Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #gluster-dev, 2013-08-12

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06:22 deepakcs bala, Hi
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06:30 deepakcs bala, Hi
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09:12 deepakcs bala, hagarth, Hi, can you or someone help confirm the availability of the new gluster RPMs for rhel and F17 ? Pls see the mail i sent to you
09:12 deepakcs bala, hagarth I am waiting on it to make changes to the VDSM spec file
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09:19 bala deepakcs: i am not sure its available for f17/rhel6
09:25 deepakcs bala, i cannot verify as i get re-directed to the mirror site. Internally i thot you can help verify :)
09:28 deepakcs bala, kaleb didn't respond to me over the list. is he on vacation ? I thought be might know for sure, since he built them
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09:44 bala deepakcs: is it difficult to build glusterfs for f17?
09:44 bala deepakcs: can u try yourself?
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10:39 deepakcs bala, sorry, was away in a mtg..
10:40 deepakcs bala, building glusterfs is not the point. Are the -libs -cli new sub-rpms available for f17 or not. accordingly the vdsm.spec.in needs to change/modified
10:45 bala deepakcs: ok got it. i am not sure when that will be available
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10:47 deepakcs bala, will it be available or not for F17 is my Q. Since based on that i need to modify vdsm.spec.in. The same Q goes for rhel 6. Its not clear to me :(
10:48 deepakcs bala, in other words.. for which fedora and rhel releases gluster RPMs are created and maintained ?
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10:55 bala deepakcs: i see 17 and 18 at http://download.gluster.org/pub/gl​uster/glusterfs/3.4/3.4.0/Fedora/
11:03 deepakcs bala, ok... but they don't have the new rpm's kaleb created... even bharata responded to kaleb's mail on the list stating that
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17:05 JoeJulian @later tell bala The official community glusterfs packages for RHEL (including CentOS, SL, etc), Fedora 17 and earlier, and Fedora 18 arm/armhfp are available at http://goo.gl/s077x. The official community glusterfs packages for Fedora 18 and later are in the Fedora yum updates repository.
17:05 glusterbot JoeJulian: The operation succeeded.
17:05 JoeJulian @later tell deepakcs The official community glusterfs packages for RHEL (including CentOS, SL, etc), Fedora 17 and earlier, and Fedora 18 arm/armhfp are available at http://goo.gl/s077x. The official community glusterfs packages for Fedora 18 and later are in the Fedora yum updates repository
17:05 glusterbot JoeJulian: The operation succeeded.
17:07 JoeJulian ... and if they'd asked in the more appropriate channel, they'd have had that answer much sooner...
17:09 johnmark hagarth: hagarth_: extend the feature deadline to this Friday?
17:10 hagarth johnmark: no problem with me
17:11 jclift johnmark: Emailed the multi-node gluster test proposal concept to gluster-devel.
17:11 johnmark jclift: thanks :)
17:12 hagarth we can send the extension notice on wednesday to motivate last minute submitters (like me) to submit earlier ;)
17:12 jclift :D
17:13 hagarth quite a few folks whom I spoke to mentioned that they would do so on 14th ;)
17:14 jclift We should probably get the Gluster hostname-vs-UUID issue sorted out as a proprosal for 3.5 too
17:15 semiosis whats that issue?  link?
17:23 JoeJulian I wonder if that's bug 765437
17:23 glusterbot Bug http://goo.gl/YORlt low, medium, ---, kparthas, ASSIGNED , [FEAT] Use uuid in volume info file for servers instead of hostname or ip address
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17:26 jclift semiosis: http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html​/gluster-devel/2013-06/msg00067.html and http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html​/gluster-devel/2013-06/msg00069.html
17:27 JoeJulian Yep, that's my bug... ;)
17:30 semiosis thx
17:30 jclift JoeJulian: Yeah.  Kaushal said he'd pull that info together and put forward a proper proposal.  I haven't seen anything about it since though. :(
17:31 jclift Hmmm, I'll email him now with reminder :D
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18:03 johnmark hagarth: good point :) let's do that
18:03 johnmark jclift: thanks!
18:03 JoeJulian jclift: Isn't your proposal what the "filter" path is supposed to be able to do?
18:04 jclift JoeJulian: For the custom translator?
18:04 JoeJulian yeah
18:04 jclift JoeJulian: jdarcy has indicated he doesn't really like how he filter thing functions
18:04 jclift s/he/the/
18:05 jclift JoeJulian: So, I didn't think that was the "right" way we were encouraging people to really go with, other than for emergency purposes (eg NEED something to work)
18:05 semiosis what jclift meant to say was: JoeJulian: jdarcy has indicated the doesn't really like how he filter thing functions
18:06 semiosis hehe ;)
18:07 * jclift sighs
18:08 JoeJulian Yeah, probably some sort of plugin architecture would be better, where a directory is scanned for translators and they auto-register themselves.
18:09 jclift Hmmm, that does sound more flexible
18:09 jclift Less CLI clutter too probably
18:12 jclift JoeJulian: Would you be ok to respond back on the mailing list with that thought about "directory scanned for translators and autoregister" ?
18:12 JoeJulian I never thought I would ever say anything even remotely like this... but I kind-of wish the cli was more like powershell.
18:13 JoeJulian jclift: yep
18:13 jclift JoeJulian: New proposal... tab completion for the cli
18:13 jclift ?
18:13 jclift And a much better help system
18:14 jclift gluster help foo (for anything)
18:14 JoeJulian No. Powershell has a very strict "verb-noun" command set, and every result is an object and can be operated on as such.
18:14 jclift Hmmmm... want to flesh that out into a proposal email?
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18:14 JoeJulian I went to the last LOPSA chapter meeting expecting to be bored out of my skull, and was very surprised to see MS doing something right.
18:15 jclift Cool. :)
18:15 JoeJulian Now that I've said that, I should probably blog about it. That'll help me formulate my thoughts for the mailing list...
18:15 jclift :D
18:16 johnmark JoeJulian: awesome :)
18:16 * johnmark is listening intently
18:16 JoeJulian It just irritates me to say anything positive about big blue...
18:16 semiosis you mean big red(mond)
18:16 JoeJulian I have too many friends over there that'll never let me live it down.
18:17 jclift So use "other reasonably well known cli" instead of "powershell"
18:17 jclift (when writing about it)
18:18 JoeJulian johnmark: like the word "domain" in networking, older softies also refer to their company that way. They like taking words that already identify with something and reusing them for their own purposes.
18:24 johnmark JoeJulian: embrace adn extend, baby :)
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20:43 a2_ jclift, cli already has tab completion
20:43 jclift Cool :)
20:43 a2_ of course, you need to be "in the shell"
20:44 jclift Of course
20:44 a2_ however the autocompletion is static
20:44 a2_ for e.g, it does not autocomplete dynamic info, like volume names
20:45 jclift That would be a good addition then
20:45 jclift The help system in gluster cli is very primitive too.  It would be good to have "gluster help <anything>" work.
20:45 a2_ hmm, doesn't that already work
20:46 jclift We have some help stuff, but it's not in much depth
20:46 a2_ yeah
20:46 jclift I'm more worried about not having a multi-node test framework than the help system.  But still, it's not either/or. :)
20:47 a2_ cluster.t helps to some extent already, but there are still some aspects to actual multinodes which it cannot address
20:48 jclift Yeah
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