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IRC log for #crimsonfu, 2016-11-04

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12:22 bene https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/ <- looks rather interesting. anyone used it?
12:41 Whoop yes, its awesome
12:42 * Whoop uses it for his personal backups
13:33 * pdurbin should investigate additional home backup solutions beyond Time Machine
13:49 dotplus I use git for code/text, with pushes to offsite repos and "weekly" rsyncs to different volumes for media library. It's kinda crappy and almost embarassingly "cobbler's children have no shoes", but it costs me no effort and it's probably good enough.
14:27 hydrajum1 bene: Whoop this looks very interesting as well https://github.com/gilbertchen/duplicacy-cli
14:28 Whoop 1 contributor responsible for my data, no thanks :)
14:28 Whoop I use borg + rsync.net/products/attic.html
14:29 hydrajum1 I've tried attic but not particularly impressed
14:29 Whoop agreed, I don't use attic - borg is a superior fork
14:30 hydrajum1 Whoop: what OS do you run borg on>
14:30 Whoop linux and osx
14:31 hydrajum1 does it work well on osx with regards to all the file metadata?
14:31 hydrajum1 I've read some backup tools miss some of it
14:31 Whoop not sure, I don't use all the osx additional metadata foo
14:31 Whoop colours etc
14:31 hydrajum1 https://github.com/n8gray/Backup-Bouncer
14:32 Whoop I actually use Arq, Backblaze and Carbon Copy Cloner too, I should probably cut down on backup tools at some point ;)
14:32 hydrajum1 hehe
14:32 Whoop Arq is purpose built for OSX, so I'd be surprised if it doesn't
14:33 bene does hfs+ still have resource forks?
14:33 hydrajum1 yes i've looked at arq a lot, but I'd prefer an open source solution and the CLI tool never gets updates to work with different AWS regions etc
14:33 bene i'm pretty sure apple has told devs to stop using them and that they were going away
14:34 hydrajum1 ah borg is a fork of attic..yeah don't like that you can't backup directly to cloud storage e.g. AWS without a server acting as a middle man
14:35 hydrajum1 so that's a big no no for me
14:35 Whoop you can, but its a bit nasty
14:35 Whoop and you lose a bunch
14:35 Whoop I use rsync.net for this reason
14:35 Whoop + my own kit
14:36 Whoop https://github.com/borgbackup/borg/issues/102 thread here
14:38 Whoop duplicacy is mentioned in that thread, apparently its not open at all
14:39 hydrajum1 yeah if you pay for a license you get the source..there have been many discussions about it not being open source and that's why I haven't tried it yet
14:39 hydrajum1 I do like what I read about it though
14:40 hydrajum1 I wish it was reviewed by someone who knows encryption to see if it is as solid as it sounds
14:41 hydrajum1 many suggest tarsnap but I don't like that solution because it depends on one person's AWS infrastructure
14:49 Whoop I like tarsnap, but the restores are horribly slow
14:50 Whoop I really like the rsync+borg option because I can restore incredibly quickly and freely due to zero bandwidth costs
14:50 Whoop so I'm not hesitent in testing my backups -- which I am when using S3 etc 'cause it costs a load of money to do a full restore
14:57 hydrajum1 Whoop: so are you using that combo to backup to cloud storage or to your own servers?
14:58 Whoop both
14:59 Whoop I backup all my data to my own servers, I backup data I really care about to rsync.net -- 'cause seperation of concerns, rsync.net under different management systems etc
16:22 semiosis pdurbin: great solution for backing up macs... get a synology nas, use time machine to backup the macs to synology, then use cloud sync app on synology to backup the whole nas to amazon cloud drive ($60/year unlimited)
16:23 semiosis i've been using that setup for the last year at home and it works great
16:26 bene i've got basically the same thing
16:27 bene timemachine to a basement server, tm images uploaded to crashplan
16:48 pdurbin cool, thanks
17:47 hydrajum1 don't trust timemachine
18:48 pdurbin The big thing is where are the family photos and videos stored and how do you back them up. Right now they're on an aging iMac and you can only get to them from my wife's login. I recently switched from iPhoto to Photos.
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23:02 pdurbin No solutions? I guess this rant still holds up: 5by5 | Hypercritical #9: No iLife is an Island - http://5by5.tv/hypercritical/9

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