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15:50 pdurbin Or is the solution to stop using Photos? I used iPhoto from the time it was announced until it was recently replaced by Photos. I've only launched Photos a couple times so maybe now would be a good time to switch. I was more or less happy with iPhoto but I don't like how only one account on the iMac has the photo library. And it's only on one computer. We're talking about having more than one Mac at home.
15:50 pdurbin His and her Macbooks or whatever. Backups are critical.
16:23 bene you can share photos between multiple macs
16:23 bene the apple way to do it is to pay for more icloud storage and store your photos there
16:25 pdurbin I don't use icloud at all.
16:25 pdurbin But it's good to know what the Apple way is.
16:25 bene if you have a mac or ios device, you use icloud already
16:25 bene you just may not know it :-)
16:26 pdurbin that's troubling
16:27 pdurbin we have an iPad too, just got it
16:29 pdurbin My preference is to understand where the files (photos and videos) are stored and to deliberately back them up to another hard drive. Backing up to the cloud as well is fine, a nice bonus.
16:31 bene http://www.imore.com/how-use-photos-os-x-multiple-macs <- the icloud method
16:31 bene you can also use the google photos apps and have it upload all your photos to google
16:31 bene that will work in conjunction with os x photos
16:33 pdurbin I'm already utterly dependent on Google for email, calendar, and files (Drive).
16:35 pdurbin My main dependency on Mac was iPhoto. Now it's Photos, I guess.
16:42 bene yeah, i've been debating switching my email to gmail
16:43 bene and i have downloaded and played with the google photo uploader app, but haven't taken the plunge
16:44 pdurbin wow, this article is 18 months old
16:44 pdurbin very informative. thanks. I wonder how much it costs
16:47 bene it's in line with dropbox/google/amazon
16:48 bene oh yeah, amazon gives you unlimited photo storage for prime members too iirc
16:48 bene so many options
17:31 hydrajum1 just say no to everything cloud ;)
17:32 JoeJulian Or at least to anything google. They have this bad habit of dropping stuff that you grow to depend on.
17:35 hydrajum1 unless you pay them
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17:42 pdurbin_m hmm, we do already pay for Amazon Prime
18:22 bene saying no to everything cloud means i have to run my own services
18:22 bene and i really don't want to
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18:34 pdurbin_m certainly not email
18:34 bene heh
18:35 bene there was a bit of a row about that recently
18:35 bene i have been running my own email for 16 years or so
18:35 bene but maybe it's time to outsource that to google
18:43 bene http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2016/08/if_you_aren_t_hilary_clinton_a_private_email_server_is_a_good_idea.html <- the most recent article that set twitter on fire
19:17 pdurbin_m not a bad article but never again
19:32 bene most of the responses i saw to it disagreed with the author
19:37 hydrajum1 I know I was joking. You cant completely get away from cloud but you can try to make good choices for your needs
19:38 hydrajum1 bene: i've outsourced to google email only. Excellent choice.
22:33 * dotplus still runs my own mail
23:37 JoeJulian I've been hosting my own email for as long as I can remember.
23:40 JoeJulian And I still don't know why all these commenters think it's so hard to secure email servers. It's not.
23:43 JoeJulian The most accurate statement out of all the comments is "If your biggest concern is privacy, DON'T USE EMAIL. There is nothing secure about routing unencrypted messages across multiple servers in multiple countries." - though even that can be worked around using encryption tools.

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