Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

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02:14 grimlock86 Anyone know what happened to http://mirror.fuel-infra.org/mos-repos/ubuntu/7.0/archive-mos7.0.key?  It was there a few days ago and now it gives a 404.
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11:52 skolekonov Guys, can we merge this spec update? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246821/
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16:07 Nikolay_St hi all
16:08 Nikolay_St do you have weekly meeting here or in openstack-meeting-alt?
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16:39 Nikolay_St uhm
16:41 Nikolay_St will we have meeting about FFE today?
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16:50 mihgen what are we getting out of this merge, and what we are losing if we don't merge? 1 week sounds like a lot. What are the risks associated?
16:50 vkramskikh anoga_ - I think it's the question for you
16:50 xarses this is just the ui for the API right?
16:50 xarses is the API already merged?
16:50 Sheena it enables us to provide clear and consistent messaging to users about the compatibility of components (plugins *and* core components), and should enable multiple backends storage and networking
16:50 Sheena also, it is required if we want to deprecate nova-network
16:50 Sheena because this enables us to map multiple HVs to multiple networking selections
16:50 Sheena otherwise we have no networking selection that covers both vCenter and QEMU/KVM
16:50 ikalnitsky i'm tired with nova-network deprecation. it it will allow us to drop it, i'm +1 with ffe
16:50 Sheena everyone hates nova-network, this is our opportunity to kill it with fire
16:50 mihgen vkramskikh: are there any risks to other functionality?
16:50 mihgen any potention regression if we merge this code?
16:50 xarses It's all UI at this point, I'm +1 for FFE since we can just revert it if we don't like it
16:50 vkramskikh only the wizard is affected
16:50 akasatkin afaic, it touches UI only for now
16:50 mihgen vkramskikh: can you guys actually spend time on it, taking into account that we'd need to keep up with quality bar?
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16:52 Topic for #fuel-dev is now Fuel Development http://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Fuel | Paste here http://paste.openstack.org/ | IRC logs http://irclog.perlgeek.de/fuel-dev/ | gerrit traffic @ #fuel-tracker
16:52 mihgen link?
16:52 anoga_ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251278/
16:52 anoga_ This feature is important for WF
16:52 anoga_ UI patch is already merged
16:52 mihgen 553 lines proposed 2 days before FF.. ?
16:53 igajsin1 We got request for this feature on last week only
16:53 anoga_ On Friday
16:53 mihgen from email - The change itself is a low risk patch. Why do we think it's low?
16:54 ikalnitsky I don't like that we have a lot of FFE. :( Every release we want to get rid of exceptions and we're still not there. From backend POV, these 500 lines in backend are in the vmware objects. So basically, there's a really low chance to break something else.
16:54 mihgen ikalnitsky: did you  /other cores had a look at that patch?
16:54 ikalnitsky yes, i did
16:54 ikalnitsky it's in vmware handler, and vmware validator
16:54 ikalnitsky that's it
16:54 anoga_ We are currently working with Igor on this patch
16:54 ikalnitsky so there's only chance to break vmware
16:55 mihgen take into account time you all would need to spend on all these FFE folks. And at the same time to spend time of fixing bugs and keeping up with the quality bar
16:55 mihgen how far this patch from being complete?
16:55 anoga_ 2-3 days
16:56 mihgen ikalnitsky: are you incling to accept as FFE? if so, what deadline do we set?
16:57 xarses ikalnitsky: I think we can reduce FFE buy not starting a new iteration the week before FF
16:57 xarses s/buy/by
16:57 mihgen we don't start a new iteration the week before FF
16:57 mihgen it was jump in the mid of iteration
16:58 ikalnitsky why me? let's ask PTL :D from my pov - the risk  that it'll affect core is low
16:58 ikalnitsky so i'm ok with it to be ffe.
16:58 ikalnitsky as long as it will be reviewed
16:58 ikalnitsky by other folks
16:58 mihgen angdraug could not make it :(
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16:59 mihgen anoga_: do you have agreement on time to spend with some other cores?
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16:59 anoga_ Not yet. But i will ask sgolovatiuk
17:00 ikalnitsky anoga_: wait. i thought there's no patch to library here
17:00 ikalnitsky or you have one?
17:00 anoga_ no
17:00 mihgen we need fuel-web people then
17:00 ikalnitsky then you need to ask some fuel-web cores to review it
17:00 ikalnitsky :)
17:00 anoga_ i will ask you and Ivan Kliuk
17:00 anoga_ sorry
17:00 anoga_ my mistake
17:01 mihgen ok then deadline - Tuesday?
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17:01 anoga_ Yes
17:01 ikalnitsky ok
17:01 mihgen time folks, I'd like to finish with last one exception though
17:01 mihgen good.
17:01 mihgen #topic Support murano service broker https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/implement-support-for-murano-service-broker
17:01 Nikolay_St hi all
17:02 Nikolay_St so, we have 2 patches for this bp one for fuel-web and one for fuel-lib
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17:02 mihgen all - please update other blueprints status down to the etherpad. If not implemneted - I'll be moving out of 8.0
17:02 ikalnitsky I wasn't even aware about this patch. I can't comment one for fuel-web.
17:03 ikalnitsky i see akasatkin's +1. could you please comment?
17:03 mihgen https://review.openstack.org/#/c/246843/ ?
17:03 Nikolay_St I'd like to ask for FFE because this is a new murano service which probably won't break anything
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17:03 mihgen patch is like yaml/json + test
17:04 ikalnitsky yep
17:04 ikalnitsky seems this patch is safe
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17:04 ikalnitsky and i think i can merge it right now
17:04 mihgen Nikolay_St: how far is it from being complete?
17:04 ikalnitsky what about library?
17:04 jaranovich Nikolay_St:  it also planned to be experimental feature, right?
17:04 mihgen do you need more patches?
17:04 akasatkin seems to be safe
17:04 Nikolay_St mihgen: no, that's all
17:04 akasatkin (fuel-web)
17:04 mihgen then let's merge it now :)
17:04 Nikolay_St jaranovich: sure, this is experimental for 8.0
17:04 ikalnitsky what about lib?
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17:05 mihgen Nikolay_St: do you need fuel-library part for it?
17:05 Nikolay_St ikalnitsky: it was introduced today, so we need some time for review
17:06 Nikolay_St mihgen: yeap
17:06 Nikolay_St this why I ask for FFE
17:06 ikalnitsky holser___: are you aware of this?
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17:06 mihgen Nikolay_St: share patch pls
17:06 holser___ I am
17:06 Nikolay_St mihgen: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252356
17:07 mihgen holser_: opinion? risks?
17:07 ikalnitsky fuel-web patch is merged. even without library, it won't break anything.
17:07 holser___ library patch can be merged
17:07 ikalnitsky but probably i hurried.
17:07 holser___ +1 to FFE
17:07 mihgen ok deadline to complete?
17:07 mihgen Tuesday?
17:08 holser___ I guess so
17:08 Nikolay_St mihgen: holser___ +1
17:08 Nikolay_St I mean Tuesday is ok
17:08 mihgen if we don't meet deadlines, no other exception folks
17:09 mihgen it's already like pushing FF furhter down with so many exceptions..
17:09 mihgen Ok agreed. That's it from exceptions
17:09 mihgen thanks everyone
17:09 mihgen please don't forget to update other blueprints, so that we can have accurate picture on 8.0 deliverables
17:10 Nikolay_St thank, guys
17:10 anoga_ thanks
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17:16 mihgen dklenov: do you know if https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/openstack-config-change implemented?
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17:24 sbanka_ Mike...
17:24 sbanka_ all patches have been merged but we have critical issue discovered by QA team: https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1521929
17:24 sbanka_ we already have solution for that: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252472/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252463/
17:25 sbanka_ one patch is directly connected with our feature and we expect to have it merged today
17:25 sbanka_ the second patch needs to extend serializer and this I expect to have merged tomorrow
17:25 mihgen sbanka_: if feature is merged, can you please update bp status.. ?
17:25 sbanka_ yep
17:25 mihgen it's ok if we find bugs after we merged..
17:25 mihgen we just need to fix them quickly
17:25 mihgen thx
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