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IRC log for #darcs, 2014-04-01

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01:46 Topic for #darcs is now http://darcs.net/ | logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/darcs/ | darcs 2.8.4 is out http://darcs.net/Releases/2.8
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15:26 carter Q: whats the best current tool to export a darcs repo to gi?
15:26 carter as a onetime conversion?
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16:27 sm carter: darcs(-HEAD) convert --export | git fast-import
16:28 carter k
16:28 carter will that run fine with 2.8.4?
16:32 sm no, it's only in HEAD
16:32 carter does that build with 7.8 yet?
16:32 carter or is there a mac binary?
16:34 sm I don't know, sorry
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17:13 carter ok, the hashed-storage repo darcs get http://repos.mornfall.net/hashed-storage/ is no go
17:13 carter sooo i can't build head
17:13 carter fml
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17:13 Heffalump carter: there's a copy of hashed-storage inside the darcs tree
17:14 Heffalump I'm still confused about darcs and GHC 7.8 because I tried it and it works for me
17:14 Heffalump but perhaps theres a Linux-only issue
17:14 carter i'm on a mac....
17:14 carter and 7.8
17:14 carter ok, that seems to be install
17:15 carter why isn't 5.11 on hackage yet?
17:15 carter i can give you uploader powers or whatever
17:15 carter oh
17:15 carter kowey does too
17:15 carter point being... why isn't 5.11 on hackage?
17:17 carter Q: is current darcs head stable?
17:17 carter (wrt should i use it for when i need to use darcs)
17:17 carter no hurry
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17:18 carter holy crap does regex-tdfa take a while ;)
17:20 carter Heffalump: thanks :)
17:26 notdan hey carter
17:26 notdan so darcs head is fairly stable, I think
17:26 notdan I've been using it (well not current head, but couple of months old head) for a while
17:27 notdan regex-tdfa might take a while to build, but it has proper unicode support
17:27 notdan darcs 2.8 used regex-dfa and had weird unicode issues
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17:34 n-dolio Just don't build darcs head with GHC 7.8.
17:36 carter n-dolio: why.... thats what i just did...
17:36 carter is there a known issue
17:37 n-dolio It was very broken when I tried it a few days ago.
17:37 n-dolio For unknown reasons.
17:37 carter what sort of broken?
17:37 carter rc2 or current tip?
17:37 n-dolio rc2
17:37 carter ohh
17:37 carter you couldn't build
17:37 carter or it built but borked?
17:37 n-dolio Built but borked.
17:38 carter hrmm
17:38 n-dolio It complained a lot about not being able to contact repositories, like the one you're in, or ~/.cache/darcs
17:38 n-dolio And when you fetched a repository, it would be in a broken state that it didn't recognize as broken.
17:39 n-dolio Recording was impossible, too.
17:39 carter ../../darcs/dist/build/Darcs/darcs convert --export | git fast-import seems to  work :)
17:39 carter ok
17:39 carter well
17:40 carter n-dolio: should we add ghc-builder to github.com/haskell  ?
17:41 n-dolio I've never heard of ghc-builder.
17:42 carter its the stuff igloo wrote for ghc build bots
17:44 n-dolio I've also never looked at github.com/haskell, so I'm probably a bad person to ask.
17:45 carter :)
17:46 carter i have admin powers there now, so its more accessible for me than it was
17:47 sm carter: hooray
17:47 carter sm: i'm not installing it yet for the reasons dan dole says
17:47 carter *doel?
17:47 n-dolio Yes, el.
17:47 sm hooray re convert working
17:47 n-dolio Some things still work when built with 7.8.
17:47 n-dolio Like pulling patches from a remote.
17:48 n-dolio At least, I think.
17:50 n-dolio I ran into some weirdness when I rebuilt with 7.6.3 too, actually.
17:50 n-dolio Because I had some dynamic/shared options set from when I was in 7.8.
17:50 n-dolio And then at some point the 7.6.3 binary stopped being able to find the shared library.
17:50 n-dolio For reasons I don't understand.
17:51 carter bugs are weird
17:51 n-dolio I don't remember if 7.6.3 was actually supposed to have support for that that worked, though.
17:52 n-dolio So I just rebuilt it statically linked.
17:52 n-dolio I suppose that could be the problem with 7.8 darcs.
17:52 Heffalump carter: 5.11 isn't on hackage in part because we need to decide whether to just fold the source into darcs directly
17:53 carter Heffalump: does anyone else dep on it?
17:53 Heffalump I'm not sure - I suspect not. I use it (hashed-storage) in a personal project.
17:53 carter http://packdeps.haskellers.com/reverse/hashed-storage
17:53 carter huh
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17:56 Heffalump huh?
17:57 carter just "not many deps"
17:57 carter :)
18:01 sm I just built darcs-screened with 7.8.20140130 on osx 10.7 and also see a problem eg getting darcs-screened. It works with --no-cache
18:02 sm perhaps blowing away your darcs cache (wherever it lives these days) is a workaround
18:03 sm ~/.darcs/cache/, right ?
18:03 n-dolio I think it reads from that if it exists, but the new official location is ~/.cache/darcs.
18:03 Heffalump erk
18:03 n-dolio At least, on Linux.
18:04 sm aha
18:05 notdan sm: do you think it is a problem with hashed-storage?
18:06 sm I don't have any theory as yet
18:06 n-dolio I'm using the hashed-storage from in the repo even with 7.6.3.
18:06 n-dolio So, if the problem is in hashed-storage, it's a 7.6 vs. 7.8 bug there.
18:07 sm yes, it seems to work without --no-cache after renaming the cache dir. (And surprisingly it has not created either ~/.darcs/cache or ~/.cache/darcs )
18:09 sm oh it's ~/Library/Caches/darcs on osx
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18:10 Heffalump so you renamed the wrong cache and it still fixed a problem?
18:10 Heffalump or it was also reading those different caches?
18:12 n-dolio I don't have ~/.darcs/cache, by the way. I got rid of it.
18:12 sm no I was just confused. Deleting the old cache, or using --no-cache, avoids the cache failure during darcs get
18:12 n-dolio But maybe my new cache is in a state that it doesn't like or something.
18:13 sm n-dolio: try with --no-cache
18:13 sm hashed-storage has some tests, I'd run them here if I knew how
18:13 n-dolio sm: There are other problems. If you get a repo, enter it and whatsnew, does it work?
18:13 n-dolio Or, can you record a patch?
18:14 n-dolio I'd have to rebuild darcs to try with --no-cache. I might try it later.
18:15 sm n-dolio: whatsnew worked, but record doesn't
18:15 n-dolio Okay.
18:15 n-dolio Maybe the whatsnew is somehow cache related. It was complaining about missing pristine files from a freshly gotten repo.
18:16 sm probably
18:17 sm hm, --no-cache or deleting cache doesn't seem to fix record though
18:17 n-dolio Does it complain about an inventory file?
18:18 sm darcs failed:  Couldn't fetch `0000010635-b4d7911d8810ebd75157d43adf092a53ac8c6a4e7fd87304b582a51bcb607fd7' in subdir inventories from sources: ...
18:18 n-dolio Yeah, that's what I was seeing.
18:18 n-dolio I think you'll find that that file exists, though.
18:19 sm yes it does
18:20 sm I feel we've been seeing this kind of error since quite a while before 7.8
18:20 n-dolio Always on HEAD, though?
18:20 sm not sure
18:26 sm aha figured out hashed-storage-tests. With default options, they pass FWIW
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