Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #darcs, 2015-07-03

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01:47 Topic for #darcs is now http://darcs.net/ | logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/darcs/ | darcs 2.10.0 is out http://darcs.net/Releases/2.10
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14:12 notdan` Hello
14:12 notdan` Heffalump: ping
14:13 gh_ hi
14:24 gh_ Heffalump, re: sprint, currently yes we are 2 (+1). I've asked privately to a few current active contributors, we'll see
14:24 gh_ notdan`,  in which country to you live? I forgot about you :x
14:27 notdan` hm well in the Netherlands as of recently, but currently back in Russia
14:35 gh_ notdan`, do you know where you will be in september?
14:37 gh_ Russia is not so far from Paris in plane (well, Moscow :) )
14:40 notdan` in sept I will be in Amsterdam, which is even closer :)
14:40 notdan` 3 hours by train
14:41 gh_ notdan`, wow nice! during the weekend of 18th-20th we plan to have a sprint in Paris
14:42 gh_ http://lists.osuosl.org/pipermail/darcs-devel/2015-April/016805.html
14:43 notdan` yeah, I read Eric's email
14:43 notdan` I am not sure if I can come
14:43 notdan` i would like to
14:43 notdan` shit, i think i broke my external keyboarf
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14:44 gh_ notdan`, if it's a financial issue, you can get a refund of the travel costs
14:46 notdan` oh, really? are we getting sponsored :D
14:46 notdan` it is also a time/availability issue :(
14:51 gh_ notdan`, I see. maybe you can come Friday night (after working hours) and go back on sunday night, you would have 1 day 1/2 of sprint (usually on sunday afternoon everyone is leaving)
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15:18 gh_ on sunday afternoon I can stay until 18:00
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15:29 notdan` gh_: that sounds awesome; do you need my RSVP soon?
15:30 gh_ notdan`, no, if Heffalump agrees I'm going forward with reserving the sprint venue and we go with this
15:30 gh_ notdan`, and you can confirm later
15:30 notdan` cool :]
15:30 notdan` what the venue is going to be?
15:32 gh_ I'm going to ask again at IRILL, a research centre on free software. We already went there twice: http://blog.darcs.net/2013/02/darcs-hacking-sprint-8-report.html http://blog.darcs.net/2011/04/darcs-hacking-sprint-6-report.html
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17:45 gh_ https://www.reddit.com/r/haskell/comments/3b7gn0/abstract_filepath_proposal/
17:52 gh_ hopefully we'll take advantage of that in darcs 2.x ( with x > 12)
18:08 notdan I recall Heffalump complaining about sweeping changes like that a while ago :]
18:08 notdan but yeah, could be a good idea
18:09 gh_ It is currently just a proposal but it makes sense. We already have a lot of code to deal with FilePath's.
18:13 notdan hm yeah, and there is AbsolutePath in darcs as well
18:13 notdan which is not going to be included inthe proposal
18:13 maerwald I don't understand why I should care about performance of a string as small as a filepath
18:14 maerwald half of the AbstractFilePath proposal seems to deal with improving time and space behavior
18:17 gh_ maerwald, when you start using data structures that track all pristine files of a repository it can make a difference (for instance the patch index)
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18:23 notdan what the... I am using cabal from GHCJS?
18:23 notdan and have been using it for more than a year now
18:23 notdan what the hell
18:27 * Heffalump appears
18:28 Heffalump maerwald: actually I think our FilePath handling is a significant performance cost
18:28 Heffalump I think mornfall did some experiments that showed it was important for performance to set CWD and do relative operations from there, for example
18:29 Heffalump gh_: that's fine with me. I don't mind sprinting with just you if that's the end result :-)
18:29 gh_ Heffalump, yeah me neither :D
18:32 gh_ let me contact IRILL then
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18:53 notdan Heffalump: hey, do you want to have a meeting tomorrow evening?
18:53 Heffalump ok - 8pm London time ok?
18:55 notdan could we do it a bit earlier? say, 7:30?
18:56 Heffalump Should be possible - what times are you available? I'll need to fit around dinner+kids bedtimes so even earlier is probably better than that exact time.
18:58 notdan ah, I am not sure when I will be available earlier, and dinner+kids are imporant; let's do it at 8pm then
18:59 Heffalump ok, thanks. I'll probably be online off and on before then so if we happen to sync up then great.
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19:57 notdan uhh I think I got a lazy IO bug somewhere in my code
20:42 Heffalump what are the symptoms?
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20:44 notdan errors are thrown before the directory is created
20:45 notdan but  I figured it's actually something different - DarcsDen.Darcs.init removes the whole dirrectory upon exception
20:48 Heffalump just make sure your code typechecks: https://twitter.com/bos31337/status/116372971509121025
20:48 notdan haha
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