Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #darcs, 2010-03-11

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13:19 attila_lendvai hrm, i think i have a bug after a darcs2 conversion of a repo with several conflicts...
13:19 is it normal that darcs check finishes fine, but then a darcs pull ends up in "m doesn't conflict with mm in is_consistent"
13:19 ?
13:20 i've made sure that i've converted a merged repo of the two branches and recostructed the branches from that single conversion
13:20 im about 90% sure that i didn't screw it up, but...
13:25 the error happens when i record a patch in repo A and pull it into repo B which is about 100 patches ahead. this patch causes a conflict in the new repo. after that darcs pull dies with the message above
13:26 pulling all the patches from B to A works fine (besides marking a few conflicts)
13:27 err, no. darcs check works, but pull/push says the same error before askin anything
13:39 http://bugs.darcs.net/issue1763
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15:22 lelit uhm, I'm facing a strange problem: a coworker had problem pushing two patches on our common "master" repo (darcs refused to apply conflicting patches)
15:22 twb So what's the problem?
15:23 lelit so I copied (scp -r) the remote master repo on my local machine
15:23 edwardk @seen kowey
15:23 lambdabot Unknown command, try @list
15:24 lelit applying the patches with --mark-conflicts results in a really strange conflict; I don't get any trouble if instead I do the same on a clone of my current "working repo", that has no difference (in patches) from the master
15:25 twb edwardk: he reads the logs and only drops in when he sees something interesting -- kibo style
15:25 lelit all the repo are consistent with "darcs check"
15:25 edwardk twb: hah
15:25 twb lelit: working tree differences?
15:26 edwardk so if i chant his name three times he should appear? =)
15:27 twb No, that makes him put on his wizard robe and hat.
15:28 lelit twb: indeed! the master repo, even if "consistent", has a "wrong" file in the working dir!
15:28 how can it be?
15:29 twb lelit: you mean "darcs w -l" finds uncommitted changes?
15:30 lelit yes
15:30 so, ignore my noise, sorry
15:31 twb who has direct access to the canonical repo?
15:31 lelit me and my co-worker, but he just reminded me of an initial problem with permissions, when we opened the branch
15:32 it must be that
15:32 twb Very likely
15:32 Are you pushing via ssh or nfs?
15:33 lelit the former
15:33 twb Suggest making a "darcs" or "project foo" user, adding both your keys to its authorized_keys file, then having the repo owned by that dummy user
15:34 lelit nice hint, thanks
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15:49 mornfall Another option is to use g+s and ALL umask 007 in .darcs/defaults. I guess.
15:49 or _darcs/prefs/defaults or whatever.
15:49 twb mornfall: ah, I was stumped on the umask
15:49 Otherwise I'd have mentioned that
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18:46 lispy Heffalump: was mornfall able to apply your patches?
18:46 Heffalump: I don't see any traffic on the mailing list about it
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19:41 mornfall lispy: Yes, they should be on mainline now.
19:41 Seems that darcswatch is broken-ish.
19:42 lispy ah, yeah maybe ti's down
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22:17 kowey evening
22:19 edwardk: I also sometimes forget to read the logs
22:19 edwardk yo
22:19 its kibo!
22:19 how goes?
22:19 were you applying separately for gsoc this year? i forgot
22:21 kowey we're going to try to be part of the Haskell.org application - with a special request to Google to set aside an extra slot for us, if at all possible
22:21 edwardk sounds good
22:21 kowey we could also try to apply separately if you think that's best, but I tend to think we need some more time in Da Incubator
22:21 edwardk i was getting the application ready is why i felt i should ask =)
22:21 kowey :-)
22:22 you may find it useful to link to http://wiki.darcs.net/GoogleSummerOfCode
22:23 edwardk sounds good. i'll see if i can finish up everything tonight, and will definitely include a link!
22:24 * kowey should perhaps suppress the urge to comment on ESR's blog
22:24 edwardk hah
22:24 i had the same urge
22:24 mostly about the monad stuff
22:25 but i didn't want to come across as too 'needlessly academic' even though it is more 'neededly academic' at this point ;)
22:25 kowey part of me growing up is eventually getting it into my head (one day!) that you don't need to react everytime somebody says "darcs"
22:25 edwardk hah
22:26 i've yet to grow up. i jump every time someone says 'tracing jit' or 'comonad' ;)
22:26 or 'linear type'
22:26 or one of my many dozens of other toy areas. ;)
22:26 kowey :-)
22:28 edwardk i figure i won't grow up until i delete my reddit account at least ;)
22:28 i'd probably have to kill stackoverflow as well
22:30 gotta run
22:44 kowey dear #darcs, may I post something like this? http://etherpad.com/yiZkcOsaFu
22:49 oops, I couldn't resist expanding on conflicts - please feel free to edit the stupid/long-winded out of that
22:50 * Heffalump 's new laptop has arrived!
22:50 kowey yay!
22:53 lispy kowey: who are you sending that to and why?
22:53 kowey lispy: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1796
22:53 lispy Roger?  Eric?
22:53 kowey esr is curious
22:53 it's the old "darcs isn't really formalised" thing again, a complaint that our marketing is over-hyping the "smart" part
22:54 lispy ah, does anyone listen to esr?
22:54 * lispy doesn't
22:54 kowey which is a very slight misunderstanding (but a good point nevertheless)
22:54 well, it's also to curious on-lookers
22:55 lispy All the linked discussions are far too lengthy for me :)
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23:31 kowey The Relation of Version Control to Concurrent Programming - http://www.informatik.uni-frei[…]rogramming_TR.pdf
23:31 sounds like a good one for our bibliography
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