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IRC log for #crimsonfu, 2013-04-19

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10:05 pdurbin "MBTA service suspended pending further notice" -- https://twitter.com/MBTATransi​tPD/status/325183370734743552
10:28 pdurbin "Update 4/19 5:52am Harvard University is closed due to public safety concerns. Please continue to watch this page for updates." -- http://www.harvard.edu/emergency
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14:30 pdurbin schools closed too. my 3 and 6 year old wanted to play mario kart so why not :)
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14:52 melodie hello :)
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14:59 pdurbin melodie: hi
15:00 melodie hi pdurbin !
15:02 pdurbin rough day. police are trying to find one of the guys responsible for the boston marathon bombings: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/201​3/04/who-is-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-boston/64382/
16:51 pdurbin I'm tweeting about the manhunt etc. at https://twitter.com/coolcorn if anyone's interested. mostly retweets
16:52 semiosis you have many identities "pdurbin"
16:53 pdurbin heh. I guess so :)
16:54 pdurbin I think of them as channels... for different audiences... that's my "hyperlocal news stream"
16:54 pdurbin that's what Jeff Jarvis calls something like that anyway
16:54 semiosis identity, channel, whats the diff
16:56 pdurbin hmm. looks like I haven't linked to this in here yet: My split personality online - http://thedurbins.com/phil/blog/2012/0​1/14/my-split-personality-online.html
16:58 semiosis nice
17:00 pdurbin the guy they're looking for goes to school a block away from my office
17:02 semiosis scary
17:05 ben_e went
17:05 ben_e he's at umass dartmouth now
17:05 ben_e or was anyway
17:06 pdurbin I've been getting emails all week from my friend who knows the guys who lost legs in the bombing. I posted about that here: https://plus.google.com/10777007​2576338242009/posts/L5Crmck7P68
17:07 pdurbin ben_e: ah. thanks
17:08 ben_e city of cambridge gave him a scholarship actually
17:09 ben_e http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/201​3/04/who-is-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-boston/64382/
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18:56 pdurbin I hope my wife gets in ok. her flight is supposed to arrive in BOS late tonight
19:21 semiosis +1
19:33 pdurbin public transportation is still shut down. I hear cabs are running again. or I could put the kids in the car and pick her up. I think roads are open, except in Watertown
19:34 pdurbin some food for thought: Was Shutting Down Boston Really a Good Idea? - The Daily Beast - http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/19/​was-shutting-down-boston-really-a-good-idea.html
19:57 melodie pdurbin I think in France they would not have forced people to stay inside, but rather enforce the security with their methods, "vigie pirate" and such
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20:04 * pdurbin looks at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigipirate
20:06 pdurbin melodie: sounds a little like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ho​meland_Security_Advisory_System , which the US phased out a few years back
20:06 pdurbin after 9/11 I think we were in constant orange for years. it was silly
20:07 pdurbin melodie: not that I'm saying France's system is silly :)
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20:51 melodie pdurbin the problem with living in sillyness is that we get used to it
20:51 melodie I wouldn't say it is sane, in fact I think it is not sane at all
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21:11 pdurbin melodie: ok
21:11 pdurbin I just read this and found it interesting: What You Need To Know About Chechnya And The Boston Bombing Suspects | ThinkProgress - http://thinkprogress.org/security/2​013/04/19/1893511/boston-chechnya/
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21:47 melodie pdurbin why do you find it interesting ?
22:22 pdurbin melodie: well, I haven't thought about Chechnya lately and I don't know a lot about it. where the attackers come from seems somewhat important... I'm completely puzzled about why they attacked innocent people
22:23 semiosis as if there were a rational explanation for such behavior.  it's because of insanity imo
22:28 pdurbin semiosis: are you done trying to understand the "why"? you chalk it up to insanity?
22:28 semiosis i dont expect to understand the why
22:30 semiosis i cant imagine any rational person committing such an atrocity, esp. against civilians
22:31 pdurbin but in some cases of terrorism, attacks against civilians, there are reasons given
22:32 semiosis no good reasons, none that i can understand
22:32 semiosis "reasons"
22:33 semiosis i'd rather call them remarks
22:33 * semiosis philosophy major
22:37 melodie pdurbin the problem I have with news related to this kind of events is around the concept of suspiciousness... suspect does not always mean involved for real, and even arrested would not be a proof either
22:38 semiosis ianal but there seems to me enough evidence available to get a conviction, if the cops catch him alive
22:39 semiosis if the news is reliable
22:39 melodie the if is always the problem
22:39 semiosis which i agree is a big assumption :)
22:40 melodie the news, the enquiry (let's say "they" would ask for "fast results", give the news "something to say, anything... ")
22:41 melodie what would be more interesting for all if they could say something about the engines which exploded, what clues did they find around them ? what was it made of ? that kind of thing ?
22:42 semiosis that's been reported
22:42 semiosis "in the news" of course
23:07 pdurbin lockdown lifted (not that they caught the guy!) ... kids are dying to go outside
23:18 melodie I would have said impatient ?
23:19 melodie what about the grown ups ? Not impatient to feel a bit free again ?
23:37 pdurbin we went for a walk. felt great
23:38 pdurbin passed a burrito place, which was closed. my six year old said, "maybe they're helping to catch the people who put the bombs at the marathon"
23:38 melodie what is a burrito place ?
23:38 melodie some stuff to eat perhaps ?
23:43 semiosis google burrito
23:43 crimsonfubot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrito
23:47 melodie thands semiosis I see
23:48 melodie pdurbin were there as many people as there are usually or much less people out compared to usually ?
23:50 ben_e sounds like they got the guy
23:51 melodie ben_e sounds ?
23:52 ben_e it sounds like he's cornered, but not clear if he's dead
23:52 ben_e and since his brother was wearing a suicide vest, the cops are being cautious
23:53 melodie :o
23:58 pdurbin melodie: it was very quiet and almost every shop was closed. very few people and cars. very different than usual.
23:59 melodie pdurbin I would have thought so
23:59 pdurbin ben_e: he's on a boat or something? but in watertown? I'm confused
23:59 semiosis thats the cambridge i remember https://twitter.com/pragmatic​ism/status/318146407846510593
23:59 semiosis (quiet, closed)

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