Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #darcs, 2013-06-22

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07:29 adnap I just recorded a patch and I notice one more thing I want to add to the patch. What is the best way to modify it?
07:31 adnap Nevermind, I found amend-patch
07:35 Heffalump amend-record, but yes
07:38 adnap Yeah, I meant to type that. Anyhow, it works well
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11:53 onetom actually amend-patch sounds better, isn't it? because u r not amending the record operation itself, but the patch it has resulted in
11:54 onetom i just use amend, btw. never say or think about the -record part
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13:33 Heffalump onetom: well, you're recording more changes
13:33 Heffalump there's actually an amend-unrecord (which we left as a hidden command to now screw up the "amend" short version)
13:33 Heffalump or amend-record --unrecord which is a little bit strange
13:37 onetom okay, i didnt know about that. im not even sure how to interpret it
13:41 Heffalump interpret what?
13:41 Heffalump record puts changes into a new patch; unrecord takes all the changes out of a patch (thus deleting the patch itself); amend-record puts extra changes into an existing patch; amend-unrecord takes some of the changes out of an existing patch
13:42 onetom aaah, i see
13:43 onetom thanks for the explanation. i was comfortable with just unrecording and recording again when i put too much into a patch, so i haven't even missed this asymmetry so far.
13:46 onetom but both amend-record and amend-unrecord are deleting every trace of the original patch which got amended?
13:48 Heffalump the only thing that loses significant information is unrecord, which will delete the patch comments
13:49 Heffalump apart from that, record, unrecord, amend-record and amend-unrecord just add or remove changes from a patch, but keep them in the working copy
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15:44 onetom im familiar with this situation, because im a long time fan of the rebol language, which was closed source BUT FREE even for commercial use for about 15yrs and has just been open sourced in 2012-12-12
15:45 onetom it has shaped my thinking and allowed me to do certain things with very little effort, just because i haven't rejected it on the non-open-source basis.
15:47 onetom as a matter of fact, i can thank rebol that i live in asia now and dont have to struggle in hungary… it brought me to japan initially
15:47 declann eh, this isn't the consideration. I can download and see the code for the software that my proprietary piece uses to make its datastore. That helps me to go in and introspect whats going on
15:48 declann and to build up a model for the data structure dependencies
15:48 declann I'm not interested in having this conversation besides
15:50 declann mainly my advantage is that its an sql backend and I can simply convert it to a file structure
15:51 declann and also that that table struture is fairly straightforward
15:55 declann its an interesting project both from the pov of potentially improving our workflow (in work), besides where it could be used beyond that, and also of a demo of how we can integrate the basic theory of darcs and other VCSs to improve management of application-specific datastores
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