Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #gluster-dev, 2014-09-15

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10:43 misc mhh so, looking at the 2 debian VM in rackspace, they seems to run heartbeat
10:45 misc and it seems "change password" in the interface of rackspace reboot the server
10:45 misc ( who is filesystem checking )
10:52 JustinClift Wow
10:53 JustinClift Well, I guess at least now we know
10:53 JustinClift ;)
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11:05 misc does the nickname 'ab' ring a bell ?
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11:27 JustinClift misc: Yep, that's one of the original guys
11:27 JustinClift Ugh... brain is doing the blank, can't-place-the-word thing
11:29 JustinClift Anand Babu Periasamy
11:33 JustinClift misc: He still works at RH
11:39 kkeithley He goes by AB. He's in the CTO office
11:41 misc JustinClift: ok, just because the key was ab@hacker, it looked suspcious :)
11:44 JustinClift ;)
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14:36 hchiramm JustinClift++ Thanks !
14:37 glusterbot hchiramm: JustinClift's karma is now 23
14:38 JustinClift Wow, my karma's really going up.
14:38 JustinClift hchiramm: Tx :)
14:38 JustinClift @karma
14:38 glusterbot JustinClift: Highest karma: "lalatenduM" (24), "JustinClift" (23), and "ndevos" (21). Lowest karma: "(" (-5), "(<" (-1), and "-rw-r--r" (-1). You (JustinClift) are ranked 2 out of 40.
14:38 JustinClift I could SO do lala -- couldn't I ?:D
14:38 * JustinClift decides not to be ba
14:39 JustinClift bad
14:41 ndevos JustinClift: hey, I'm a close 3rd, a -- is tempting :P
14:42 JustinClift I wonder...
14:42 JustinClift JustinClift--
14:42 JustinClift @karma
14:42 glusterbot JustinClift: Error: You're not allowed to adjust your own karma.
14:42 glusterbot JustinClift: Highest karma: "lalatenduM" (24), "JustinClift" (23), and "ndevos" (21). Lowest karma: "(" (-5), "(<" (-1), and "-rw-r--r" (-1). You (JustinClift) are ranked 2 out of 40.
14:42 * JustinClift decides to not cheat
14:43 ndevos JustinClift--
14:43 ndevos hmm, doesnt work?
14:43 glusterbot ndevos: JustinClift's karma is now 22
14:43 ndevos oh, yes, it does!
14:43 JustinClift Let me try...
14:43 JustinClift ndevos--
14:43 ndevos JustinClift++
14:43 glusterbot JustinClift: ndevos's karma is now 20
14:43 glusterbot ndevos: JustinClift's karma is now 23
14:43 JustinClift Oh yeah, it does ;)
14:43 ndevos :P
14:44 JustinClift ndevos++
14:44 glusterbot JustinClift: ndevos's karma is now 21
14:49 kkeithley JustinClift++
14:49 glusterbot kkeithley: JustinClift's karma is now 24
14:49 kkeithley ndevos++
14:49 glusterbot kkeithley: ndevos's karma is now 22
14:49 kkeithley ndevos++
14:49 kkeithley ndevos++
14:49 kkeithley @karma
14:49 ndevos oh yeah!
14:49 glusterbot kkeithley: ndevos's karma is now 23
14:49 glusterbot kkeithley: ndevos's karma is now 24
14:49 glusterbot kkeithley: Highest karma: "lalatenduM" (24), "ndevos" (24), and "JustinClift" (24). Lowest karma: "(" (-5), "(<" (-1), and "-rw-r--r" (-1). You (kkeithley) are ranked 4 out of 40.
14:49 kkeithley oh crap, that backfired on me
14:50 ndevos @karma kkeithley
14:50 glusterbot ndevos: Karma for "kkeithley" has been increased 19 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 18.
14:50 kkeithley oh, no, never mind. it didn't
14:50 ndevos kkeithley++
14:50 glusterbot ndevos: kkeithley's karma is now 19
14:50 kkeithley no, stop
14:50 kkeithley ;-)
14:50 lalatenduM whats happening :)
14:50 kkeithley I can see that Ceph training has really got your attention
14:51 ndevos hehe
14:51 ndevos its more of a vagrant training atm...
14:52 kkeithley on a serious note, what's the deal with vdsm having dependencies on glusterfs-cli and glusterfs-server?
14:52 lalatenduM ndevos, actually I had converted the vmdk's to qcomw2 and use dkVM
14:52 lalatenduM KVM*
14:52 lalatenduM kkeithley, no idea :)
14:53 ndevos kkeithley: that would be the vdsm-gluster sub-package? it contains a python API for managing gluster
14:54 kkeithley I think it's the core vdsm RPM
14:54 ndevos kkeithley: that 'API' hooks into vdsm, and is based on 'gluster --xml ...' commands
14:54 kkeithley Bala said it's for '... mounting gluster volumes...'
14:55 kkeithley btw, it's only broken in epel
14:57 ndevos maybe vdsm uses 'gluster --xml volume list'?
14:57 * ndevos is just guessing...
14:58 kkeithley vdsm x86_64 requires glusterfs-cli.  (vdsm ppc64 requires glusterfs-* !!!!)
14:58 kkeithley vdsm-gluster x86_64 requires glusterfs-server
14:59 ndevos I dont know!
15:00 ndevos I think vdsm-gluster should only depend on glusterfs-cli
15:00 ndevos oh, but well, glusterfs-cli is relatively new, the 'gluster' command was in glusterfs-server before
15:01 kkeithley and glusterd is in -server. Without glusterd, gluster is kinda useless, yes?
15:01 * kkeithley tries to remember why we put gluster in its own subpackage
15:02 ndevos no, not really, vdsm-gluster actually calls 'gluster --xml --remote-host=... ...'
15:02 ndevos there is no requirement to have glusterd running on the localhost
15:02 kkeithley oh, so that's okay
15:02 kkeithley indeed
15:02 kkeithley that's why -cli subpackage then
15:03 ndevos I actually use it on my client systems to list the volumes with autofs
15:03 ndevos like http://blog.nixpanic.net/2014/04/conf​iguring-autofs-for-glusterfs-35.html
15:04 ndevos I guess vdsm could have a dependency on /usr/bin/gluster instead of on a specific package...
15:05 kkeithley _sbin_, but yes
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16:23 misc JustinClift: on rackspace, can we make a snapshot of a VM and stop paying, or something like this ?
18:36 JustinClift misc: We should be having nightly backups for the VM's anyway, but only with a 7 day retention (from memory)
18:36 misc how does the backup work ?
18:37 JustinClift Does some kind of block copy.
18:37 misc if I have a running database and the state on the disk is inconsistent, are we screwed ?
18:37 JustinClift misc: Hmmm, actually, the backup approach like that is probably not what we want
18:37 JustinClift misc: Instead shut it down, and yeah, there are some options for making an image of a stopped VM
18:38 misc JustinClift: I am more interested into know if shutting down and making a image will cost money :)
18:38 JustinClift misc: Any idea if the whole VM is just on one disk, or if it has multiple disks?  It might make a difference, and the old VM types might be different too.
18:38 JustinClift Ahhh, don't be stressed about the costing money.  I'm pretty sure they for images that are created we're only charged storage costs.
18:39 JustinClift Somelike like $12 per 100GB
18:39 JustinClift The info is in the interface though from memory.
18:39 misc 12$ for 100G !
18:39 misc JustinClift: only 1 disk
18:39 JustinClift $12 is a bit cheaper per month than $180, so worth doing. ;)
18:39 misc at least on the one I did "access"
18:40 misc 184.106.200.248 has a 160G disk
18:40 JustinClift Yeah, I'm not sure.  You'll need to check through the Rackspace docs.
18:41 JustinClift Or, open a ticket to ask Rackspace support for specifics.
18:41 JustinClift They're generally pretty responsive.
18:41 JustinClift (eg faster than 1/2 response time pretty often)
18:41 JustinClift 1/2 hour
18:42 misc yeah, still cheaper
18:42 JustinClift Btw, how're you going with the Salt trialing?
18:42 misc not far :)
18:42 * JustinClift was meaning to find out if Salt has pre-existing stuff for setting up Gerrit
18:42 misc I focused on another project last week
18:42 JustinClift Since it turns out Gerrit needs a bunch of configuration to get up and running.  Reverse proxy, SMTP server, etc, in addition to Gerrit itself
18:43 JustinClift k
18:44 misc and usually, I prefer to write the stuff myself, at least, until I know enoug to judge if I can take a module or not
18:46 * JustinClift was hoping to avoid the need to dig too deeply.  But, not actually surprised at all that I can't be totally lazy about it
18:46 JustinClift On that note, I'm off.  Need sleep soon (was up super early this morning). ;)
18:57 semiosis misc: i set the vms in rackspace to auto image daily, with 7 day retention.  only the root disk is imaged, not any additional block devs
18:58 semiosis nothing has been done to secure databases before imaging
18:59 semiosis idk even what databases are running.  mysql for wordpress & mediawiki at least.  what else?
19:00 misc what server are you speaking about ?
19:00 semiosis iirc jenkins uses the filesystem not a db
19:00 semiosis misc: all the VMs in rackspace
19:06 misc semiosis: yeah, i was more speaking about the 2 debian system :)
19:06 semiosis which?
19:06 semiosis i have gluster-sonar, which is ubuntu
19:06 semiosis idk about any other debian systems
19:06 misc the 2 servers i mailed about, that's 2 old VM from gluster.com days
19:07 misc I would kill them if I was reckless
19:07 semiosis ah
19:07 * semiosis checks email
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