Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #fuel-dev, 2015-12-14

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13:03 javeriak hey... if anyone's around; would appreciate if someone could tell me the different between 'groups' & 'role' deployment_tasks. It isnt apparent, when to use which.
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13:56 bpiotrowski repeating my question from #fuel-infra – https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256973/ all gate jobs failed there
13:56 bpiotrowski anyone has a clue why?
13:58 bpiotrowski javeriak: roles are used for pre-deployment and post-deployment stages, while groups for "regular" deployment stuff
13:58 javeriak thanks bpiotrowski; so the stuff you specify after groups are also roles?
13:59 javeriak and can we specify pre/post-deployment tasks within deployment_tasks or are those only kept in tasks.yml?
14:00 bpiotrowski I'm actually not sure, but I think the first is correct
14:00 bpiotrowski mattymo, ikalnitsky: ↑
14:02 ikalnitsky bpiotrowski: javeriak: in few words - groups are roles for deployment stage, not for pre/post deployment.
14:03 javeriak got it; thanks ikalnitsky
14:03 ikalnitsky groups are more advanced way (in compare with roles) to declare deployment strategy
14:03 ikalnitsky see they declarations here - https://github.com/openstack/fuel-library/blob/master/deployment/puppet/deployment_groups/tasks.yaml#L27-L34
14:05 javeriak ikalnitsky  okay thats confusing; i thought type:group was used when you were applying lots of tasks on a role
14:05 javeriak i was asking about 'role' vs 'groups'
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14:06 ikalnitsky didn't i just give you an answer? :)
14:06 ikalnitsky groups are stands for these groups (ones that were declared via type:group)
14:08 ikalnitsky well, okay, look. there's no synchronisation primitives for tasks. 'role' just points on which nodes you need to run certain tasks. that's it.
14:08 javeriak i seem to be confusing myself :); so when type:group is used with tasks, we are applying all those tasks on the role specified. But when type: group is used on its own; we are declaring a group?
14:08 ikalnitsky but what to do if you want to run some task on primary-controller? and only then on other nodes?
14:09 javeriak i thought u declared priority in such cases
14:09 ikalnitsky that's where groups came. we saying that primary-controller should be deployed first, then - controllers, then - whatever-else
14:09 ikalnitsky there's no priorities in deployment graph
14:10 javeriak i meant when you do a 'stage: post_deployment/7001'; or is not applicable to main deployment?
14:10 ikalnitsky it's not a deployment tasks
14:10 ikalnitsky it old tasks.yaml
14:11 ikalnitsky tasks.yaml and deployment_tasks.yaml are different things
14:11 ikalnitsky we never have "priorities" in core tasks
14:11 ikalnitsky we have dependencies and that's it
14:12 javeriak as far as i understand; so tasks are for pre/post-deploy stuff and deployment_tasks.yml is for the main deployment?
14:12 ikalnitsky nope
14:12 ikalnitsky deployment_tasks supports pre/post deployment either
14:12 ikalnitsky but without priorities
14:13 ikalnitsky there's requires and required_for
14:13 javeriak ah okay, yes you can specify requires etc;
14:13 ikalnitsky in tasks.yaml - you aren't able to do so
14:14 javeriak can u do this then: required_for: [pre_deployment_end] requires: [pre_deployment_start] ?
14:15 javeriak is there any more documentation on this stuff btw?
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14:19 javeriak gotta step out for a bit; will login a little later ikalnitsky
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14:58 pma fuel-web team please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245135/
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19:25 xarses https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257445/
19:25 xarses @holser_: ^
19:33 holser_ xarses I’ve already merged
19:33 xarses cool
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22:05 mwhahaha can you have a fuel plugin with no role defined?
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22:45 ashtokolov mwhahaha yes, afaik you can override existing deployment tasks for existing roles if you use the existing task-id in your plugin deployment_tasks.yaml
22:46 mwhahaha you can't build a plugin without defining a role
22:46 mwhahaha at least it seems that way
22:47 ashtokolov hm, originally there was no way to define a new role
22:48 mwhahaha well with v3 of the plugins it'll error on you when you try and build without a role
22:49 ashtokolov yeah it was in plugin v2 and v2 update https://github.com/openstack/fuel-plugins/blob/master/examples/fuel_plugin_example_v2/tasks.yaml
22:49 mwhahaha also i can't seem to get the stage: definition to work in v3 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/fuel/+bug/1526088) the docs don't seem to indicate which version stage works with
22:50 mwhahaha i wish we could define a hidden role in node_roles if we don't need it
22:51 ashtokolov ikalnitsky, evgenyl could you help with plugin_v3 w/o new role
22:52 mwhahaha the temp work around is to just create one but it seems like a silly requirement
22:52 mwhahaha especially if you're trying to create a master specific plugin
22:54 ashtokolov mwhahaha take a look at this one https://github.com/openstack/fuel-plugin-debug
22:54 mwhahaha ah i wonder if it works if you just delete the file
22:54 mwhahaha :D
22:55 ashtokolov can help =]
23:12 mwhahaha i wish there was an easy way to define as task as last
23:38 mwhahaha yup if you remove the file it doesn't complain

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