Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #darcs, 2016-05-19

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01:47 Topic for #darcs is now Darcs/Pijul Sprint, Helsinki, 6th-8th May http://darcs.net/Sprints/2016-05 | http://darcs.net/ | logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/darcs/ | darcs 2.10.3 is out http://darcs.net/Releases/2.10
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18:52 sm fr33domlover, pointfree: any luck with updating the ssh lib ?
18:53 sm I got another report of darcs hub's lack of a modern key exchange method
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19:48 fr33domlover sm, good question! pointfree, any progress? I don't mind trying to do this myself but pointfree already made some progress which I'd like to hear about too :P
19:49 Heffalump I thought the plans got stalled by the discovery of an alternate library?
19:49 fr33domlover I know almost nothing about crypto so for me it will be easier to move to ssh-hans than update ssh
19:49 fr33domlover But ssh-hand isn't on Hackage yet
19:49 fr33domlover dunno if that's an issue
19:50 fr33domlover *ssh-hans
19:51 fr33domlover I did make updates to 'ssh' and been using my updated version for a while. But I didn't change the key exchange stuff, that's pointfree's work
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20:56 pointfree (building to see if darcsden will work with ssh-0.4 ...)
21:00 pointfree I've been using the new kex on http://odroid.0xffffffff.in:8900/ but without fr33domlover's changes.
21:02 fr33domlover Heffalump, I think my changes and pointfree's are at least worth an ssh-0.4 release :P the only change that's slighly controversial is the usage of modexp from integer-gmp in place of OpenSSL, you can drop that specific patch
21:04 fr33domlover pointfree, did you try porting darcsden to ssh-hans by chance?
21:18 Heffalump I can't quite remember the status of pointfree's changes - I think I couldn't merge them until the modexp issue was resolved
21:18 Heffalump pointfree, do you remember? I would indeed like to release a new ssh with what we have up to now.
21:24 pointfree I did some work on porting darcsden-ssh to ssh-hans, but I didn't finish... Looking for the darcsden repo where I started that port... and also looking to see if my orginal kex stuff can work with ssh-4.0 and simon/darcsden (for until darcsden-ssh-hans arrives)
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21:57 pointfree I have merged my ssh kex changes with fr33domlover's monad refactorings etc. However, I can't test it until darcsden-ssh is ported over to use fr33domlover's new monad api. I am not so familiar with the changes fr33domlover made.
21:58 Heffalump right, yes, that was the other thing I was waiting for - some sample code and the relevant changes to darcsden-ssh
21:58 fr33domlover I can test
21:58 fr33domlover I have code that uses my modified ssh
21:58 pointfree ssh at least compiles with with both our changes merged in the same repo. I will upload the merged repo.
21:58 Heffalump pointfree: and without the modexp patch (that I don't want to accept)?
21:58 fr33domlover http://dev.rel4tion.org runs a web app which uses my modified ssh
21:59 fr33domlover I can use pointfree's new version there
21:59 fr33domlover and then we can freely test it etc.
21:59 fr33domlover (I can port darcsden too but not now, already busy)
21:59 pointfree My merged copy uses the original modexp and rng.
22:00 fr33domlover pointfree, you can safely move to using DRBG for rng, which is what my patches do
22:00 fr33domlover then we reduce the OpenSSL dependency slightly more etc.
22:01 fr33domlover but it's not critical, it's Heffalump's decision
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22:09 pointfree alright: http://hub.darcs.net/pointfree/darcsden-fr33domlover_and_pointfree_newkex (we'll see if it works)
22:10 pointfree actually, it's looking like modexp is done by the curve25519 library.
22:26 pointfree woopsies... I meant http://hub.darcs.net/pointfree/ssh-fr33domlover_and_pointfree_newkex
22:26 pointfree (renamed)
22:58 fr33domlover (oops, I meant http://dev.seek-together.space in that URL I mentioned)
22:58 fr33domlover (it's 2 AM, excuse me :P)

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