Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #darcs, 2013-12-29

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16:29 notdan sm: http://hub.darcs.net/co-dan/darcsden/patch/20131228104151-e7f45 what do you think of this patch?
16:29 notdan sm: and about breadcrumbs in general. The patch message has to be reformated, of course, I've noticed it only now
16:30 notdan I've been meaning to work on #83 but it's harder than I thought and might involve some code refactoring
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18:26 sm notdan: seems good - merged and deployed
18:28 sm is #83 worth spending time on ?
18:28 sm what's needed there ?
18:29 notdan WebUtils.notFoundPage has to be replaced with several functions that would display error messages with relevant templates
18:30 sm the goal is to provide a pretty 404 page, eh ?
18:30 notdan Yeah
18:30 notdan actually I just found the 'sitePage' function
18:31 notdan so it can be doable with some amount of HTML copuy and paste
18:31 sm good
18:31 sm have you worked much with other haskell web apps/frameworks  ?
18:36 sm in another project I've been writing some web code using blaze-html, right in the handler with no separate hierarchy of page templates. It's seriously efficient for a site with a regular structure like this
18:47 notdan I worked a lot with Scotty and I used hastache for templating. I tried blaze-html but I kinda prefer the separation of templating and logic
18:47 notdan for the same reason I am not very fond of HSP
18:48 sm given that only programmers are working on both logic and templates here, don't you find the constant flipping back and forth between separate handler and template code quite tedious ?
18:49 sm compared to having them in the same file ?
18:53 notdan Well in case of separate templates I can open a file and see the whole HTML page
18:54 sm I find most templates are page fragments
18:54 notdan Plus I can copy&paste stuff from bootstrap
18:55 notdan also I had to write some javascript code which is easiert to write and test if you have separate templates, IMHO
18:55 notdan https://github.com/co-dan/interactive-diagrams/tree/master/common/templates
18:55 notdan I thi nk its a matter of taste maybe
18:55 sm I also note this issue does not force the choice of templating system (much), if I have handler and view code in one place I can still use whichever of blaze-html, HSP, inline hamlet etc. best fits the need
18:56 notdan bbl need to pick up some groceries while the stores are still open
18:56 sm see you! o/
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20:41 notdan sm: http://hub.darcs.net/simon/darcsden/browse/src/DarcsDen/Handlers.hs#92 why is Session `s'` present there, you already have one `Session` that is aquired using `withSession`?
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20:49 notdan I also don't get whats up with darcsden.com. If it is unmaintained, maybe we should replace darcsden links of the wiki?
20:55 notdan eh, darcs status hangs
20:55 notdan oh just terribly slow
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21:03 notdan sm: this should work http://hub.darcs.net/co-dan/darcsden/patch/20131229205850-e7f45
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