Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #darcs, 2013-05-28

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16:57 * Heffalump appears
16:59 * mtp disintegrates
17:03 * marmoute concludes that Heffalump and mtp have equivalent energy
17:05 Heffalump we might just be substitutionally equivalent
17:06 * mtp mumbles something about commutative patches in an attempt to appear cool and with-it
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17:32 bsrk Hi
17:35 Heffalump so, what do we need to work out about your project? :-)
17:36 bsrk The project is also my internship
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17:36 bsrk and the starting date is a little late
17:36 Heffalump internship in what sense?
17:36 bsrk preferably, I would start early
17:37 bsrk My Bachelors has a mandatory internship
17:37 bsrk and A gsoc applies
17:38 Heffalump I see - are there any separate assessment requirements etc?
17:38 bsrk No, the assesment will be completly internal
17:38 Heffalump I'm fine with starting early, anyway - what dates?
17:38 bsrk Immediately?
17:39 Heffalump I guess :-) Ending when?
17:40 bsrk The usual dates.
17:40 bsrk 27th September?
17:41 bsrk My internship according to the college will end before, however.
17:41 Heffalump so you're planning on doing more work than the GSoC expectation in total? Sounds good to me!
17:41 bsrk :-)
17:43 Heffalump ok, so I guess the next ting is to get the basics in place - e.g. an initial blogpost.
17:43 bsrk Okay. I will write up one tommorrow.
17:46 Heffalump also an expected frequency of future blogposts, so you have a goal to stick to in keeping the blog up to date
17:46 bsrk How about once every two weeks?
17:48 Heffalump I guess that's an absolute minimum, but it should be ok as long as it really is a maximum of 14 days between blogposts.
17:49 bsrk Allright. A maximum of 14 days between posts.
17:52 Heffalump let's aim for meetings every few days until we see how things are going - does Friday at the same time work for you?
17:52 Heffalump for the next one that is
17:52 bsrk Allright. I am fine with Friday.
17:52 Heffalump there's also email and catching me on IRC ad-hoc, of course.
17:52 bsrk Yes, that sounds good.
17:53 Heffalump do you have enough to be going on with until then? Your project plan is obviously a good starting point.
17:54 bsrk Yes, I am expecting to finsh the github part by then.
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17:55 Heffalump excellent
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17:56 Heffalump it is well worth writing blogposts whenever you have something new that interested users could play with, it'll help with early feedback and the like
17:57 * Heffalump tries out github reg :-)
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17:58 bsrk I will keep that in mind, although I am not really used to blog posts
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17:59 Heffalump then this is an excellent time to develop that :-)
17:59 bsrk :-)
18:00 Heffalump To be honest it's something I don't do well either.
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18:01 * Heffalump successfully uses gsoc reg
18:02 Heffalump I mean github reg
18:02 bsrk I see. Good!
18:02 carter bsrk also: doing technical things visibly leads to ALL the cool professional opportunities
18:02 Heffalump one other thing I'll try to do is to track your branch myself, i.e. run my own server with your code and/or run it on my laptop
18:03 Heffalump also plenty of transferrable communication skills
18:04 bsrk True. I should just grit my teeth and bear the learning pain
18:04 carter that too
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18:11 Heffalump hmm, does darcsden have any tests at the moment?
18:11 bsrk heffalump: I don't think so
18:12 Heffalump ok, so you shoudl think about how you'll write tests for your new functionality
18:19 bsrk Heffalump: I think performance, and security are the most important
18:20 Heffalump things to test for?
18:20 bsrk yes
18:20 Heffalump performance is notoriously difficult to write automated tests for
18:20 Heffalump basic functionality would be a good start - i.e. unit and/or integration tests
18:20 Heffalump security may be easier, in a sense being secure is part of basic functionality
18:21 Heffalump so you can think about attacks and try to write tests that reflect those attacks
18:21 Heffalump my train is arriving, back in a while oherwise talk to you on Friday or before
18:22 bsrk Okay. It is getting a little late here, so pehaps we can continue on Friday?
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18:30 Heffalump indeed
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19:39 mornfall hmm
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19:57 Heffalump hmm?
20:12 mornfall I gather bsrk's project is on darcsden. What's the other?
20:16 Heffalump heuristics for record etc
20:16 Heffalump http://darcs.net/GSoC/2013-BetterRecord
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22:31 sm yay bsrk!
22:32 sm I'm no good example of this either, but I highly recommend you blog much more often - much more likely to stay on target and have a successful outcome that way
22:34 sm it needn't take more than 10 minutes, joey hess has been doing it daily for a year
22:49 mornfall I guess the record work won't include conjuring up hunk moves?
22:49 mornfall Or hooks into V3 Prims?
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23:28 Heffalump mornfall: not planned, but I'd hope it could become a stretch goal if things go faster than in that plan
23:28 mornfall Okey. I'll keep one eye on it. :-)
23:29 mornfall I have some students that are actually kinda hooked on darcs. :-)
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23:47 Heffalump should have got them to apply for GSoC :-)
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