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Ingmar |
Is there a darcs release that builds with GHC 6.12.1? |
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Heffalump |
no |
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Heffalump |
oh, wait |
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Heffalump |
the 2.4 series does. But it's still in beta. |
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Heffalump: Ah, is there a tarball for those? |
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Ingmar |
ah, found it |
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kowey_ |
good morning |
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kowey |
http://github.com/droundy/iolaus |
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kowey |
:-) |
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lelit |
kowey_: did he stop hacking on his own darcs? |
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Topic for #darcsis now http://darcs.net | http://wiki.darcs.net/IRC | latest is 2.3.1 | beta: darcs get --lazy http://darcs.net/releases/branch-2.4 |
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kowey |
lelit: I think so |
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* gour |
just found out about droundy's git-darcs |
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kowey |
well, it's not aiming for any sort of darcs compatibility, I think |
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kowey |
it really does look like good stuff, though |
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gour |
he is not any longer interested in improving darcs? |
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kowey |
I wish I understood it better... my vague understanding is that iolaus uses one branch per patch, and that each patch is in the minimal context |
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kowey |
not really |
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gour |
if it's similar to git, then it's too complicate for me to think about it |
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kowey |
no, no |
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kowey |
it does all this for you behind the scenes... you just see your working directory |
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kowey |
I *think*, without having a good understanding that it would be like using darcs for short term history |
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kowey |
(ie. with all the cherry picking goodness) |
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gour |
heh |
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kowey |
but that once things go into the official repo, then you lose some of the cherry picking |
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kowey |
which may actually be just fine, because it's quite plausible that in practice, after a certain point, you don't care so much about cherry picking anyway |
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gour |
darcs enables me, or at least i think so, to understand a bit, how my patches are travelling around |
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gour |
model is not so complicated, but i'm not aware of the implementation details |
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kowey |
yeah |
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kowey |
well one thing we don't yet know how to do in darcs is track history |
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gour |
that's why i won't bother thinking too long about his new child |
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kowey |
we can reorder things, but we can't tell you things like "changeset X was applied to repo Y by Z" |
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Igloo |
There's no good reason for that, though |
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Igloo |
It's just a question of tuits |
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kowey |
hmm, hopefully we'll be able to keep in touch |
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gour |
heh, that's part of 'design' |
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kowey |
right |
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kowey |
but there is something that may be nice about state-based revision control... |
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* kowey |
vaguely and incoherently mumbles something about "robustness" |
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kowey |
the reason I'm being vague and incoherent about this is that I don't have the intellectual chops to back this idea up... |
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kowey |
but I do have a sort of feeling that in the state-based world, you're in less trouble if something should go wrong |
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kowey |
anyway, another interesting effect of iolaus, if David does get around to making it usable |
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kowey |
is that it solves the network effects problem! |
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kowey |
you don't care if other people use Iolaus or not, as long as they have a git repository |
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gour |
strange world when git 'format' is becoming standard :-D |
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tux_rocker |
hmm, so david reimplemented darcs on top of git!? |
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tux_rocker |
and it still contains SlurpDirectory :) |
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tux_rocker |
he is one amazing coder |
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tux_rocker |
be a physicist, and make a build system and an SCM in your spare time in one year |
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tux_rocker |
i can' t get franchise anywhere |
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dons |
i'm somewhat annoyed this isn't cabalized. |
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dons |
somewhat/unsurprised. |
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dons |
not using cabal will continue to hinder adoption. |
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idnar |
I thought darcs was cabalized now |
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idnar |
although I seem to recall a bunch of issues with configuration detection |
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idnar |
or feature testing, rather |
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dons |
darcs is, certainly. |
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idnar |
oh, sorry, I must have missed some context then |
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Heffalump |
droundy's git porcelain |
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Heffalump |
that tries to make it darcs-like (I don't know how well it succeeds, but my guess is that it makes cherry picking better but not as good as darcs) |
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idnar |
ah |
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gal_bolle |
Heffalump: did you witnessify Commands/Changes.lhs? |
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Heffalump |
nope |
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Heffalump |
I still haven't got my other witnessification in a state to submit :-( |
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Heffalump |
the problem is that it's all tied up with my rebase branch. And untangling it is a perfect test case for rebase, and I keep finding problems with rebase doing so :-) |
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gal_bolle |
ok |
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gal_bolle |
do you mind in i try to do it? |
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Heffalump |
do what, witness everything else? |
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Heffalump |
or just Changes |
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Heffalump |
I'm fine if you do either, in any case. |
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gal_bolle |
i'm starting with changes |
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Heffalump |
though obviously you might feel you're wasting your time to do the things I have done but not submitted yet |
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gal_bolle |
^- because of this |
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Heffalump |
I'll try to get a move on. |
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