Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #fuel-dev, 2015-11-18

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15:34 RageLtMan hi guys, i've not forgotten the templates and MSF module primer i owe you. I'm in transit till Friday basically at different security events so i'm a bit out of the loop this week. my apologies for the lag time
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16:23 holser hi RageLtMan that’s really cool
16:24 holser will look forward to seeing templates … it’s so tempting
16:41 RageLtMan We may want to start an open NASL resource to use with Nessus and OpenVAS (not looking to play industry favorites with security), like a github repo containing specific NASL scripts to address each CVE we get
16:42 RageLtMan i actually just spent a couple of days with the guy who invented CVE, humbling experience :)
16:44 RageLtMan i'm trying to get a hold of some of my contacts in finserv and telco to get a temperature reading on an industry group to actually red-team these things because there are so many variants of configurations and components that we probably want to approach this from a top-down perspective with Fuel essentially being the remediation point in deploying patches, hardenning configs, etc etc. will require the "lifecycle management"
16:44 RageLtMan aspect of Fuel to work properly, but i dont see any other way to actually affect proper remedial action than to implement LCM
16:45 RageLtMan This is where i miss the granularity of control i get with Chef, but at the same time, that granularity is what really causes the deluge of potential security issues.
16:46 aglarendil RageLtMan: in long-term roadmap we are going to support all benefits of chef combined with all benefits of Fuel
16:48 RageLtMan puppet makes my common sense hurt
16:48 RageLtMan :)
16:48 aglarendil it does not really matter which utility you use to install packages and install services from my PoV
16:48 RageLtMan though it would be nice to have a broker mechanism to hand off LCM to a configuration management platform of the user's choosing, but the beef there would be that we would need baseline "cookbooks/modules/whatever-else-other-CMs-call-it" for every major mechanism
16:49 aglarendil well, the idea is to integrate with configuration management and use puppetmaster/chef-server as a source of attributes for deployment tasks
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17:08 RageLtMan aglarendil: that sounds awesome, is there a blueprint around for this?
17:09 RageLtMan for us, it would be a godsend as Fuel currently breaks our workflow pretty badly (which is ok, we dont manage a lot of openstack clusters currently), and as we scale up the manual approach to system modification wont scale with us
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17:34 aglarendil RageLtMan: it is being discussed actively, but there is no spec yet
17:35 aglarendil this is a big step up for us to switch from installator to full cycle management utility
17:35 aglarendil we want to do it properly
17:35 aglarendil so we expect full-scale solution in 9.0
17:35 aglarendil and in 8.0 we want to introduce some of the things like partial configuration management
17:39 RageLtMan definitely a sea change in terms of operating semantics and considerations, but very welcome on our end
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