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IRC log for #darcs, 2017-04-11

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01:47 Topic for #darcs is now http://darcs.net/ | logs: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/darcs/ | darcs 2.12.5 is out http://darcs.net/Releases/2.12
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12:26 waldyrious Hi all. I would like to get the secret for creating a new wiki account. I already have an account in the bug tracker (http://bugs.darcs.net/user2302), but I'm not sure the wiki accounts can be connected to them
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12:52 Heffalump waldyrious: what do you want to change on the wiki? (apologies for the third-degree, it's being hit hard by spam)
12:55 waldyrious Heffalump no worries, I undestand :) I am a long-time Wikipedian and like to help out with wikis of projects I take interest in whenever possible. Right now my intent was to fix a broken link in http://darcs.net/Theory/GaneshPatchAlgebra
12:56 waldyrious but I have been reading stuff from the wiki every now and then, depending on my current interests, so I will likely bump into other small fixes I might contribute
12:57 Heffalump ok, that sounds convincing enough :-) the secret is patch-based-version-control
12:57 waldyrious Hahah makes sense!
12:58 waldyrious thanks for the trust. I'll create an account under the same username, but I assume it isn't connected in any way to the bug tracker, right?
13:04 Heffalump correct
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13:36 waldyrious by the way, Heffalump, do you know who I could ping regading http://bugs.darcs.net/issue2477 (upgrading the wiki to the latest gitit version)?
13:36 waldyrious (sorry if you said anything after "correct" -- I had an issue with my connection)
13:46 sm waldyrious++
13:51 waldyrious sm: just to be sure, is that a +1?
13:53 sm waldyrious: yes indeed
13:53 sm I think that person will be Heffalump or gh_
13:58 waldyrious ok, thanks :) I'll stick around for a while.
14:03 gh_ hi
14:24 waldyrious Hi gh_. I was wondering if you could give some idea about whether http://bugs.darcs.net/issue2477 (upgrading the wiki to the latest gitit version) is actionable or whether there are any difficulties not mentioned in that thread
14:36 sm it's running gitit 0.10.0.1, installed in 2012. It should be relatively easy to cabal install the current version
14:36 sm I think I used to have sudo access, but have lost my password
14:36 sm otherwise I would give it a shot
14:40 sm (and the OS is debian squeeze from 2011, last updated in 2015)
14:54 gh_ I have hardly touched darcs.net as a server so I'm not sure. As I can see, seems like the gitit currently used was not cabal installed but is from a debian package.
14:54 waldyrious Yes, that's the comment from the thread in the issue tracker
14:55 waldyrious I suppose that using cabal would allow upgrading the wiki without having to wait for Debian's release cycle
14:55 gh_ ah alright
14:55 waldyrious if it's a viable alternative, perhaps it should be considered :)
14:58 gh_ I agree we need an update but I think Heffalump has root access to actually do it
15:59 sm added some notes on http://bugs.darcs.net/issue2477
17:24 Heffalump the VM darcs.net is hosted on isn't very easy to upgrade, so OSU gave us a new one to migrate to 18 months ago. I'm afraid I have got stalled on actually doing that (it's tricky partly because they also wanted us to migrate roundup to postgres)
17:25 sm my vote is for a linode, easy to install whatever you want and resize it how you want
17:28 Heffalump the real issue is migrating away from what we have, no matter what the target
17:28 Heffalump IMO
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17:35 sm how so ?
17:36 sm I imagine it happening piecemeal over time
17:36 sm starting with the wiki
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17:44 Heffalump yeah, the wiki should have been pretty easy to move, the main thing I got stuck on there was getting access to the darcs.net DNS so I could repoint it
17:51 sm oh yeah.. who has that access ?
17:55 sm darcs devs need direct control of that, for sure
17:59 Heffalump I think we have it in principle, it was just figuring out the details
18:00 Heffalump the long and short is that I ran out of energy at the time and haven't got back to it since
18:00 Heffalump I think Eric has some permissions for it
18:01 Heffalump probably the best way to get this moving again is (a) make a list of what needs to be done, (b) start working through it, with whoever can helping
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18:15 sm how does this sound for next steps: 1. current project lead (you or gh_ ?) regains DNS access 2. project lead makes the call on whether to a. use OSUOSLs new machine or b. get our own linode 3. if a, you get that machine up at least to the point where others can help. If b., I'm ready to help some more
18:22 Heffalump linode implies needing to pay for it too, of course
18:22 Heffalump I mean darcs funds paying, or whatever
18:22 Heffalump gh is officially the project lead
18:31 sm gh_: you have power to disburse some darcs funds, right ? and maybe DNS access ?
18:36 sm if asked, I'll volunteer to set up a mirror of the wiki on a new linode in my account, today, and transfer it to you whenever you want
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