Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #darcs, 2013-07-11

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00:22 sm macph: I care about docs, and I overhauled the website front page a while back. But there's no clear "docs guy" currently AFAIK. There quit a few who work on docs, I'd check recent commits to find out who
00:25 sm folks interested in testing http pack support, that's now enabled on darcs hub also (in the repo edit screen)
00:25 sm night all
00:26 sm macph: best to use this channel instead of messaging me directly
00:27 macph same from me ...
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05:59 macph Hello ! Is someone here who manages Darcs on Mac related things ?
06:06 Heffalump I don't think anyone really manages them, a few people have done things like make binaries for it and perhaps update any documentation on the wiki
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06:14 macph my question is the same as yesterday ... who knows / decides that who does which things .... as I wrote before, I know the reason for http://bugs.darcs.net/issue2268
06:39 macph I sent the information to owst by email ...
06:49 Heffalump might be best just to put a comment on the bug
06:49 Heffalump but thanks for the info!
06:52 macph is it possible to comment ? the status is resolved
07:03 Heffalump I think so
07:03 Heffalump you can just enter text in the "Change Note" section and click "Submit Changes"
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11:13 macph I played around ... what I wrote before works also on a Lion machine (this time I used Haskell Platform in 32 bit) ... no problems with missing libs and no need to modify the cabal config file.
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18:17 sm g'day all
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18:35 sm hmm.. why does _darcs/patches have far more files than there are changes in the repo history ? Eg this darcsden repo with 771 changes has 35k files in patches
18:37 Heffalump it doesn't clean up after itself very well
18:47 * sm tests packs
18:47 * sm wonders why cabal install of latest darcs complains about Cabal 1.10 - https://gist.github.com/simonmichael/5978083
18:48 dcoutts sm: your old cabal is trying to compile a Setup.hs using an older Cabal lib, that doesn't exist
18:50 sm dcoutts: but cabal --version says 1.16.0.2 using version 1.16.0.3 of Cabal ?
18:50 sm and 1.16.0.3 is the only Cabal installed
18:50 sm 1.16.0 actually
18:50 dcoutts sm: probably a stale file in dist/
18:50 dcoutts clean it out
18:50 sm and I did cabal clean..
18:51 dcoutts oh but that tries to run the Setup.hs to clean
18:51 sm oh, but that failed, exactly
18:51 dcoutts rm -r dist/
18:51 sm so rm -rf dist
18:51 dcoutts it's an annoying corner of the spec that cleaning has to go via the Setup.hs
18:52 sm yeah a bit of a sharp corner
18:52 sm thanks dcoutts
18:52 dcoutts np
18:54 sm hi macph, please don't message me directly
18:55 sm your work is welcome, talk about it here
18:59 sm and/or the mail list or bugtracker. That way it's not wasted
19:01 macph done already during the day ... thought only I let you know because we talked yesterday about it
19:01 sm I'm not interested in that issue myself, just trying to help you find what you need
19:02 sm you were asking earlier about the darcs on mac maintainer ? He announced himself recently, I think on the darcs-devel list
19:03 sm you might want to join efforts
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19:09 macph Tamás Herman is already listed for this things ... to many people which do the same things will bring to many problems.
19:09 sm back to pack testing: I packed my darcsden repo on hub, which is built with latest libdarcs. darcs 2.8.1 get --packs reports some errors but seems to work, and quite a bit more quickly. Latest darcs-screened says "Problem while getting packed repository, getting it normally"
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19:13 sm macph: indeed, but it might be worth getting his help on this mac-specific bug you're working on - perhaps add him to the bug cc list, or mail him directly. Unfortunately he (onetom) hasn't been on here recently
19:13 sm and if he isn't responsive, that's useful info too
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19:16 macph yes, mailed it to owen he closed the bugreport as solved ... my result / solution makes me more happy.
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19:18 sm macph: it's http://bugs.darcs.net/issue2268 , right ?
19:18 sm and owst's solution is for mac devs to add --gcc-options="-mmacosx-version-min=10.7" ?
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19:21 macph I don't know his solution ... got no answer. Yes, this bug but build options are no solution for it.
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19:21 sm I think that's what his comment is pointing to - http://darcs.net/Binaries#mac-os-x -> Try compiling from source
19:21 sm and what's your solution ?
19:22 macph I think he will respond if he find it interesting ... the problem is, that Apple installs the OS with a case insensitive filesystem .... thats the simple solution why cabal don't find the libs
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19:23 sm ok, so you're providing more insight into the cause, I see
19:24 sm I just built darcs on osx 10.7.5.. does it only affect older osx ?
19:24 macph I want to know why - and I want a clean and working system
19:24 sm nod
19:26 sm oh.. it only happens it you try to build profiling libs ?
19:26 macph don't know, I can't reproduce the bug ... a cabal install darcs worked on 10.7 32 bit and 10.8 64 bit without problems but I had in the past troubles with a case insensitive filesystem
19:27 macph for me it worked also with profiling libs
19:27 sm works fine here also
19:28 macph as it is set in the default cabal config file
19:28 macph ok, good
19:28 sm CANT REPRODUCE, INVALID
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19:28 macph maybe it is solved without to set profile libs to false
19:29 sm are there different kinds of mac file system people are using ?
19:30 macph yes, default is mac os extended ... with or without journalling but it is not case sensitive
19:31 macph and there is also a mac os extended upper lowercase with journalled
19:31 sm mount says "(hfs, local, journaled)" here, and it is not case sensitive (or at least, it does that fuzzy case matching)
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19:33 sm I would add owst back on the nosy list and update the bug, saying we can't reproduce, adding the proposed workarounds from the wiki page, and removing them from the wiki page
19:33 macph who knows, maybe it workes now. a problem like that was also reportet for hakyll http://jaspervdj.be/hakyll/tutorials/faq.html#​file-name-does-not-match-module-name-on-mac-os
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