Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #darcs, 2016-04-30

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07:07 Heffalump hmm, Debian stretch might not be until 2017, not sure if we can drop GHC 7.6 from branch 2.13 :-/
08:19 kaol Definitely not released in 2016.
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14:32 sm gh, it appears the stack install instruction has to be: stack install --resolver nightly-2016-04-30 darcs-2.12.0
14:49 sm the new repo-wide hash sounds great! why is it called Weak ?
14:50 sm how do I see a dep graph like you showed.. darcs show dep | dot something something ?
14:51 sm examples for each new feature will help adoption
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15:15 Heffalump sm: it's easily fakable, so not secure (at least I think that was the reason, I forget exactly now..)
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15:53 gh_ sm, see darcs help show dependencies
15:53 gh_ sm, thanks for the stack instructions
16:21 ackthet what web interfaces are people using with darcs? looks like darcsden or darcsweb are the main ones?
16:21 * ackthet is very new to darcs
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16:47 Heffalump ackthet: yes, that's right. Not too sure of the status of darcsweb, darcsden is being actively developed.
16:59 maerwald ackthet: darcsden needs a complete rewrite. The way it uses snap is not really state of the art. E.g. it doesn't use Snaplets or templating.
16:59 maerwald and it's not thread safe
16:59 maerwald and there is no https
16:59 sm +1
17:00 maerwald so write patches :P
17:00 sm ha ha that's easy to say
17:00 sm I think about it
17:01 sm not patches - a rewrite
17:01 maerwald sm: btw. I'm currently playing with mongoDB, but the haskell library has a few things that annoy me
17:01 maerwald e.g. the Alternative class for the main Action type is sort of broken
17:01 maerwald query "something" <|> query "someFallback" -- doesn't work
17:02 ackthet so... there isn't really a great web ui?
17:02 maerwald then it's missing pretty fundamental stuff like population of Object references in the result
17:02 sm I know very little about mongodb, except technical people seem not to like it
17:02 maerwald certainly better than unmaintained CouchDB
17:02 maerwald but the best thing would be Postgres with their json extension
17:03 sm I think couchdb isn't a good fit for darcsden, and postgres or sqlite or the filesystem are the best options
17:04 maerwald ackthet: well, darcsden works, but whether the UI is great is probably up to debate. I don't think any "designer" has been working on it, so the css style etc is probably not professional
17:05 maerwald sm: yeah, but migrating from couchdb to anything else will be a huge pain anyway and probably not happen for the main site
17:05 sm FLOSS weekly did couchdb recently, which was informative. They said "couchdb is the git of databases". BUt I'm not sure that sent the right message :)
17:05 maerwald haha
17:05 sm I don't see migration being too difficult, it's just a bunch of metadata
17:05 sm just requires some full time work, is all
17:07 gour does development of Pijul help darcs in some way or it's mostly vice-versa?
17:08 ackthet darcsweb looks dead sadly, last release 2008
17:08 ackthet nearly 10 years ago :(
17:09 ackthet well, late 2008 so maybe thats not quite fair
17:09 sm it probably still works. It was very useful
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