Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #darcs, 2014-02-03

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18:17 gh_ hi
18:36 Heffalump hi
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19:02 gh_ http://google-opensource.blogspot.com.ar/2014/02/mentoring-organization-applications-now.html   deadline Feb. 14
19:04 gh_ I guess we will participate through haskell.org again, unless all committers appear and propose projects like crazy :-)
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19:47 sm Heffalump: nice, merged and deployed
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19:52 notdan Would cleaning up all the source file be a undertakable goal?
19:52 notdan Just running them through stylish haskell would suffice to some degree
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19:53 notdan also, what is the difference between Sealed and Sealed2?
20:10 sm notdan: I think stylish-haskell sounds like a good idea except for "Replaces some ASCII sequences by their Unicode equivalents"
20:12 notdan huh I didn't even know it does that
20:12 notdan I was mostly about sorting imports
20:12 notdan +thinking
20:13 notdan but that's for after I finish my current patch and it gets accepted
20:13 notdan in order to avoid conflicts :)
20:13 sm what's your current patch ?
20:16 notdan http://bugs.darcs.net/issue851
20:16 notdan After a week of evenings staring at the code I managed to understand how to exploint the InteractiveSelectionM monad
20:17 notdan So now I am rewriting my code in a more clear way
20:17 notdan don't want to duplicate too much
20:17 sm nice
20:42 notdan How can I convert an FL of patches to an FL of TaggedPatches?
20:47 notdan oh, there is a patchChoicesTps thing
20:57 sm do you have hoogle set up ?
20:58 notdan Haven't figured it out with the sandboxes yet
20:58 notdan does it work with them?
20:59 sm I'm not sure
20:59 sm you just point it at darcs src/ I imagine
21:00 sm might be worth doing for the darcs codebase
21:00 notdan hmn I totally forgot how to do that
21:00 notdan and hoogle --help is not much of a helper
21:04 sm http://neilmitchell.blogspot.com/2008/08/hoogle-database-generation.html -> Step 1 makes zero sense, anyway :)
21:05 sm I have no idea what he's talking about
21:05 sm http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Hoogle#Database_Creation seems to suggest "hoogle src" will do
21:06 sm nope
21:06 notdan Yeah that doc is outdate
21:06 sm huh
21:06 notdan I remember figuring something out, than trying to update the wiki but forgetting everything in the end :)
21:06 sm hoogle data --help .. it seems to want to process all installed libs ?
21:07 sm damn :)
21:07 notdan I think it downloads the data from the internet
21:08 sm this really should be easier, it's the obvious thing you'd want to do with command-line hoogle
21:09 Heffalump notdan: I tend to have a fair amount of pending work on darcs kicking around at any given time, so I'd rather you didn't reformat all the code
21:09 Heffalump if you are editing something anyway then definitely feel free to reformat it
21:10 Heffalump and sorting imports is less disruptive so I'd be less bothered about that
21:11 Heffalump notdan: Sealed abstracts away the last witness of a type, Sealed2 abstracts away the last two witnesses.
21:11 notdan Ok. I'll reformat the code in the modules I touched anyway. Do I have to make a separate patch??
21:12 Heffalump that would be better - easier to review
21:12 Heffalump if you've already reformatted it, then reformat a fresh checkout, record that patch, and copy your changed files over and re-record (if you're just working on a single pending patch)
21:13 Heffalump alos, ideally by "reformat what you're editing" I mean function by function, not file by file, but there's a trade-off between your convenience and mine :-)
21:14 notdan Well I plan only on reformatting the imports
21:15 notdan I figured that since I am already adding additional exports/imports I might do a tiny bit of cleanup
21:15 notdan eg: sorting, consitent parens, identation
21:17 notdan https://files.app.net/fzlcjXVL.png so far so good :)
21:17 sm it looks like cabal haddock --hoogle might generate a hoogle db in dist/doc, if you have no haddock errors
21:18 notdan I do! <no location info>:
21:18 notdan module `darcs-2.9.8:Main' is defined in multiple files: dist/build/tmp-61921/src/Darcs/Patch.hs
21:18 notdan dist/build/tmp-61921/src/Darcs/Patch/Annotate.hs
21:18 notdan dist/build/tmp-61921/src/Darcs/Patch/Apply.hs
21:18 notdan dist/build/tmp-61921/src/Darcs/Patch/ApplyMonad.hs
21:18 notdan dist/build/tmp-61921/src/Darcs/Patch/ApplyPatches.hs
21:18 notdan dist/build/tmp-61921/src/Darcs/Patch/Bracketed.hs
21:18 notdan and the list goes on
21:21 notdan I guess I can use http://hackage.haskell.org/package/darcs-2.8.4/docs/darcs.txt for now
21:21 sm I am not hacking on darcs code, but applying a consistent style to imports & extensions seems like generally a good move for project health
21:25 Heffalump notdan: that's fine
21:25 Heffalump sm: depends how much hassle it is to maintain, in part
21:25 Heffalump and what the extra value is in maing a transition compared to the disruption
21:26 sm well agreed, not everyone likes the                     far-indented unqualified imports style
21:27 Heffalump but then, I'm used to the code, so I perceive the value of a transition  as low
21:27 Heffalump whereas newer contributors would probably benefit mroe
21:27 sm but it seems like a project which can't make imports pretty is at end-of-life
21:27 sm it's partly marketing
21:28 Heffalump notdan: that error seems strange, all those files must have module headers
21:28 Heffalump oh, perhaps CPP is confusing it
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21:41 notdan Hm, darcs seems to take its time creating a patch index
21:42 Heffalump should be once-only
21:42 Heffalump (per repo)
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22:04 notdan ok i'll send you the patches tomorrow then :)
22:04 notdan good night
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