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IRC log for #crimsonfu, 2016-11-08

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01:46 pdurbin dotplus: looks good. I recognize some of the names. Thanks.
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13:39 pdurbin Zed Attack Proxy? Zed like the letter? What does it stand for?
13:39 * pdurbin puts on some Zed Zed Top
14:18 dotplus I think it's for the letter. The lead dev is UKian after all.
14:22 pdurbin so it's a recursive acronym like GNU
14:25 bene howso?
14:26 pdurbin well, it seems like the Z (Zed) doesn't mean anything, like the G in GNU
14:27 bene the first g is for GNU though
14:27 bene so GNU Not Unix is the recursive part
14:27 dotplus I've been writing a fair bit of introductory docs recently and I could use a vim macro. I want a single (vim) command that inserts the first link from google/duckduckgo as a correctly formatted markdown or rst hyperlink. Any ideas whether this already exists?
14:27 bene wouldn't it have to be ZAP Attack Proxy to be recursive?
14:27 pdurbin bene: you're right. My mistake.
14:28 bene heh
14:28 pdurbin good to know people are paying attention :)
14:28 bene now you must send me a check for 27 cents like don knuth!
14:28 bene and i can frame it and put it on twitter
14:28 bene :-)
14:28 pdurbin I miss searchbot. Will go Google that now.
14:29 bene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuth_reward_check
14:29 pdurbin bene: thanks. Who needs searchbot.
14:30 pdurbin bene: if I send you a check I hope you frame it.
14:30 bene heh
14:30 bene are the girls home from school today?
14:31 pdurbin yeah, taking the day off
14:32 bene ah
14:32 pdurbin dotplus: I used to use this but I don't know if it works anymore: Goose - A command-line Google search utility - http://goose-search.sourceforge.net
14:32 bene i am WFH and the guys are entertaining themselves
14:33 pdurbin the girls have a friend over. playing Sleeping Queens. so far so good
14:42 pdurbin Next-Gen Open Source Password Manager - https://lesspass.com
14:43 pdurbin via https://gitter.im/solid/node-solid-server?at=5820663b6cb720763047100d
14:43 pdurbin still blows my mind that Tim Berners-Lee hangs out on Gitter
15:00 bene so lesspass is an open source lastpass?
15:01 bene not quite
15:01 pdurbin it does appear to be open source
15:03 dotplus answering (part of) my own question. A python library for accessing (ddg) search results https://pypi.python.org/pypi/duckduckgo2/
15:03 bene the medium post on it is illuminating
15:04 bene still wouldn't use it until some security peeps do some deep dives on it though
15:06 pdurbin dotplus: cool
15:06 pdurbin bene: do we trust lastpass? I thought they got hacked or something.
15:07 bene they got attacked
15:09 bene but the core mechanics of the lastpass tool are solid and if you have a good master password, i think the general consensus is that you are pretty safe
15:10 pdurbin ok
15:10 pdurbin Steve Gibson did a deep dive on LastPass before they got hacked and blessed it.
15:11 pdurbin https://blog.lastpass.com/2010/07/lastpass-gets-green-light-from-security.html/
15:12 pdurbin "Steve delivers his long-awaited, in-depth review and evaluation of LastPass" https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-256.htm
15:13 bene they were bought by letmein, which generated some consternation among long time users
15:13 bene since letmein does not have a great reputation
15:13 pdurbin oh
15:55 bene https://www.blackhat.com/docs/eu-15/materials/eu-15-Vigo-Even-The-Lastpass-Will-Be-Stolen-deal-with-it.pdf
15:55 bene i hadn't looked for lastpass security related things in a while so hadn't seen that
15:59 pdurbin hmm, "Storage depends on the plugin"
16:03 pdurbin "This module extracts and decrypts LastPass master login accounts and passwords, encryption keys, 2FA tokens and all the vault passwords" -- https://github.com/martinvigo/metasploit-framework/blob/lastpass_creds/modules/post/multi/gather/lastpass_creds.rb
16:04 pdurbin hmm, "lpcurrpass: The cleartext password"
16:06 pdurbin oh, "LastPass has responded and fixed most of the issues in less than 72 hours." ... so it's all been fixed, bene?
16:20 bene i didn't verify
16:20 bene but that's what the presentation says
16:39 JoeJulian I still wish there was a good cross-platform open source password store. Keepass is cross-platform and open source, but it's barely good.
20:42 pdurbin this is quite a diagram: https://github.com/open-guides/og-aws#aws-data-transfer-costs
20:42 pdurbin https://raw.githubusercontent.com/open-guides/og-aws/master/figures/aws-data-transfer-costs.png
22:02 hydrajum1 I wouldn't recommend using lesspass!
22:03 hydrajum1 JoeJulian: I recommend 1Password but it's not open source.
22:05 JoeJulian FOSS is one of my requirements.

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