at?
07:31 carsten that is not a scientific but a educational
07:32 carsten about how to teach 'Katalyse' in 7th grade chemistry
07:32 carsten so for ~13y old students
07:32 egonw does that matter? is it peer-reviewed?
07:32 carsten I had a quite cool concept
07:32 egonw the ACS has a journal on chemical education I think...
07:32 egonw used to browse that for some time...
07:32 carsten egonw: I never written for that journal but AFAIK I am sending it to an editor who correctst hings, sends it back, I update stuff and so on (ping-pong)
07:34 egonw ha, me is using a ssh over a ssh tunnel to synchronize his mercurial repository :)
07:35 * carsten is thinking about learning git :)
07:35 carsten and then git-svn to merge with KDEs SVN
07:35 egonw yeah, same here...
07:35 egonw mecurial is interesting though...
07:36 carsten read about it, yes.
07:36 carsten but git is much more mainstream
07:36 carsten → much more howto/hints in google :)
07:36 carsten also, I *think* more people are using it, easier to find help on IRC
07:36 egonw http://hgbook.red-bean.com/hgbook.html#hgbookch1.html
07:36 lambdabot2 Title: Distributed revision control with Mercurial
07:37 jbrefort carsten "Journal of Chemical Education" http://www.jce.divched.org
07:37 lambdabot2 Title: Journal of Chemical Education Online
07:37 egonw jbrefort: thanx :)
07:39 carsten http://www.friedrichonline.de/go/Sekundarstufe/Ze​itschriften/Naturwissenschaften/Unterricht+Chemie
07:39 lambdabot2 Title: Shop der Friedrich Verlage, http://tinyurl.com/36w85g
07:39 carsten "my" journal ^^^
07:40 * jbrefort can't read german :(
07:40 carsten very good journal, specifically made for schools
07:41 carsten so ~6th to 13th grade
07:41 carsten not for university
07:42 jbrefort we have one in France too, but I did not subscribe (too much physics, and to few chemistry for me)
07:42 jbrefort +o
07:43 * carsten isn't subscribed to this either, but his future school is
07:43 carsten jbrefort: by the way, a very cool spacegroup xml-file you posted on the list!
07:44 jbrefort yes, I'll use it to display crystal structures in gchemutils (already mostly work)
07:44 * carsten hopes jbrefort is moving as much code as possible to OpenBabel 2.2
07:44 jbrefort that's why I need accurate crystal structures descriptions for the elements in bodr
07:45 jbrefort carsten, most of the code will be in OB
07:45 egonw jbrefort: make sure to always mention which crystal polymorph it is...
07:45 egonw and give more than one if possible...
07:46 jbrefort for the elements?
07:46 egonw e.g. graphite/diamond for carbon
07:46 egonw yes, for elements
07:46 jbrefort yes, this is needed too
07:46 egonw it is confusing if you state that X is the crystal structure for an element...
07:47 egonw it should state... X is A crystal structure for ...
07:47 jbrefort of course, and I think we should store each structure in a separate file and the uris in elements.xml
07:48 jbrefort Jus I need to find the appropriate cif or cml files
07:49 jbrefort I started with hydrogen and did not find anything on the web at the moment, bad start :(
07:53 carsten avogadro is comming along nicely
07:53 carsten Geoff improved the crystallographic stuff, everything is multithreaded now
07:53 carsten the new zealand folks are improving the modelling code which is no focusing on bonds and not the atoms
07:54 carsten Marcus is doing POVray rendering
07:55 jbrefort changed the nick to jbrefort_away
08:06 Nout egonw, i'm around now for a (short) moment
08:20 egonw ah hi
08:20 egonw Nout: can you email me your plans for next week? what you'd like to implement next...
08:20 egonw and there was a screenshot I wanted to show you...
08:20 egonw about labeling molecules...
08:20 egonw mom...
08:21 egonw http://www.thermo.com/com/cda/​article/general/1,,412,00.html
08:21 lambdabot2 Title: Fragmentation Library™ Thermo Scientific
08:21 egonw there are two nice things about this screenshot:
08:22 egonw 1. the labels beneath the molecules... that's a must have (right, carsten? ;)
08:22 egonw 2. not the location of the atomic charges...
08:22 egonw unlike the current CDK renderer, which puts them on the top right location of the symbol
08:23 egonw here the put it top,below and possible left,right... I like this better
08:23 Nout hm yes this looks better
08:23 Nout the label beneath is the mass of the molecule?
08:23 egonw (3. the reaction arrows are for later, we can discuss that on thursday in amsterdam
08:23 egonw yes, in this case...
08:24 egonw but it could also be the name of the molecule
08:24 Nout ah ok
08:24 Nout noone has commented the funky colors yet at http://progz-jchem.blogspot.com/ btw :(
08:24 lambdabot2 Title: Dutch summer of code - jchempaint
08:27 egonw Nout: fixed
08:27 Nout time for me to get some breakfast fast
08:27 egonw will be away now for cycling, but back tonight for some hacking and article writing...
08:27 Nout i'm gonna run a bit in the Oosterpark with some friends
08:28 Nout have to be there in 30 min so have to hurry up *a bit* :x
08:28 egonw ok, cu later
08:28 Nout hf cycling :)
09:21 jbrefort_away changed the nick to jbrefort
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16:11 egonw moin
17:20 jbrefort hey egonw
17:21 egonw hi jbrefort
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21:42 CIA-34 jmol: nicove * r8029 /trunk/Jmol-FAH/projects/ (p2425.xyz.gz p3608.xyz.gz p3611.xyz.gz p3851.xyz.gz): Folding@Home

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