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00:02 JoeJulian +1
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01:36 pdurbin Falcon Pro Updates To v2.0.4 Outside Of The Play Store, Now Supports A Way To Blatantly Skirt Twitter's Token Limit - http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/07/03​/falcon-pro-updates-to-v2-0-4-outside-o​f-the-play-store-now-supports-a-way-to-​blatantly-skirt-twitters-token-limit/
02:16 pdurbin "I have a neckbearded Perl sysadmin friend who quite likes Scala, but wishes it could do one-liners better." -- http://www.evanchooly.com/​logs/%23%23java/2013-07-16
03:04 semiosis i wanted to like scala, but i just cant justify it.  java has incredible IDE support, and there's plenty of other languages on the JVM that I'd rather use than scala
03:05 semiosis but i didnt take it too far
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12:18 dotplus "can't justify [scala]"? as in can't see a reason to use it over one of the alternatives on the JVM?
12:28 pdurbin probably
12:30 pdurbin speaking of languages, I'm listening to http://theshipshow.com/2012/12/languages-du-jour/ right now. Mostly they're comparing Python, Ruby, Perl, and shell... a bit about PowerShell and Groovy
12:31 dotplus I asked $newjob for a safari subscription, so I now have more learning material than I know what to do with:)
12:32 pdurbin yeah, I have that. Now I just need more time for reading
12:33 pdurbin crimsonfubot: lucky twilight zone time enough at last
12:33 crimsonfubot pdurbin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last
12:41 * dotplus cries a little
12:42 pdurbin heh
12:43 pdurbin dotplus: be careful what you ask for ;)
12:45 dotplus why is it that so many of the Greatest Works of Art are tragic? If I had time (see what I did there?), I could point to many exmaples in Fine Art, literature, music (of most genres), drama, film, poetry and so on.
12:45 dotplus Ballet and Opera being the canonical examples where it's virtually all tragedy
12:46 pdurbin comedians say tragedy is easier than comedy
12:48 dotplus tragedy/comedy is a false dichotomy, at least in the modern sense of comedy (I believe that it was a literal, tautological dichotomy in more old-fashioned usage)
12:49 dotplus I mean where's all the happy/uplifting/positive Great Art? yes, there is some... but it's massively outweighed by all the miserable, depressing stuff (at least amongst the greatest works)
12:49 dotplus hm, just thought. Is architecture the exception?
12:53 dotplus anyway, enough waffling. must beat on @security to find out why `pip install foo` gives me 'no route to host' when my browser can access pypi.python.org
12:53 * pdurbin doesn't know a lot about pip
12:55 mhayden dotplus: can you ping/curl pypi.python.org from your server?
12:55 dotplus it's not a pip thing. pip uses urlopen. This is a proxy issue of some kind
12:55 pdurbin I'm using easy_install at https://github.com/dvn/swordpoc and it works fine. Running it now actually...
12:55 * mhayden blames PRISM :)
12:56 pdurbin lol
12:56 dotplus I'm not in *that* part of .gov, don't glare at me
12:57 pdurbin mhayden: you've probably seen this: Philip Durbin - Google+ - Brilliant NSA Pixar video via… - https://plus.google.com/10777007​2576338242009/posts/bjtaB6jN2yD
12:57 mhayden oh yeah, that's a winner
12:57 mhayden i was flooded with customer questions after the prism stuff leaked :/
12:57 mhayden and someone bought a small crystal prism and left it on my desk... wonderful
12:58 dotplus easy_install might be an option. that takes an egg and can be given an installation destination, right?
12:58 pdurbin dotplus: it's all pythonic magic to me
12:59 pdurbin the SWORDv2 reference implementation is in Python... I need to study it some more
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15:21 pdurbin added two step deposit example · c20de88 · dvn/swordpoc - https://github.com/dvn/swordpoc/commit/c20de88
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15:39 * pdurbin posts a looooong message: [sword-app-tech] POST atom entry, then PUT media resource - http://www.mail-archive.com/sword-app-t​ech@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00331.html
17:24 larsks Technology names are getting really annoying.  If I see another "Unleash the power of Hadoop with Cloudera and Platfora" in my inbox my head is going to explode.
17:31 pdurbin heh
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18:24 JoeJulian mhayden: Are you coming to OSCON?
18:36 mhayden JoeJulian: unfortunately not
18:41 JoeJulian Darn...
18:41 JoeJulian Completely missed you all over summit.
19:27 pdurbin JoeJulian: he should have come to dinner with us and semiosis
19:27 semiosis i invited him
19:28 semiosis would've been fun -- spurs vs. heat
19:28 semiosis esp for him since the spurs dominated iirc
19:34 JoeJulian Only "if"? You've been working on purging that memory? ;)
19:35 semiosis i started working on purging that memory that night
19:35 semiosis not enough beer apparently
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