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IRC log for #fuel, 2013-11-20

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00:01 anoopl xareses: if so since I have Fuel master running as a KVM host
00:02 anoopl how the traffic would be going from the fuel master node to the Blade servers used as the nodes
00:03 anoopl just make the blades to do pxe boot from the pxe/admin netwrok does that job? I have only one network card(em1) on these blade servers
00:05 anoopl i was able to install openstack using stackpack/rpms without much complications like this
00:06 xarses anoopl: the fuel server must be able to reach the nodes on the admin network, the other 3 nets don't have to be reachable by the fuel node
00:06 anoopl is it like Fuel doesnot allow VMs to be used as Fuel Master Node and Openstack node controller?
00:06 anoopl I am confused on this
00:07 anoopl I am not so good on networking
00:07 xarses anoopl: we use virtual machines for development all the time, it shouldn't't be a problem
00:07 anoopl do you think if I use a non used network range for the FuelMaster, then make the blades pxe boot from this network should do the job
00:08 anoopl but you use it for single node installation right
00:08 anoopl I mean everything on a single VirtualBox or KVM
00:08 anoopl I am looking at using Fuel Master and Openstack node controller on 2 VMs
00:08 xarses I've seen it run across multiple KVM instances, and with mixed virt / physical
00:09 anoopl then nodes are fresh blade servers
00:09 xarses anoopl: that should work
00:09 xarses as long as all nodes (physical or virtual) can PXE from the fuel node's admin network
00:10 xarses http://docs.mirantis.com/fuel/fuel-3.2/pre-install-guide.html#network-configuration-options
00:10 xarses network diagram examples
00:14 anoopl Thanks xarses:
00:14 anoopl I had worked on bare openstack installations
00:14 anoopl or RDO packstack
00:14 anoopl first time on Mirantis
00:15 anoopl so if i have Centos 6.4/Ubuntu 12.04 installed on these Blades manually
00:15 anoopl is there a way to add/manage  them as Nodes from Fuel Master
00:16 anoopl like stackpack can push to any IP address
00:16 xarses anoopl: Idealy, they should PXE from the fuel node, this allows for the discovery and proper configuration of the disks at deployment time
00:16 anoopl to assign it any openstack role
00:18 anoopl xarses: I understand that. But we are trying to run Fuel on our existing infrastructure without much n/w modifications
00:25 xarses anoopl: Since we provide patched packages at a time, it makes it difficult to ensure that the env will be setup correctly if we don't controll all stages
00:25 xarses at this point, the expectation is that fuel does all the work
00:26 xarses anoopl: if you wanted to use existing nodes, you would need to register them, and probably override some of the manifest parts that expect some filesystem partations
00:29 anoopl xarses: you mean work on the puppet manifests and do some customization
00:30 xarses correct, like that we expect /var/lib/glance to be suitable for glance images // glance cache (depending on the deployment settings)
00:30 xarses similar for /var/lib/nova for computes
00:32 anoopl xarses: ok I got it, that would make my job more harder
00:33 anoopl xarses: i guess people would love to see this manual register process on Fuel, like they does with stackpack
00:34 anoopl xarses: so i might have to try something else like RDO + stackpack for now. to make it much easier for me
00:34 xarses anoopl: we are likely moving soon to be able to provide multiple providers for tasks
00:34 xarses so it would not be so hard to customize this in the future
00:35 xarses but that is currently outside the scope of using the fuel-ui
00:35 anoopl xarses: thanks, guess you get my point
00:35 xarses its all more or less possible from the command line
00:36 anoopl xarses: right, do you have anything like the stackpack commands
00:36 anoopl xarses: like adding an existing node like, #stackpack compute-node ipaddress
00:37 anoopl xarses: it would be great if you can share some commands from the fuel cli
00:38 anoopl xarses: i dont really want to stick just on the web-ui
00:38 anoopl i could not find much documentation on fuel cli
00:42 xarses using the fuel client http://docs.mirantis.com/fuel/fuel-3.2/user-guide.html#understanding-environment-deployment-with-fuel-cli
00:42 xarses outside of that, it would likely be in the dev docs
00:42 xarses http://docs.mirantis.com/fuel-dev/
00:45 anoopl xarses: thanks, so do you mean I can disable pxe and add nodes ( with CentOS 6.4 installed)?
00:46 anoopl xarses: I guess it's talking about changing/adding roles for already added nodes
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00:48 xarses you could manually add the nodes, the API for node discovery should be listed, you'd likely need to modify astute (orchestrator) so that it dosn't call cobbler, and moves on to provisioning. you'd also need to bind each node to the fuel puppet master so it can use mco and the like
00:50 anoopl that's lot of manual work
00:50 anoopl :(
00:50 anoopl better I wait for this feature
00:52 anoopl in case of packstack it was just $ packstack --install-hosts=CONTROLLER_ADDRESS,NODE_ADDRESSES
00:53 anoopl i was evaluating different deployment tools for openstack
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00:54 anoopl i m back
00:57 xarses back in a bit
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08:57 ToTsiroll_ any news when fuel 4.0 will be release? (production)
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09:06 mihgen ToTsiroll_: mid December
09:07 mihgen ToTsiroll_: are you waiting for some particular feature?
09:07 ArminderS ceilometer for me
09:07 ToTsiroll_ just scheduling some redeployment if ever :) thanks!
09:07 ArminderS and also HA is missing in preview
09:08 ToTsiroll_ and yes..ceilometer and heat
09:14 mihgen yep, all of these will be in 4.0 GA :)
09:14 mihgen we also going to make 3.2.1 next week with a ton of bug fixes
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13:43 homegrown has anyone experienced issues running the deploy node on vmware?
13:43 homegrown Not using vlan tagging, 4xnics for the deployment for what its worth
13:46 MiroslavAnashkin <homegrown>: Do you want to hear from us about multiple network issues, or you need solution for your own issue?
13:46 MiroslavAnashkin :-)
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13:47 MiroslavAnashkin Actually, the main issue with VMware (and same with VirtualBox)  - both have optimizations in network card emulation.
13:47 homegrown Just want to know if its a viable option or does vmware's vswitch create problems
13:49 MiroslavAnashkin Yes, it does. You have to enable promisc mode for all NICs for all traffic - it should solve majority of such issues.
13:49 homegrown cool, thanks. will give it another go
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13:51 MiroslavAnashkin Second issue - Intel Pro/1000 cards emulation - we switched all virtual NICS to AMD PCnet-FAST II or III and Neutron started to work.
13:52 MiroslavAnashkin For Nova-Network usage you don't have to worry about all the previous issues, both happen with Neutron only.
13:53 homegrown we'd like to go with Neutron, so unfortunately it's an issue for me
13:53 MiroslavAnashkin Well, now you have directions on where to dig in:)
13:54 homegrown Thanks, will report back later
13:54 MiroslavAnashkin I've described all 2 issues we have with virtual machines.
13:56 MiroslavAnashkin And remark - both these issues appear with Havana only, Neutron from Grizzly works better on virtual machines.
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14:17 Valyavskiy is it possible create partitions with fuel node --node-id 3 --disk -d / -u then combine this partitions in raids, and then feed raid to lvm? if no, can i choose specific anaconda profile for specific role(controller,compute)?
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14:28 MiroslavAnashkin <Valyavskiy>: Probably "yes" for Fuel CLI and definitely "yes" for Cobbler
14:45 MiroslavAnashkin There is pmanager.py, located in /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/cobbler/pmanager.py
14:46 MiroslavAnashkin At the end (line 800 and below) it includes example of JSON, with RAID creation. But it is for Centos and may not work for Ubuntu
14:47 MiroslavAnashkin You may try similar approach with Fuel CLI
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