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06:18 anekkunt hagarth,   Could you merge this patch http://review.gluster.org/#/c/11989/
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07:13 hchiramm_home ppai++ thanks !
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10:37 aravindavk who is managing http://blog.gluster.org? I have a CSS patch to fix image overflow error
10:37 ndevos aravindavk: probably csim and tigert
10:37 aravindavk image is overflowing like this http://blog.gluster.org/2015/09/simulating-race-conditions/
10:38 ndevos aravindavk: send an email to infra@gluster.org ?
10:38 aravindavk ndevos: ok
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10:44 csim blog.gluster is still used and in production ?
10:44 csim ( if so, I might start to look at putting wordpress somewhere where it can be contained, like some undersea servers )
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10:45 ndevos ah, blog.g.o != planet.g.o
10:47 csim I can take a look, but for now, wordpress is in a dark place and I am not sure I want to go there :)
10:48 csim ( a dark place where I found some security place in some php from the old website, so going there requires a more stronger bland of coffee, like one with whisky )
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12:14 rafi ndevos: Hi
12:14 ndevos hello rafi, not weekend for you yet?
12:15 rafi ndevos: weekends are boring, isn't it ? :D
12:15 ndevos rafi: depends, I got invited to build IKEA furniture tomorrow...
12:17 rafi ndevos: I was just joking, but if we work more on friday, we can enjoy weekend more , I guess
12:18 ndevos rafi: oh, I guess you dont have an IDEA experience yet, the 1st shop opens 2017 in Hyderabad - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_IKEA_stores
12:19 ndevos uh, not IDEA, IKEA
12:20 rafi ndevos: nop, I haven;t heard about this before :(
12:20 * rafi is reading the wikipedia
12:20 ndevos rafi: they sell furniture (and other stuff, see ikea.com) that you have to put together yourself
12:21 ndevos doing that is not really an exciting way to spend a (part of a) weekend
12:22 rafi ndevos: hmm cool
12:22 rafi ndevos: ohoo i forget, tomorrow we have gluster meetup
12:22 rafi :)
12:22 rafi ndevos: in bangalore
12:22 ndevos rafi: yeah, and I'm expecting lots of blog posts of people attending that
12:23 rafi ndevos: I love to write blog post, but belives i don't have the skills for writing :(
12:24 ndevos rafi: I dont think it takes skill, I'm doing the occasional blog posts too :D
12:25 * ndevos is always surprised that people (or maybe bots only?) visit his blog
12:26 skoduri ndevos, let me know if the shop they open in Hyderabad contains the furniture you are going to build :P ..
12:27 ndevos skoduri: I'm sure you'd love to visit IKEA :D
12:28 rafi skoduri: you also wanted to do furniture puzzles :D ?
12:30 ndevos rafi: it works like this: 1. she picks what she wants, 2. her husband has to put it together
12:33 Manikandan ndevos++, thanks for merging the patch ")
12:33 glusterbot Manikandan: ndevos's karma is now 199
12:34 Manikandan ndevos++, thanks for the review too :P
12:34 glusterbot Manikandan: ndevos's karma is now 200
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12:35 ndevos @karma
12:35 glusterbot ndevos: Highest karma: "ndevos" (200), "kkeithley" (94), and "lalatenduM" (82).  Lowest karma: "<" (-12), "(" (-8), and "typo" (-3).  You (ndevos) are ranked 1 out of 140.
12:38 jiffin ndevos: congratulation on ur double century
12:39 ndevos thanks jiffin, you make me feel old!
12:39 Manikandan ndevos, congrats :)
12:40 jiffin ndevos: you deserve it
12:40 ndevos okay, I assume you mean the karma, and not my feeling :D
12:41 jiffin ndevos: without any doubt its karma. don't take that in another way
12:42 jiffin :)
12:42 ndevos :)
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12:56 rafi ndevos: I was wondering about , how maintainers  are moving the bugs to closed on a release happens
12:56 ndevos rafi: we all hold hands and sing a song?
12:58 ndevos rafi: oh, and when that does not work, we use a script like this: https://github.com/gluster/release-tools/blob/master/close-bugs.sh
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13:20 rafi ndevos: great
13:20 rafi ndevos: :)
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13:32 kkeithley singing a song? video or it didn't happen! ;-)
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13:47 ndevos sorry kkeithley, you were too far away to hold hands when you did the 3.4.x releases
13:49 kkeithley tjat
13:49 kkeithley that's a relief
13:51 kkeithley speaking of singing songs, my dragonboard 410c (aarch64) supposedly shipped
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14:00 ndevos nice, I'm mostly waiting with ordering new ARM toys until the enterprise boards are available (and affordable)
14:05 csim mhh, do we plan to port gluster on arm ?
14:05 csim (also, does it impact jenkins ?)
14:06 csim (no, I am not always thinking of work and jenkins)
14:06 ndevos port? my Gluster env at home runs on Fedora 32-bit ARM
14:06 csim well, we do not distribute official packages for arm, no ?
14:07 ndevos the Fedora packages are there, and I think kkeithley even built aarch64 ones
14:07 csim ok, so i stand corrected :)
14:07 csim and so jenkins ?
14:09 ndevos we only test x86_64 for linux now, maybe the NetBSD slaves are 32-bit - but all intel arch
14:09 csim also, no centos7 for testing, there is a reason other than "no volunteer" ?
14:09 ndevos if we really want to support different architectures, we should get the hardware first
14:10 csim yep
14:10 ndevos no volunteers and running out of budget on the Rackspace env
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14:10 csim so adding a centos7 to the ci in RH DC could be a first step ?
14:11 csim (even if maybe, fixing the build on Fedora first would help)
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14:17 ndevos yeah, adding c7 would be very good
14:18 csim but so far, we didn't verified if the c6 slave there is good enough, I could enable it, but I would rather make sure it doesn't disturb too much stuff
14:20 ndevos csim: you can create a new jenkins job for the new slaves, just have the "skip voting" checked and a different tag for the builders
14:21 ndevos csim: are the new systems registered in the Jenkins on build.gluster.org?
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14:21 csim ndevos: yep, they are
14:23 csim now, I still learn jenkins and gerrit, mostly from inside
14:26 ndevos csim: I've created a new job and it will only run on systems that have the Label ci.gluster.org-TEST
14:26 ndevos csim: https://build.gluster.org/computer/centos6-1.ci.gluster.org/ has been added to that label now
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14:27 hagarth ndevos++ :)
14:27 glusterbot hagarth: ndevos's karma is now 201
14:27 csim ndevos: how do you make sure it doesn't vote ?
14:27 csim (in fact, that's the part I miss)
14:28 ndevos csim: https://build.gluster.org/job/regression-triggered-ci.gluster.org-TEST/ is the job, the voting is done in the build script (commented out)
14:28 ndevos csim: most other jobs use the Gerrit plugin to do the voting automatically, the regression tests does it manually with an ssh-command
14:29 csim ndevos: any reason for that ?
14:29 ndevos csim: possibly, but I dont know, I was looking for the Gerrit options and only noticed they were all marked as "skip vote"
14:30 * csim add that to "stuff to clean and understand"
14:30 kkeithley Back from the fire alarm.  WRT "official" there is no official support of anything related to community.
14:30 ndevos they are somewhere under the [advanced] button
14:30 ndevos ... and you have to click the right [advanced] button for that too
14:31 kkeithley There's 32-bit arm, aarch64, x86_64, i686, ppc, and more. Fedora, RHEL/CentOS, Ubuntu, Debian, SLES, etc., etc.
14:31 csim ah ah
14:31 ndevos csim: also https://build.gluster.org/view/Infra/ lists the jobs that are useful for the infrastructure
14:32 csim ndevos: yeah, added the add_to_salt one :)
14:33 ndevos csim: I thought so, I just added it so that "Infra" view :D
14:33 ndevos dlambrig: haha, a simple fix right? I didnt -1 it though :P
14:34 hagarth ndevos, kkeithley: do we have any performance comparison between nfs-{native,ganesha} and fuse with 3.7.x?
14:35 ndevos hagarth: I dont have anything recent, but Gluster/NFS FTW!
14:35 hagarth ndevos: I don't doubt that ;)
14:36 hagarth ndevos: I am thinking of running perf-test.sh and publishing results periodically.
14:36 kkeithley Ben Turner has been reporting good things about NFSv4 vs gnfs.  I'm not sure he's got numbers comparing fuse
14:37 hagarth kkeithley:  ok
14:40 csim mhh, does it ring a bell: https://build.gluster.org/job/Clang%20build/ ?
14:40 csim (as I am not sure if we should remove it or not)
14:42 ndevos kkeithley: has a regular clang build, not sure if this is the one?
14:42 kkeithley My clang builds are not done on the jenkins infra.
14:43 kkeithley I use VM running on an internal server
14:44 ndevos kkeithley: care to move it to Jenkins at one point?
14:45 csim I guess the main issue is having a recent enough clang
14:48 kkeithley Yes, that's the eventual plan. We've got some old server-class machines in the lab here that Amye and Sankarshan are working on getting into the colo with external connectivity.  Old, but beefy enough to maybe run ~100 2GB VMs on.
14:49 csim so 200G of ram ?
14:50 kkeithley Once they're in the colo (I'm not holding my breath) then I'll move all the things I've got running. Stuff like the Debian and Ubuntu build machines, etc.
14:50 kkeithley eight or nine machines with 24GB or 32GB RAM each.
14:50 csim the colo should be ready soon. I was not holding my breath 6 month ago (and was right)
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14:51 csim 32 G is acceptable, that's 1U, no ?
14:51 kkeithley Well, they haven't told me where to ship the machines yet.
14:51 kkeithley They're Dell R410s. Might be 2U
14:51 csim I am in charge of the colo, we didn't decide yet on what to accept, especially regarding out of warranty stuff
14:51 kkeithley We can buy RAM to bump the 24G machines to 32G
14:52 csim r410 seems to be 1U
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14:55 kkeithley I've also got a Dell R510 with a pair of Dell Equallogic 6010 arrays, 8U total that I'd like to move to the colo.
14:55 kkeithley yeah, the R410s are 1U.
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14:57 kkeithley And maybe a Dell R515 with a slightly banged up case that's otherwise fine.
14:57 kkeithley It's all out-of-warrantee, from the old Gluster Sunnyvale lab.
14:58 kkeithley But we may as well use it for as long as it works.
14:58 csim well, if it break, we scavenge the part, and that's it ?
14:58 kkeithley yup
14:58 csim ok, will keep that in mind (I hope ) for the discussion
14:59 csim right now, we are more focused on waiting the cage to be up, discussing about bw needed, and I really think that ci.gluster.org should first be used more before adding more stuff, but that's slowly starting
15:00 csim (as you said, we need more people than we need hardware :/)
15:00 kkeithley indeed.
15:01 kkeithley Colo is in Raleigh, right?
15:01 kkeithley ci.gluster.org, or ci.centos.org?
15:06 csim kkeithley: ci.gluster.org
15:06 csim kkeithley: colo is in RDU2, I can give more details in 20 minutes
15:12 kkeithley yes, RDU2 is in Raleigh.
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