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| 07:10 |
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twb |
Can some GUI browser users please view http://twb.ath.cx/tmp (draft for darcs' home page)? |
| 07:29 |
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sm |
hi twb |
| 07:30 |
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sm |
it looks like the usual one without styles |
| 07:30 |
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twb |
Hi; you have about five minutes before I afk to deal with dinner |
| 07:30 |
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sm |
I wondered if you saw my post about converting moin with pandoc |
| 07:31 |
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twb |
Not yet |
| 07:32 |
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twb |
I doubt I'll get to the moin->gitit stuff before tomorrow. Friday saw a HUGE lot of triage from Eric that I'm still trying to work through :-) |
| 07:32 |
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sm |
two posts in that same thread.. you should read them before working more on moin conversion ! |
| 07:33 |
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sm |
I'm pretty sure pandoc will read moin markup for us soon |
| 07:34 |
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sm |
pandoc is what gitit uses |
| 07:35 |
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twb |
sm: OK. |
| 07:35 |
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twb |
My "conversion" is about preserving moin's edit history, NOT about converting from moin to rest/markdown markup. |
| 07:35 |
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sm |
ahh |
| 07:36 |
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sm |
so you'll get all that into darcs ? |
| 07:36 |
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twb |
Yes. |
| 07:37 |
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twb |
Unfortunately, that also currently includes spam and spam rollbacks, which constitute like 80% of the history |
| 07:37 |
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twb |
OK, I gotta afk now |
| 07:37 |
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sm |
ack.. it's probably not worth your time then eh ? |
| 07:37 |
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sm |
we can just cut over |
| 07:37 |
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sm |
well, good luck and good weekend |
| 07:37 |
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sm |
time to crash here |
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darcscommitbot |
29 Mar 21:38 - Add issue1327.sh |
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darcscommitbot |
11 Apr 07:38 - Canonize Aaron Kaplan. |
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darcscommitbot |
11 Apr 07:39 - Alphabetise .authorspellings. |
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darcscommitbot |
11 Apr 03:04 - Code churn in Darcs.Commands.Add and Darcs.Commands.Remove. |
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darcscommitbot |
11 Apr 04:27 - Follow autoconf convention of @VAR@ for .in files. |
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darcscommitbot |
11 Apr 08:32 - Remove unused import in Darcs.Commands.Remove. |
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kowey |
whoops, hope I'm doing enough in the fire-fighting dept (CMS) |
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gh_ |
how can I build darcs' web page from the .in file ? |
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dancor |
i used tailor to copy the lambdabot darcs repo into a git repo. i have added a commit to the git repo. to get that commit back into the darcs repo, can i use tailor? |
| 12:02 |
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twb |
gh_: for the front page, "autoreconf && ./configure && make doc/index.html" |
| 12:02 |
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dancor |
i need the git repo for work, but my plan is to periodically transfer the changes back into the darcs repo and mail them for hopeful inclusion in the public lambdabot |
| 12:02 |
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twb |
Really the only thing in the .in file is that @VERSION@ and @RELEASE@ get turned into 2.2.0 |
| 12:02 |
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twb |
dancor: theoretically tailor can be bidirectional, but I haven't done that myself. |
| 12:03 |
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twb |
lelit: you're the tailor maintainer, right? Wanna help dancor? |
| 12:04 |
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dancor |
i can't quite tell if it's meant to be. the help has "Update options" but maybe that's just to later pull more thing in the original direction |
| 12:04 |
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twb |
dancor: I think what you do is define two targets, or have two tailor.config files |
| 12:04 |
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twb |
One for each direction |
| 12:04 |
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dancor |
ah perhaps |
| 12:05 |
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twb |
There is also git and darcs fast-export, but I have not had much success going from git to darcs. |
| 12:05 |
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twb |
IOW darcs-fast-import is still buggy |
| 12:05 |
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gh_ |
twb: thanks! |
| 12:08 |
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dancor |
twb: one other thing, my git-copy was created in the same dir as the .tailor file, which was expected. what was unexpected was that the .tailor file is _part_ of the git-copy repo (was "added" with the first commit in history). that seems odd; should i have kept the .tailor file in the parent directory? |
| 12:08 |
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dancor |
where do you keep your .tailor file |
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gh_ |
twb: fine, but there is hardly any style or layout in the page i'm looking at |
| 12:16 |
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twb |
gh_: the styling (which is minimal) is done by darcs.css in the same directory, I believe. But the link is absolute, so you will need to change it temporarily while editing |
| 12:16 |
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twb |
dancor: I don't actually use tailor much. |
| 12:16 |
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dancor |
ok, thanks :) |
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twb |
dancor: but yeah, you have to keep it outside the repo you're working on :-/ |
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dancor |
ok |
| 12:17 |
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dancor |
is it true that darcs patches have strictly more information than git revisions? |
| 12:25 |
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twb |
That's difficult to say. |
| 12:43 |
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dancor |
it looks like http://vmiklos.hu/project/darc[…]rt/git-darcs.html is going to be the answer to my prayers here |
| 12:44 |
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dancor |
i just need to add a small fix since lambda actually has ^H's in the change descriptions! |
| 12:44 |
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dancor |
s/lambda/\0bot |
| 12:51 |
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twb |
Haha |
| 12:51 |
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twb |
Sounds like someone did a "darcs record" on a dumb terminal |
| 12:52 |
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twb |
And got ^H and ^? mixed up, or something. |
| 12:52 |
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twb |
gh_: I replied to your post. |
| 12:53 |
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gh_ |
ok |
| 12:54 |
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* twb |
goes back to playing games. |
| 12:56 |
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lelit |
hi dancor |
| 12:56 |
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dancor |
lelit: hi |
| 12:59 |
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lelit |
unfortunately, the so called two-way (see http://progetti.arstecnica.it/tailor/ticket/1) setup is not complete as is |
| 13:00 |
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lelit |
zooko in the past had a working setup of such a thing, but it's tricky |
| 13:00 |
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lelit |
and I never had time to finish the feature :-\ |
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dancor |
ah ok |
| 13:00 |
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dancor |
thanks |
| 13:01 |
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dancor |
i'm going to see if git-darcs can do it for me, otherwise i might come crawling back and see if i can add it to tailor :) |
| 13:01 |
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lelit |
I usually kept short-lived "darcs branches" out of upstream svn repositories |
| 13:02 |
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lelit |
please report back any conclusion :) |
| 13:02 |
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dancor |
ok |
| 13:02 |
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lelit |
on the configuration, maybe you wanna add the "subdir" option to the project section |
| 13:04 |
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lelit |
this is my (almost) usual tailor script: http://pastebin.com/d420260f4 |
| 13:06 |
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lelit |
in that example, it will create a "billiards" directory in the CWD, containing tailor private stuff, and the real repository in a "billiards" subdir under that |
| 13:06 |
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lelit |
the two level let me follow several branches (say, b-trunk and b-stable) |
| 13:07 |
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dancor |
ok |
| 13:07 |
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lelit |
once you set +x attr on it, you just execute ./billiards.tailor |
| 13:17 |
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gwern |
'It uses tables (instead of CSS) to enforce a |
| 13:17 |
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gwern |
particular layout on me, which happens to look very bad in my tty (w3m) |
| 13:17 |
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gwern |
and print media (html2ps) browsers. |
| 13:18 |
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gwern |
Greetings people of the future! I respect your impossibly fast computers, but kids thesedays! you just don't know how to make pretty webpages |
| 13:18 |
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gwern |
allow me to bring you homespun wisdom from the '80s so you might mend your ways! |
| 13:25 |
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arjanb |
:) |
| 13:37 |
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twb |
FSVO "pretty" = different for every damn site. |
| 13:38 |
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twb |
It's my browser, and I'll bloody well set the link colour and the font once. Authors have no place telling my browser to use the wrong fonts, the wrong colours, or ragged right. |
| 13:39 |
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twb |
And assuming that my A4 printout is a scrollable 4:3 raster display is just plain annoying. |
| 13:39 |
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twb |
If you want to assuming that everyone on the planet using Firefox 3, then I guess I can't stop you. But that is the absolute antithesis of the ideas that the "web" was founded on. |
| 13:42 |
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twb |
Then 80s had glass ttys, and I guess the 10s will have glass paper... :-( |
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twb |
s/then/the/ |
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dancor |
e-ink? so with an even worse refresh than the ttys :) |
| 13:59 |
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dancor |
as of darcs 2.2.1, does (darcs repair) fix the bad-crc's problem? |
| 14:20 |
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gh_ |
i think this is an issue that is going to be fixed in the next hacking sprint |
| 14:22 |
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Heffalump |
if we can get enough of Duncan's time, anyway |
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dancor |
lelit: git-darcs worked. i had to deal with crc bs tho and upgrade git to get git-fast-import with --import-mark |
| 14:42 |
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dancor |
so i think it mostly works but its error-checking could be better |
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lelit |
great |
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sm |
morning all |
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| 20:09 |
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DanielC |
I'm working on the Patch Theory documentation. Can someone give me the list of *primitive* patches? I have Hunk and token-replace. For example, are add-file, remove-file and rename-file considered primitive patches? |
| 20:12 |
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arjanb |
a list is in src/Darcs/Patch/Prim.lhs |
| 20:12 |
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DanielC |
thanks |
| 20:12 |
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arjanb |
but you need to know a little haskell to read that |
| 20:13 |
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DanielC |
I know how to make the factorial function in Haskell, but that's the limit of my Haskell knowledge. |
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* DanielC |
is downloading darcs sources |
| 20:19 |
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arjanb |
there's some latex code in the core sources but i have no idea where pdf of that can be found |
| 20:23 |
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DanielC |
Judging from the sources, I would say AddFile, RmFile, AddDir, RmDir, Hunk, Binary, TokenReplace, Move, ChangePref, and Split. |
| 20:23 |
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DanielC |
I don't know what the last two mean. |
| 20:24 |
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arjanb |
Split is an obsolete thing related to darcs1 mergers |
| 20:25 |
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DanielC |
ok |
| 20:27 |
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arjanb |
ChangePref is produced by darcs setpref |
| 20:27 |
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* DanielC |
looks up setpref |
| 20:28 |
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DanielC |
I see. |
| 20:28 |
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DanielC |
Thanks. |
| 20:29 |
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arjanb |
it's debatable if that should be considered a primitive patch |
| 20:29 |
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Heffalump |
what else would you call it? |
| 20:31 |
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arjanb |
a workaround |
| 20:31 |
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Heffalump |
for what? |
| 20:31 |
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Heffalump |
versioning metadata strikes me as a very good idea |
| 20:31 |
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arjanb |
for not treating the relevant preferences as real files |
| 20:32 |
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Heffalump |
but how would you decide what they were called? |
| 20:32 |
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Heffalump |
I guess darcs could have some special name for them, perhaps pretending to be in the _darcs directory. |
| 20:35 |
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arjanb |
that would have had my preference |
| 20:35 |
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Heffalump |
I prefer more specific patch types, personally. |
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twb |
arjanb: the latex gets turned into HTML at http://darcs.net/manual/ |
| 23:06 |
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arjanb |
it doesn't include everything in Darcs.Patch |
| 23:06 |
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twb |
That's fixed last week, but the page hasn't been rebuilt |
| 23:06 |
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twb |
In your own repo, "autoreconf && ./configure && make pdf" |
| 23:06 |
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arjanb |
i see |
| 23:09 |
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twb |
Fuuuuuuck, I can't find my moin-to-gitit work |
| 23:10 |
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twb |
Hmm, I hope this is it |
| 23:11 |
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twb |
Phew |
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gwern |
twb: how's it going? |
| 23:35 |
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twb |
gwern: hi |
| 23:35 |
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twb |
I'm just teaching moin2darcs how to preserve author and date metadata. |
| 23:37 |
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gwern |
what does it know so far? |
| 23:38 |
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twb |
That's a little hard to articulate |
| 23:38 |
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twb |
Do you have a shell on cho? |
| 23:39 |
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gwern |
yes |
| 23:39 |
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twb |
~twb/public_html/DarcsWiki.DRAFT is where I got up to last time. |
| 23:41 |
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* gwern |
looks at the faq |
| 23:42 |
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gwern |
a few issues I can see there |
| 23:42 |
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gwern |
raw links ideally have <> |
| 23:42 |
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twb |
They do? |
| 23:42 |
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gwern |
and I'm not sure about {{{}}} |
| 23:42 |
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twb |
Yes, the syntax isn't being converted, as I've said. |
| 23:42 |
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gwern |
twb: yeah, that way they get hyperlinked |
| 23:43 |
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gwern |
oh, my bad then |
| 23:43 |
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gwern |
what is being converted? just the revision history so far? |
| 23:43 |
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twb |
IMO if raw links aren't hyperlinked, that's another reason to use reST. |
| 23:43 |
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twb |
Yes, my goal is to preserve revision history. Once that's done, conversion of syntax can be done in the resulting Darcs repo. |
| 23:43 |
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gwern |
whoa, what're those summaries? |
| 23:43 |
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gwern |
some sort of unicode translation? |
| 23:44 |
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twb |
Yes, though most of the unicode is spam. |
| 23:44 |
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gwern |
hm. as long as every patch touches just the one file, presumably we can snip all of it out of the history right? |
| 23:45 |
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twb |
That's my hope. |
| 23:45 |
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gwern |
(but actually I need to do dye eggs right now, so I'll look some more in half an hour or an hour) |
| 23:45 |
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twb |
Unfortunately I think it's not that simple, because if a spammer adds a line and then Eric removes it, those will be dependencies for patches that later edit that file. I think. |
| 23:50 |
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twb |
Heh, moinmoin chokes on files that contain colons |
| 23:56 |
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twb |
gwern: should http://test.darcs.net/ work at the moment? |
| 23:56 |
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twb |
Should .page files be in the root directory of a gitit darcs repo, or should they all be in a sub-dir (e.g. ./pages/)? |
