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* lispy|web |
is waiting for HPC to finish |
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kowey |
morning |
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lambdabot |
kowey: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. |
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lispy|web |
kowey: good morning |
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lispy|web |
kowey: I can no longer build with -ftest |
| 06:20 |
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lispy|web |
kowey: I removed commutex from the normal code, but it's still used in the unit test target, which I can't build for other reasons. |
| 06:21 |
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lispy|web |
kowey: Kind of an awkward position. |
| 06:21 |
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lispy|web |
I'm getting that iconv undefined symbols error |
| 06:21 |
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kowey |
http://web.mornfall.net/stuff/[…]s-sprint-3-gp.jpg |
| 06:21 |
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lispy|web |
and cabal is warning about multiple versions of the same library |
| 06:22 |
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kowey |
hmm |
| 06:22 |
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lispy|web |
kowey: nice |
| 06:22 |
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lispy|web |
package regex-compat-0.71.0.1 requires regex-base-0.72.0.2 package regex-posix-0.72.0.3 requires regex-base-0.93.1 |
| 06:22 |
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kowey |
lispy|web: I thought there was a simple way to work around the iconv undefined symbols error? |
| 06:22 |
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lispy|web |
Note: our cabal file only mentions regex-compat |
| 06:22 |
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kowey |
upgrading some package or another? |
| 06:23 |
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kowey |
or on the Mac, something about installing iconv via MacPorts? |
| 06:24 |
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kowey |
lispy|web: http://old.nabble.com/Haskelin[…]X-td21778193.html |
| 06:26 |
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kowey |
lispy|web: apologies to the Portland sprinters who got their patches stuck in the anti-spam moderation queue |
| 06:28 |
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lispy|web |
kowey: np, we figured it out, but I don't know the current pasword so I couldn't clear up the queue |
| 06:28 |
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kowey |
oh, I never changed it |
| 06:29 |
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lispy|web |
hmm |
| 06:29 |
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lispy|web |
weird :) |
| 06:29 |
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kowey |
did Thomas make it to the sprint? |
| 06:29 |
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lispy|web |
Not yet |
| 06:29 |
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lispy|web |
But, hes' in portland |
| 06:29 |
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lispy|web |
He said he'd be there Sunday |
| 06:30 |
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kowey |
cool |
| 06:30 |
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lispy|web |
We didn't have any gumption left by the time he arrived (train was very late) |
| 06:30 |
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lispy|web |
I think this solved my iconv problem cabal install haskeline --reinstall --extra-lib-dirs=/opt/local/lib --extra-include-dirs=/opt/local/include |
| 06:31 |
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lispy|web |
I was wrong |
| 06:31 |
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lispy|web |
I still got the error |
| 06:33 |
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kowey |
@localtime lispy|web |
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lambdabot |
Local time for lispy|web is Sat Nov 14 22:33:34 2009 |
| 06:34 |
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kowey |
did the other newbies have fun? |
| 06:34 |
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lispy|web |
Not sure :) |
| 06:34 |
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kowey |
we had a little trouble getting started; next sprint really need to work on more active mentoring |
| 06:34 |
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lispy|web |
I _hope_ so. But I'm a terrible judge of such things. |
| 06:34 |
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kowey |
especially for the getting-darcs-installed phase |
| 06:34 |
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lispy|web |
ah |
| 06:35 |
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lispy|web |
So, I've ran the command I pasted above with haskelline replaced by iconv and pcre-light and I still get the failure |
| 06:35 |
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kowey |
Judah should know |
| 06:35 |
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lispy|web |
doing a cabal clean on darcs |
| 06:35 |
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kowey |
also, I think you can search the IRC logs for haskeline by kowey |
| 06:36 |
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lispy|web |
The good news is that I figured out a nice way to remove commutex. |
| 06:36 |
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kowey |
ah, here you are : http://trac.haskell.org/haskeline/ticket/74 |
| 06:36 |
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lispy|web |
I made two higher order functions to convert between the commute and commutex calling conventions |
| 06:37 |
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lispy|web |
Then replaced all the calls to commutex with a direct call to commute. The places that required the commutex type I added a call to the higher order function (only about 3 places) |
| 06:37 |
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lispy|web |
The type-witnesses make this all very safe |
| 06:38 |
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lispy|web |
The reason I'm doing this is because the existence of both commute and commutex (and having them be mutually recursive) makes it harder to debug the exponential merge issue |
| 06:40 |
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kowey |
so isn't this just replacing commute + commutex with commute + the higher order function? |
| 06:40 |
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kowey |
Johnanthan's patches are having a little trouble : http://bugs.darcs.net/patch64 |
| 06:41 |
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lispy|web |
The higher order function just changes the tuple types. So it is very easy to verify that you don't get into this recursive calling of each other |
| 06:41 |
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lispy|web |
kowey: he had to use mutt as his sendmail |
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* kowey |
takes breakfast |
| 06:47 |
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lispy|web |
kowey :: Breakfast -> ?? |
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mornfall |
Breakfast time indeed. |
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tommd |
@tell lispy|web At 1 meg a minute it will take another ~5 hours to finish. It will be ready for you at 0600h - three hours before the Sunday portion of the Darcs Sprint starts. http://community.haskell.org/~tommd/ghc. Problems include pulling from GHC HEAD (merge non-termination) and "darcs put"ing (consumed 4GB of RAM). |
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lambdabot |
Consider it noted. |
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nomeata |
good morning |
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mornfall |
Morgen. |
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tux_rocker |
guten morgen :-) |
| 08:29 |
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kowey |
:-) |
| 08:29 |
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tux_rocker |
any Portland people still around? |
| 08:29 |
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tux_rocker |
@seen lispy |
| 08:29 |
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lambdabot |
Unknown command, try @list |
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mornfall |
tux_rocker: [07:47] lispy|web | #darcs | kowey :: Breakfast -> ?? |
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kowey |
I think I'll do a little introductory round - what we're working on, what questions/problems we may have, also note the upcoming meetings, lunch, roadmap |
| 08:32 |
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kowey |
and hope that's just not going to waste everybody's time... |
| 08:35 |
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mornfall |
ertai_: ping? |
| 08:35 |
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mornfall |
kowey: I'd guess you could shorten that a little. |
| 08:35 |
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mornfall |
kowey: Just announce meetings. |
| 08:35 |
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mornfall |
kowey: And ask for questions. |
| 08:36 |
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mornfall |
I think we roughly know who's up to what from yesterday evening. |
| 08:36 |
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kowey |
OK |
| 08:37 |
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kowey |
err... now? |
| 08:37 |
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kowey |
right... I go and hope for the best |
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kowey |
phew |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
Guten Morgen Alles! |
| 08:49 |
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kowey |
our patch tracker is chock full of things to review :-) |
| 08:50 |
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mornfall |
luca-darcs-sprin: Guten Morgen Herr Luca. |
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Heffalump |
morning sprint! |
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mornfall |
Morning Heffalump. |
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tux_rocker_ |
does anybody know an IRC nickname for Judah? |
| 09:05 |
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darcscommitbot |
14 Nov 16:16 - Workaround a System.Directory.createDirectory issue. (Salvatore Insalaco) |
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tux_rocker_ |
I'm going to blame the negative characters fed to Prelude.chr on Haskeline :-) |
| 09:05 |
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darcscommitbot |
15 Nov 08:59 - Add a comment to the performGC workaround in amNotInRepository function. (Petr Rockai) |
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kowey |
could this be turned into some sort of Haskeline test case? |
| 09:09 |
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kowey |
tux_rocker_: ahem... (Windows :-)) |
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tux_rocker__ |
presumably, yes |
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nikon |
http://pastebin.ca/1671962 |
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mornfall |
nikon: http://pastebin.ca/1671970 |
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kowey |
Windows meeting, done |
| 09:36 |
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kowey |
official binaries are coming to town (one day) |
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tux_rocker__ |
my internet connection is very flaky |
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tux_rocker__ |
am I the only one? |
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mornfall |
tux_rocker__: Dunno, seems to work fine here. |
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eivuokko |
Just wanted to ask about info on MAPI (the issue 1688), is Ms deprecating whole MAPI, including the Simple MAPI, which darcs "uses." |
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kowey |
eivuokko : I just walked over and grabbed kirby_ so we could talk about this |
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kirby_ |
ok, there was a question about MAPI support? :) |
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kowey |
"Just wanted to ask about info on MAPI (the issue 1688), is Ms deprecating whole MAPI, including the Simple MAPI, which darcs "uses." |
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kirby_ |
as far as I know it, MAPI is being deprecated altogether |
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eivuokko |
Ms MAPI support. I'm someone who has written MAPI module for Win32 and hacked on darcs mapi support some in past. |
| 10:19 |
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kirby_ |
with Exchange 2007 the primary way to interact is with WebDAV |
| 10:19 |
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tux_rocker__ |
we just decided we were going to drop MAPI support? |
| 10:19 |
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kirby_ |
BUT |
| 10:19 |
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kirby_ |
I tought about the fact that in Exchange settings where SMTP is disabled |
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kirby_ |
+ |
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eivuokko |
kirby, Simple MAPI too? It's pretty much indenpendent? |
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kirby_ |
MAPI is still the only way to send mail |
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kirby_ |
eivuokko: that one is being substituted by a .NET API |
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eivuokko |
Ah, cool. |
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kirby_ |
so |
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eivuokko |
Thanks for info. |
| 10:20 |
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kirby_ |
I think that we cannot really disable that support |
| 10:20 |
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eivuokko |
And yeah, no .net support darcs could support for now... |
| 10:20 |
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kirby_ |
yes, exactly |
| 10:20 |
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kirby_ |
we could ship a .net binary |
| 10:20 |
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kirby_ |
that do the sending |
| 10:20 |
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kirby_ |
but... we will think about it for 2.5 ;) |
| 10:21 |
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eivuokko |
If you have enough hackers for it :-P |
| 10:21 |
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eivuokko |
Oh, well. Thanks for the info and gl. And thanks kowey. |
| 10:22 |
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kowey |
eivuokko: check out http://wiki.darcs.net/Sprints/[…]-meeting-saturday too |
| 10:22 |
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eivuokko |
Can't connect -.- |
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kirby_ |
http://books.google.com/books?[…]eprecated&f=false |
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kirby_ |
more information about Simple MAPI deprecation :) |
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kirby_ |
i talks about using Extended MAPI |
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kirby_ |
but that was deprecated too, in Exchange 2007 |
| 10:24 |
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eivuokko |
Well, mainly the annoyance is that there are other Simple MAPI providers, like Thunderbird |
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kirby_ |
we think to ship with a simple mail sender in Windows |
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kirby_ |
and use it to send mails |
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eivuokko |
That, in some cases, had some real use cases. |
| 10:25 |
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eivuokko |
That was brushed aside before "If users want it, they can install smtp themselves." or so. |
| 10:25 |
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eivuokko |
3-4 years ago, or something, though. |
| 10:25 |
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kirby_ |
actually we want to improve darcs send experience for windows users in 2.5 |
| 10:25 |
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kirby_ |
the objective is: darcs send should "just work" :) |
| 10:26 |
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kirby_ |
how... we have still to think about it ;) |
| 10:26 |
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eivuokko |
Well, sending mail isn't "just work" nowdays with people sending mails from different WLANs. :) |
| 10:26 |
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kirby_ |
sure, that's because we are thinking about it ;) |
| 10:27 |
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kirby_ |
actually I feel that darcs is very functional on windows for local and HTTP repository |
| 10:27 |
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kirby_ |
improving the SSH and SMTP experience is the next step |
| 10:27 |
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eivuokko |
I dunno, I just use darcs locally nowdays. |
| 10:27 |
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eivuokko |
Ssh is a bit pain because putty has no good installer (and register etc entries.) |
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kirby_ |
we want to ship an installer |
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kirby_ |
with a ssh implementation |
| 10:28 |
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kirby_ |
lots of good intentions! :) |
| 10:28 |
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eivuokko |
Lots of work and testing, that. |
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kirby_ |
we will try... we want to make Windows a first-class citizen in darcs world |
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eivuokko |
kowey, will wiki.darcs.net/darcs.net be up soonish? |
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eivuokko |
Well, I think I'm off to study some math, have fun. :-) I'll check the link some later time. |
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kowey |
oh my! |
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kowey |
darcs.net is down |
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kirby_ |
too many patches! |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
LOL |
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kowey |
support request filed |
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darcs-cache-dir |
oppps |
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mornfall |
[11:47] QwertyM | #kde-devel | taras: that and I can't ever checkout a large repo properly without git failing.. I miss amarok dailies :\ wish the tarballs came with the .git folder in them, cause |
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kowey |
eivuokko: http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpas[…]w?id=12166#a12166 (while waiting) |
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Heffalump |
re the MAPI stuff, could darcs use hsdotnet to interact with the .NET API? |
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Heffalump |
kowey: is the lack of darcs.net a problem for the sprint? |
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eivuokko |
Heffalump, last I tried, hs-dotnet isn't anywhere near the quality needed, it also introduces some installation issues because of the way wrappers work. |
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Heffalump |
ah, I thought it was quite simple and easy to use, but I didn't get very far with it |
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Heffalump |
you're talking about Sigbjorn's untyped binding rather than the UNSW typed wrappers, right? |
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eivuokko |
hs-dotnet was the name of the package, as I recall, and yeah it was Finne's. |
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kowey |
right now, we're quite happy that we're using a distributed revision control |
| 11:08 |
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kowey |
because somebody here needs a complete copy of the repo |
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mornfall |
http://128.131.203.6/mainline/ (it has couple extra patches though, but shouldn't be much of an issue) |
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mornfall |
Ok, prolly this doesn't work here. |
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eivuokko |
What is Tortoise ssh? |
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Heffalump |
mornfall: might matter if people depend on those patches.. |
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mornfall |
http://repos.mornfall.net/darcs/mainline/ |
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mornfall |
mf_: http://repos.mornfall.net/darcs/mainline/ |
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kirby_ |
eivuokko: it is a fork of plink from putty that handles messages with dialog boxes |
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kirby_ |
eivuokko: it is used by TortoiseSVN |
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eivuokko |
Hm |
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kirby_ |
eivuokko: it will resolve the dreaded "please accept the remote hash" issue that locks darcs |
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eivuokko |
Dialog boxes are not good for running without desktop, but I can see the point certainly. |
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kirby_ |
eivuokko: it is not mandatory to use it, it is just a nice default :) you can use any ssh implementation |
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eivuokko |
Do you have a plan on which installer-generator you're gonna use? |
| 11:24 |
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eivuokko |
And exactly what goes into installer, and how to get it working. Like building docs in Windows? |
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kirby_ |
we were thinking about using the one on hackage (bamse if I recall correctly) |
| 11:24 |
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eivuokko |
Yes, generting msi would be good imo. |
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kirby_ |
inside it you will get the darcs binary, documentation, required curl library |
| 11:25 |
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kirby_ |
yes, they will be msi |
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kirby_ |
and TortoiseSVN and a mail client (msmtp-like) as optional installas |
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kirby_ |
installs |
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kirby_ |
and it should add darcs to the default path |
| 11:25 |
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kirby_ |
maybe the next sprint :) |
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eivuokko |
Does documentation build in Windows? |
| 11:26 |
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eivuokko |
(Without horrible hacks and installing stuff like libpng on msys) |
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kirby_ |
I think it doesn't easily... |
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eivuokko |
And that wasn't a joke, it used to require that. |
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kirby_ |
but I didn't try recently :) |
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kirby_ |
I don't know if we switched away from TeX yet |
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eivuokko |
That'd building installer a bit annoying. |
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kirby_ |
not really: I don't want to provide an installer builder :) |
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eivuokko |
TeX isn't neccesarily problem, miktex is pretty well behaved. |
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kirby_ |
I want to provide and installer |
| 11:27 |
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eivuokko |
Yeah, well, hf generating docs on other machine... |
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kirby_ |
providing an installer that builds from sources will be very very hard |
| 11:27 |
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kirby_ |
so I won't do it probably ;) |
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eivuokko |
As bamse *will not* work in non-windows iirc. |
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kirby_ |
yes |
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kirby_ |
it doesn't work |
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eivuokko |
I meant that to buidl an installer, you'd want to work in Windows machine, and if you have to build docs somewhere else... |
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kirby_ |
that's not a real problem for me, as I use Windows on a Virtual Machine :) |
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mornfall |
nikon: http://repos.mornfall.net/darcs/mainline/ |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
Hello everyone |
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tux_rocker |
Guten Nachmittag Herr Molteni |
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kowey |
dacrs.net is back up |
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dcoutts |
anyone think this bug is known/unknown ? |
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dcoutts |
darcs: bug in darcs! |
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dcoutts |
Empty filename in is_relative at src/Darcs/URL.hs:60 compiled Nov 2 2009 20:08:25 |
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2.2.1 |
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is it reproducible? |
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dcoutts |
yes |
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kirby_ |
which platform? |
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dcoutts |
darcs push nonexistant/ |
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dcoutts |
linux |
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kowey |
I think that one has been fixed |
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dcoutts |
the trailing / is necessary |
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dcoutts |
kowey: ok, I had a quick look in the bug tracker, but didn't check closed tickets |
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kowey |
http://bugs.darcs.net/issue1162 <-- is this it? |
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kirby_ |
I just tried on 2.3.1, it seems to work |
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kowey: looks very similar, yes |
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where are yesterday's photos? |
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luca-darcs-sprin: On my CF. |
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broke the buildbot |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
mornfall: do you want to see our implementation of bucketing? |
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mornfall |
luca-darcs-sprin: I'll look at the patches. :) |
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nomeata |
To test darcswatch/roundup-integration, can someone please review and apply http://bugs.darcs.net/patch66, without closing the ticket manually? |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
this macosx "instrument", based on dtrace, is the most buggy thing ever |
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ertai_ |
mornfall: pong |
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* kowey |
is on it, nomeata |
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kowey |
done |
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mornfall |
ertai_: Hi, could you please install latest hashed-storage? Thanks. |
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ertai_: Also, the slave previously died with strange linker errors. |
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ertai_ |
yep I have a custom timeout on my linker :) |
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ertai_ |
mornfall: I had problems with ld running my machine completly (allocating Gigs of memory) |
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mornfall: hashed-storage-0.4.3 installed |
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mornfall |
ertai_: (.data+0x78): undefined reference to `networkzm2zi2zi1zi4_NetworkziURI_a59_closure' |
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mornfall |
ertai_: And a bunch of similar. |
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mornfall |
ertai_: : - ( |
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mornfall |
ertai_: Maybe cabal install HTTP --reinstall is in order? |
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mornfall |
ertai_: Or maybe even network |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
maybe buketing is working... |
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ertai_ |
mornfall: hum this look indeed a different issue |
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ertai_ |
mornfall: HTTP and network installed (a newer version maybe, I didn't needed --reinstall) |
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mornfall |
forced, let's see |
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mornfall |
ertai_: Looks better, thanks! |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
ARGH @--no-test |
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luca-darcs-sprin: : - P |
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does anyone remember the number of the bucket cache? |
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kowey |
1624 |
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Heffalump |
should I be including bugs darcs.net when I reply to submitted patch? |
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Heffalump |
It happens by default with reply-all |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
kowey: thanks |
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* Heffalump |
definitely likes darcswatch auto-handling the acceptance of patches but is less sure about it sending emails to tell us it's watching submitted patches |
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Heffalump: there's a ticket for that :-) |
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Heffalump |
I see the review team is going to be busy for a while post-sprint :-) |
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kowey |
http://bugs.darcs.net/issue1689 |
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bots were out because my server was restarted due to excessive swap, sorry about that |
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darcswikibot |
15 Nov 16:20 - update msmtprc instructions (david) |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
I'm going home folks |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
thank for all... |
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luca-darcs-sprin |
BYE :D |
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Heffalump: I really just wants buttons to click accepted rejected obsolete |
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Heffalump |
as opposed to dropdowns? |
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15 Nov 16:44 - making it better (kowey) |
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gwern: talking about darcswatch? This feature is now a bit more likely to be implemented. If the sprint would go on for another few hours, I’d probably do it. |
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lispy|web |
Hello! |
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lispy|web: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. |
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lispy|web |
?messages |
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lambdabot |
tommd said 9h 16m 2s ago: At 1 meg a minute it will take another ~5 hours to finish. It will be ready for you at 0600h - three hours before the Sunday portion of the Darcs Sprint starts. http:// |
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community.haskell.org/~tommd/ghc. Problems include pulling from GHC HEAD (merge non-termination) and "darcs put"ing (consumed 4GB of RAM). |
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lispy|web |
?tell tommd thanks! |
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lambdabot |
Consider it noted. |
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Heffalump: dropdowns? you mark rejected or obsolete by emailing darcswatch and praying your email is just right |
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lispy|web |
darcs get is really slow |
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lispy|web |
I'm now scping this copy of the ghc repo because get looked like it would take a decade |
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notes he doesn't have a decade to spare today |
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mornfall |
lispy|web: We have semi-designed an interim fix for that. |
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lispy|web |
mornfall: semi-explain :) |
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gwern |
doesn't ghc provide a tarball of the repo up to a certain date? |
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lispy|web |
gwern: this is tommd's copy that exhibits a nasty merge issue |
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mornfall |
It involves creating a pair of tarballs upon tags in public repositories (you'd need to enable that in the defaults file on the remote repo, I suppose). |
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Heffalump: I was a little confused by your reply to my commutex patch. Is the patch accepted and you're pointing out future work? |
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Heffalump: or was the patch rejected? |
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mornfall: ah |
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mornfall: yeah, that has "not ideal" written all over it :) |
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lispy|web: Sure. But it's likely to work and fix the issue at hand. |
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lispy|web: And it's doable in the 2.4 horizon. |
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lispy|web |
:) |
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gwern |
the mailing list and bugtracker activity is getting a little irritating... |
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gwern: it'll settle down over the week, sprint's winding up in Vienna |
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kowey |
and also we're working on improving the automation so that we get fewer admin messages on the mailing list |
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gwern: thanks for the feedback though! |
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gwern |
:) |
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gwern |
the annoying thing is that gmails' mute isn't working well |
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I guess all sorts of the same-issue or same-bug are showing up as different conversations |
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lispy|web |
gwern: I don't think gmail's mute ever works in a meaningful way : |
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:) |
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dons |
lispy|web: i'm sorry, looking at my work this week, i don't think i'll have time to day to hack. got to get a bunch done before weds, so won't be in today to work on darcs. :/ |
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dons: okay. No worries |
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darcscommitbot |
15 Nov 14:45 - hlint error: Use first instead of *** (Joachim Breitner) |
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lispy|web |
j3h: http://bugs.darcs.net/patch39 |
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lispy|web |
j3h: http://bugs.darcs.net/patch39 |
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lispy|web |
j3h: http://lists.osuosl.org/piperm[…]ember/022062.html |
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kowey |
sorry for the noise, folks :-) |
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kowey |
there's a bit of construction work in the patch tracker |
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* lispy|web |
laments the size of the GHC repo |
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kowey |
but the result is a lot less admin overhead |
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* tux_rocker__ |
yawns |
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gh_ |
hi sprinter |
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gh_ |
+s |
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kowey |
hey, hey! |
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kowey |
looks like we're going to be able to put away our jackhammers |
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kowey |
now to amend patches you only need to do darcs send --subject '[patchNNN]' ; no crazy stuff |
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kowey |
woo! |
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kowey |
have fun, lispy|web and friends! |
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lispy|web |
kowey: oh, interesting |
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kowey |
phew, recap is darcs-users is nosy, so everything is in one place |
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kowey |
darcswatch now automatically sets status=accepted so no need to do crazy things in the subject |
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tux_rocker |
mornfall proposed that we just "use" hackage's lack of authentication to release a new version of utf8-string that fixes my unit tests :-) |
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Heffalump |
kowey: do amendments replace the old ones so it's very clear which is "current"? |
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kowey |
and due to darcs-users being nosy, just setting --subject='[patchXX]' works |
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nomeata |
tux_rocker: that was me, don’t say bad things about mornfall :-) |
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kowey |
if you look on the web interface, it appears the attachments with same name are sorted by date |
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kowey |
and finally due to nice mornfall procmail hacking, you don't need to say "darcs patch:" in the subject line |
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kowey |
just the fact the mail is directed at patches@ means that the tracker will pick it up |
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lispy|web |
oh, you don't have to hack procmail manually if you use autoproc (on hackage) |
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lispy|web |
it provides a eDSL for writing procmail |
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kowey |
SO it should all be little smoother, with fewer hoops to jump through |
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kowey |
but we're all tired and things may be broken |
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kowey |
tests seem encouraging |
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kowey |
oh and darcs-users now treats darcswatch mail as spam so this shouldn't generate so much admin noise on list |
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Heffalump |
cunning :-) |
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Heffalump |
though it'd be nice to see the "accepted" mails |
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kowey |
^^ mornfall :-) |
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kowey |
ok, spam filter now refined to only treat X-Roundup-patch-status: needs-review as spam |
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lispy|web |
http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1595636 |
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tommd |
lispy|web: still copying? |
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lambdabot |
tommd: You have 1 new message. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read it. |
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tommd |
It would probably have been faster to run over to monk with a USB thumb drive :-) |
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tommd |
@messages |
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lambdabot |
lispy|web said 2h 12m 43s ago: thanks! |
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kowey |
err, there is this faster server you can darcs get the GHC repo from |
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kowey |
by kili... |
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kowey |
http://www.mail-archive.com/da[…]net/msg06092.html |
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lispy|web |
tommd: just finished about 1 minute ago |
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lispy|web |
tommd: running profiling the same way you were now |
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tommd1 |
kowey: If you were talking to me, this is a special repo that has hit an exponential or infinite merge when pulling (and consumes over 4GB or RAM on 'darcs put'). Useful for testing. |
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kowey |
oh ok |
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wasn't paying enough attention |
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darcscommitbot |
15 Nov 17:20 - Remove does not fail only warns on already removed or not added files. () |
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darcscommitbot |
15 Nov 19:23 - Resolve issue540: darcs remove --recursive () |
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mornfall |
tommd1: http://bugs.darcs.net/issue1540 |
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lispy|web |
We spend a lot of time in Darcs.Patch.Prim (==) |
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lispy|web |
Which isn't very helpful |
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tommd1 |
Oh, lispy|web. Do you want or need the profiles I ran yesterday? You can reproduce in 10 minutes, but if you want my copy then let me know. |
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lispy|web |
tommd1: I have all the setup locally to reproduce it |
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lispy|web |
tommd1: plus I removed commutex |
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lispy|web |
tommd1: now I only have commute |
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tommd1 |
ohhh |
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lispy|web |
so my profile is more helpful that way |
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tommd1 |
And it still hangs? |
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tux_rocker |
lispy|web: most of the time is in comparing hunks iirc |
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lispy|web |
tommd1: yeah |
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lispy|web |
tommd1: I guess, I only waited 10 minutes :) |
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tommd1 |
Halting problem. 10 is enough. |
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lispy|web |
tux_rocker: Well, the question I'm after is _why_ is it doing so much work to perform a merge |
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tux_rocker |
lispy|web: did you consider manually marking cost centers? |
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lispy|web |
tux_rocker: The problem understanding the control flow |
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lispy|web |
but yeah, we've done that |
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lispy|web |
The profile isn't as helpful as I thought it would be fore infering control flow |
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tux_rocker |
there's also the assertConsistent function |
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lispy|web |
What does that do? |
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tux_rocker |
arjanb once thought that that had some problems of its own |
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tux_rocker |
it is called at various places in the merge code |
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tux_rocker |
for checking that a certain created patch is consistent |
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tux_rocker |
but arjanb said that it was called many times on the same data |
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lispy|web |
I wonder where this == function is actually implemented also |
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lispy|web |
I guess it's called by unsafeCompare |
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digs in his memory of the previous sprint |
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tux_rocker |
hi arjanb :-) |
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thinks it is time to go |
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the == you see in profile is probably the default instance for FilePatchType |
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arjanb |
i remember trying to improve the == but that didn't help much because the problem is in the amount of times it's called |
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trofi |
hia. we are slowly preparing for ghc-6.12 release and i've tried to build current darcs-darcs: http://dpaste.com/120812/ |
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trofi |
appied http://dpaste.com/120813/ |
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trofi |
Maybe it's worth releasing 2.3.2 with http://dpaste.com/120813/ ? |
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trofi |
btw, darcs-2.3.1 with http://dpaste.com/120813/ builds and wirksforme |
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those changes aren't enough, you also need to fix a few other things to make the tests and things build properly |
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Heffalump |
we've got them submitted already, but held off applying because of not wanting to cause conflicts |
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Heffalump |
I guess a 2.3.2 might make sense |
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ah, ok |
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the bit you pasted doesn't actually cause conflicts so perhaps we should apply that bit right away |
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build problem, what do I do? http://hpaste.org/fastcgi/hpas[…]w?id=12183#a12183 |
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Heffalump |
hack around it locally I suggest |
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Heffalump |
and ask on the list |
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working now |
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So I'm looking at adding a command to darcs to set the "_darcs/prefs/email" value, since it looks like that command doesn't exist. What do people think about this? I don't think we should use "setpref", because this is a preference that doesn't travel with the repository. |
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Heffalump |
is writing into the file onerous or confusing? |
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cygnus |
Manually, you mean? |
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cygnus |
If you mean manually, then yes; it seems reasonable to me to say, nobody should need to edit anything in _darcs by hand for any reason, ever. I mean, making _darcs's representation human-readable is nice, but nobody should ever need to know about it. |
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I'm thinking of something like "darcs repopref email <...>". |
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cygnus |
or "setdefault". |
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kwallmark |
darcs localpref? |
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cygnus |
Yeah, that works |
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kwallmark |
patch-tag: http://bugs.darcs.net/issue1627 |
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* tommd |
is sad that he skipped todays hacking and hopes it went well |
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lispy|web |
cygnus: http://lists.osuosl.org/piperm[…]ember/022115.html |
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Heffalump |
I tend to agree that not having to edit files in _darcs is a good design principle. |
