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13:59 jimi_c I built a drupal web farm this week (4 4x8 web servers, 3 memcache servers, 1 mysql db) that apparently was able to sustain ~60K req/sec - I'm pretty happy with that :)
14:00 pdurbin jimi_c: +1
14:00 pdurbin right now i'm looking at this... i think it might actually work... osx - Can I create a chat room for 3 different clients for Gtalk service? - Ask Different - http://apple.stackexchange.com/questio​ns/38870/can-i-create-a-chat-room-for-​3-different-clients-for-gtalk-service
14:01 jimi_c don't cross the streams
14:08 pdurbin :)
14:10 pdurbin ben_e: django comes up a fair amount here: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/cr​imsonfu/2012-07-26#i_5848836
14:12 pdurbin spilth: i don't think you need to prefix with devopsdays. i wouldn't bother :)
14:21 sjoeboo anyone in here use nagios a good deal?
14:23 pdurbin a bit
14:31 sjoeboo we're still having ack's get squashed when nagios is reloaded
14:31 sjoeboo super anoying
14:32 pdurbin huh. that does sound annoying :(
14:32 pdurbin i just got access to our opsview (built on nagios) yesterday
14:32 sjoeboo very, and mailing lists posts w/ similr issues seem unanswered. can't be a unsolved problem...
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15:18 pdurbin sjoeboo: let's ask shuff when he's in here
15:18 sjoeboo yeah
15:18 sjoeboo all i'm getting in #nagios is one guy saying he think its a known issue, he is a large number of versions behind, but has no links to bugs/docs
15:20 spilth https://twitter.com/patrickdeb​ois/status/292258179167948800 - "had an idea last night -how about using a markdown document with description and code blocks to describe your monitoring checks"
15:20 pdurbin spilth: huh. we should pull him in here to explain more
15:22 spilth Also: https://twitter.com/patrickdeb​ois/status/292260173941202944 - "for those who asked it yesterday during #devopsdays - he're the markdown2confluence convertor - https://github.com/jedi4ever/markdown2confluence"
15:22 spilth Okay, I've done this twice. Time to write an Twitter2IRC retweeter script
15:26 spilth [devopsdaysNYC] - Friday program is starting now
15:27 spilth https://twitter.com/botchagalupe - Kick Off Talk for Friday
15:28 spilth State of the Union 2013
15:30 spilth "I'm not doing 10 deploys a day… am I not DevOps?"
15:30 spilth "Hype goes way faster than reality"
15:31 spilth http://www.amazon.com/Antifragile-Thi​ngs-That-Gain-Disorder/dp/1400067820 - "There is no opposite word of fragile"
15:31 spilth Kaizen - a nice form of anti-fragile
15:32 spilth http://techblog.netflix.com/2012/07/​chaos-monkey-released-into-wild.html - a good example of an anti-fragile tool
15:33 spilth http://itrevolution.com/books/​phoenix-project-devops-novel/ - A novel about IT, DevOps, and helping your business win
15:34 spilth http://www.realgenekim.me/devops-cookbook/
15:34 spilth "DevOps is a professional, cultural movement."
15:35 spilth The Three ways: System Thinking, Amplify Feedback Loops and Culture of Continual Experimentation and Learning
15:35 spilth (I definitely am interested in 2 and 3)
15:36 spilth He's basically mentioning a bunch of stuff "you might want to check out"
15:40 spilth Netflix is open sourcing lots of their stuff
15:40 spilth http://netflix.github.com/
15:40 spilth Check out that landing page!
15:41 spilth http://www.amazon.com/Out-Crisis​-W-Edwards-Deming/dp/0262541157
15:41 spilth http://www.hci.com.au/hcisite2/articles/deming.htm - Demmings 14 Points
15:42 spilth http://cuddletech.com/blog/
15:42 spilth (This guy is mentioning a lot of stuff!)
15:43 spilth http://theleanstartup.com/
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15:43 spilth http://www.amazon.com/Four-Steps-Epipha​ny-Successful-Strategies/dp/0976470705
15:43 spilth http://www.amazon.com/Web-Operatio​ns-Keeping-Data-Time/dp/1449377440
15:44 spilth He says the one chapter in Web Operations on Continuous Delivery is amazing
15:44 spilth http://www.amazon.com/Start-Why-Lea​ders-Inspire-Everyone/dp/1591846447
15:45 spilth "Companies that are ridiculously successful start with Why?"
15:45 spilth Live stream is here, btw: http://new.livestream.com/devopsdaysorg/nyc2013
15:47 spilth http://paulstamatiou.com/
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15:50 spilth Next up is https://github.com/roidrage - "Failure is always an option"
15:50 spilth from Travis CI
15:51 spilth https://travis-ci.org/
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15:54 spilth http://itrevolution.com/devops-reading-list/ via https://twitter.com/RealGeneKim
15:56 spilth http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/03/boei​ng-787-passes-incredible-wing-flex-test/ - referenced when talking about being able to predict when things will break
15:57 spilth https://twitter.com/RealGeneKim is doing a nice job covering the conference on Twitter
15:57 spilth http://charlesduhigg.com/the-power-of-habit/
15:58 spilth pdurbin: am i too spammy yet? :-)
15:59 spilth Talking about ALCOA and improving their safety - http://www.fastcompany.com/1297926/w​hy-your-gut-more-ethical-your-brain
15:59 spilth accidents had to be report within a day with remediation steps - similar to post-mortems
16:03 spilth "I had to learn a lot from crashing trains."
16:04 spilth Talking about the rising popularity of public postmortems from tech companies
16:04 spilth http://aws.amazon.com/message/680587/ - Summary of the December 24, 2012 Amazon ELB Service Event in the US-East Region
16:06 spilth http://www.amazon.com/Drop-Pink-​Elephant-Ways-Mean/dp/1841126373 - 15 Ways to Say What You Mean...and Mean What You Say
16:09 spilth limited number of books on Web Operations
16:09 spilth http://pragprog.com/book/mnee/release-it
16:11 spilth more Netflix praise
16:11 spilth #hangops Google Hangout. Place for Web Ops to hang out
16:12 spilth http://hangops.com/
16:12 spilth Metioning OpSchool again: http://www.opsschool.org/
16:13 spilth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_bias
16:14 spilth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindsight_bias
16:15 ben_e http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biases <- i love that WP page
16:15 spilth I'm only interested in the biases I know...
16:16 spilth Ha ha - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_blind_spot
16:17 spilth "Who here has operations and developer blogs?"
16:18 spilth Sponsor: http://www.timgroup.com/
16:19 spilth https://github.com/youdevise/orc - Model driven orchestration framework for continuous deployment
16:19 spilth Sponsor: CatchPoint - http://www.catchpoint.com/ - Real-Time Web Performance Monitoring
16:20 spilth (They've asked us to tweet about the sponsors to help support the companies that sponsored the conference)
16:21 spilth Sponsor: XebiaLabs - http://www.xebialabs.com/ - Release Automation Tool
16:22 spilth Sponsor: Librato - https://metrics.librato.com/ - Measure Everything. Instantly.
16:22 spilth Next Up: Aaron Quint (https://twitter.com/aq) from Paperless Post - "Automate or DIE!"
16:24 spilth http://codefoodbar.org/ - code(food,bar) is a collection of foodies who happen to be coders and coders who happen to be foodies.
16:29 spilth "For us Automation is not about being lazy. It's about being efficient."
16:30 spilth "Developers get distracted, blocked, churning."
16:32 spilth "Everybody wants pre-cogs as their ops team" - http://coolkwaz.files.wordpre​ss.com/2011/09/precogs1.jpeg
16:33 spilth "notifications, one click deploys, CI, distiributed fast deploys, zero config dev env, dev metrics…"
16:37 spilth Design an API around your common tasks
16:39 spilth They build a command-line tool on top of https://github.com/wycats/thor
16:39 spilth built
16:42 spilth Switched from command-line tool to http://jenkins-ci.org/ for visibility
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16:49 spilth Their evolution of their DevTool is pretty awesome
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16:52 spilth Puppet seems to be getting more love than Chef during this conference.
16:52 spilth They use Chef but some frustrations it sounds like
16:53 spilth http://www.meetup.com/Chef-NYC/
16:54 spilth Awesome: they set up their vagrant to automatically inject their personal bashrc's so they maintain their personal alises
16:55 spilth Don't expect to build the perfect system. Build for right now, not for every team at any size.
16:55 spilth Start with a workflow then tool around it.
16:55 spilth Build what your team needs first. Then add the cool shit...
16:56 spilth https://github.com/quirkey
17:00 spilth I'm thinking about a DevOps version on http://usesthis.com/
17:01 spilth Break time
17:02 spilth version OF
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17:25 spilth Now: Leo Zhadanovsky & John Schneider: DevOps At Obama for America & The Democratic National Committee
17:26 pdurbin spilth: no, not too spammy. thanks! :)
17:31 spilth What ?s would you want to see on a #devops version of http://usethis.com ? 3rd party/internal tools? Horror/success stories? #devopsdays - https://twitter.com/spilth​/status/292322977092087808
17:38 spilth https://speakerdeck.com/aq/automate-or-die
17:47 spilth Funniest tool name - https://github.com/newsapps/beeswithmachineguns - A utility for arming (creating) many bees (micro EC2 instances) to attack (load test) targets (web applications).
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17:59 spilth Sorry, that should've bee: What ?s would you want to see on a #devops version of http://usesthis.com/ ? 3rd party/internal tools? Horror/success stories? #devopsdays
18:02 spilth Ignite Sessions now
18:02 spilth Simple Black Box
18:02 spilth https://github.com/vimeo/simple-black-box
18:08 spilth Next: Framing & Funding - DevOps in the Enterprise
18:09 spilth http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Velocit​y-Free-Companys-Future/dp/0062040898 - Escape Velocity: Free Your Company's Future from the Pull of the Past
18:11 spilth Continuous Alignment
18:14 spilth Net talk: OCD and you can too
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18:52 spilth lunch break time
19:17 raprasad way off topic: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture​/2013/01/video-the-art-of-pickpocketing.html
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19:34 pdurbin raprasad: meet ben_e, another django developer
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20:01 spilth Open Spaces starting now. I missed the pitching part. Happened 20 minutes early or something
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20:19 spilth No, somehow I was an hour late for the Open Spaces pitching
20:31 ben_e /clear
20:31 ben_e typing fail
20:32 pdurbin :)
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