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I found a workaround. |
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mornfall |
Seems that the response code patch makes darcs segfault on OSX. (Or maybe it's something else, I am just guessing.) |
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mornfall |
See buildbot. |
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kowey |
good morning! |
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lambdabot |
kowey: You have 2 new messages. '/msg lambdabot @messages' to read them. |
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kowey |
oh my, lots of patches in |
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kowey |
maybe time to do an optimize --reorder on unstable now that we have that 2.5 tag in |
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kowey |
if issue2001 really was a case of unison eating a file, then yay hashed repositories |
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kowey |
this is the sort of thing that would have resulted in a corrupted old-fashioned repo, ticking time-bomb style |
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exlevan |
morning |
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kowey |
hi exlevan, mornfall (I wonder how patch191 broke the windows slave) |
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mornfall |
Hey. |
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kowey |
I would have guessed a more likely culprit to have been SSH URI support |
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mornfall |
Oh? |
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kowey |
just from the look of the error message, not any fancy thinking mind you |
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* mornfall |
logs into the windows box |
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mornfall |
I simply didn't notice any other patches touching the functionality. |
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mornfall |
So that was my deduction based on that. |
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mornfall |
I hate how ^C doesn't work with haskell programs on windows. |
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mornfall |
Building anything with cabal is a total mess now, thanks to mtl 2. |
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dcoutts |
you can pick one or the other using --constraint='mtl >= 2' or 'mtl < 2' |
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mornfall |
dcoutts: Yes, but you still get both linked in. |
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dcoutts |
um, what? |
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dcoutts |
you mean when doing cabal configure or install? |
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mornfall |
Well, my QC-2 and regex-base is built with mtl 2. |
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mornfall |
But plenty of packages don't built with it. |
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mornfall |
build* |
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dcoutts |
yes, cabal configure has to live with what packages are installed already |
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dcoutts |
cabal install --dry-run --constraint='mtl >= 2' will show you what it'd rebuild to make things work out consistently |
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mornfall |
What ticked me off somewhat is that darcs picked up mtl 2 when I used -ftest, but mtl 1 otherwise. |
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mornfall |
(Without explicit constraint, that is.) |
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mornfall |
Hm. Can it actually pick different mtl for different binaries in the package? |
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mornfall |
(Darcs does not build with mtl 2, but darcs.exe did build, while darcs-test.exe failed.) |
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mornfall |
Ok, it works now (luckily, it doesn't seem to be a problem to have both mtls linked in.) |
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dcoutts |
mornfall: no, all components of the package get consistent dependencies |
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mornfall |
dcoutts: In that case, it failed to rebuild some parts of darcs. |
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dcoutts |
anything else would be really confusing :-) |
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mornfall |
After reconfiguring. |
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mornfall |
Since Darcs.IO is used in both darcs.exe and darcs-test.exe and it only errored out in the latter. |
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dcoutts |
that could be a ghc bug, what ghc version? |
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mornfall |
(Due to overlapping instance with mtl 2.) |
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mornfall |
6.12.3 |
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dcoutts |
mornfall: sounds like it could be a bug in ghc --make 's recompliation checker |
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dcoutts |
if you can reproduce it then report it with as much detail as possible to help the ghc hackers reproduce it |
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mornfall |
The general bugginess of Haskell software is worrisome though. I have the feeling that it's often more buggy than more "traditional" software, not less. |
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mornfall |
kowey: You are right, it's not Alexey's patch but the SSH URI one. |
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kowey |
ah just right person! hey gal_bolle |
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kowey |
there's a chance you might be saying "I hate Windows" soon |
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gal_bolle |
am i not already? |
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kowey |
:-) did you spot the '"ssh": Could not resolve hostname C: no address associated with name' on darcs-devel? |
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kowey |
buildbot++ did its job |
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gal_bolle |
that might be because of ssh:// urls |
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gal_bolle |
i hate windows, but not for that reason |
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gal_bolle |
(line endings) |
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kowey |
oh ugh too (or ugh 2) |
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kowey |
and once upon a time Macs used \r only (I think) |
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mornfall |
Yes, they did. |
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mornfall |
Also, the OSX slaves have darcs segfaulting now. |
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mornfall |
In network tests. |
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mornfall |
(See backlog, I suspect it *might* be related to response error codes. Don't take my word for it, though.) |
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dixie |
hmm, I got idea to install darcsweb on windows for viewing repostories. How hard it is ? :) |
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dixie |
it works. |
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gal_bolle |
kowey: windows problem solved, i think |
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mornfall |
gal_bolle: You are in the core team nowadays? |
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mornfall |
(If so, grabbing buildbot-0.8 and running buildbot-try from contrib could help you confirm that...) |
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gal_bolle |
yes |
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gal_bolle |
thanks for the tip |
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* gal_bolle |
hopes to be ready for release management before release time comes |
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mornfall |
gal_bolle: (Btw. you can expect one failing test, which I so far failed to fix, so the result being red doesn't mean your fix didn't work.) |
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mornfall |
Check the output. |
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gal_bolle |
ok, thanks |
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gal_bolle |
how do I check which try is mine? |
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sm |
mornfall: interesting comment (bugginess of haskell software) - I don't think that's my experience. It's not a magic bullet though |
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sm |
plenty of bugs in darcs, for sure |
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mornfall |
And Xmonad, GHC, Cabal, of the tools that I use daily. |
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mornfall |
Although the recent floating layer hack made xmonad much more usable. :) |
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mornfall |
It's still far from perfect. |
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mornfall |
It may be related to the fact that I use these tools a lot, so I run into bugs in them more often. |
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mornfall |
Or maybe I just have higher expectations of them, given how they are Haskell. |
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mornfall |
Also, I suspect that a lot of what you gain on referential transparency, you lose on laziness bugs. |
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mornfall |
Since laziness *is* tricky. |
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lispy |
I've been using xmonad for a year now and only discovered the following bugs: 1) Java doesn't work well with it due to a java bug, 2) sometimes it puts my windows on the wrong desktop due this is due to problems with the X protocol and not Xmonad's fault, 3) I have to recompile/restart xmonad manually for some reason |
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lispy |
I'd say xmonad is one of the least buggy things on my entire linux install |
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lispy |
Gnome is about 100x more buggy, IMO |
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mornfall |
lispy: Interesting. The way how floating windows never worked on top of fullscreen windows always ticked me off horribly. There's a contrib extension with a partial fix now. |
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mornfall |
lispy: Also, there have been memory leaks in xmonad with decorations. |
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mornfall |
(Which is a bug in contrib, arguably, but it still broke xmonad.) |
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mornfall |
I agree that it's still the most usable window manager out there. But I am almost sure that wmii/awesome are more "stable" (albeit less featureful). |
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mornfall |
Similar argument could be made of darcs. |
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sm |
buggy: a project whose complexity currently exceeds it's available design clarity/testedness/maturity |
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lispy |
?tell iago http://hackage.haskell.org/package/Graphalyze <-- might help you with code metrics |
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lispy |
?tell iago http://hackage.haskell.org/package/Graphalyze <-- might help you with code metrics |
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lambdabot |
Consider it noted. |
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lispy |
lambdabot: space sensitive? |
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kerneis |
http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010[…]endency-analysis/ << he uses git cherry-pick but what he wants is darcs, actually |
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lispy |
?tell iago oh, and dons showed me this link too: http://code.haskell.org/~ivanm[…]omatic-complexity |
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lambdabot |
Consider it noted. |
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kowey |
kerneis: the recent thread about spontaneous branches etc may be of interest; didn't have time to read to follow-ups |
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kowey |
(on darcs-users that is) |
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kerneis |
Richard Jones already posted sth about cherry-picking actually: |
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kerneis |
http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010[…]cherry-pick-wins/ |
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kerneis |
(and I already told him to use darcs :-) |
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thorkilnaur |
mornfall, You guessed right: Following darcs unpull -p 'resolve issue1637: report HTTP response code for HTTP errors', the 6.10.4 OSX test network succeeds. |
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mornfall |
thorkilnaur: Thanks for diagnosing that. |
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mornfall |
kowey: I guess we are lucky that we always find a successor (re RMs). : - ) |
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* kowey |
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