Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #gluster-dev, 2015-10-07

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06:23 ashiq gem++ thanks
06:23 glusterbot ashiq: gem's karma is now 21
06:28 pranithk hchiramm: Hey, kdhananjay gave +1 on my documentation patch. Now I am ready to send the pull request. I wonder which would be a good place to add this in the glusterdocs. Any suggestions?
06:29 hchiramm https://github.com/gluster/glusterdo​cs/tree/master/Administrator%20Guide
06:29 hchiramm pranithk, you can add that to admin guide which is getting rendered here @http://gluster.readthedocs.org/en/latest/
06:30 pranithk hchiramm: I think it has to go in http://gluster.readthedocs.org/en/latest/​Administrator%20Guide/Managing%20Volumes/
06:31 hchiramm LGTM
06:31 pranithk hchiramm: Just like rebalance volumes, we will have replacing bricks?
06:31 pranithk hchiramm: cool
06:31 hchiramm pranithk++
06:31 glusterbot hchiramm: pranithk's karma is now 30
06:32 pranithk hchiramm: I just need to learn how to send pull request now... too many youtube videos :-)
06:32 hchiramm :)
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09:24 rafi ping ndevos
09:51 ndevos pong rafi?
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10:13 rafi ndevos: how is your day ?
10:14 rafi ndevos: in linuxConf ?
10:16 ndevos rafi: yeah, at the conference, it's pretty good :)
10:17 rafi ndevos: cool
10:17 rafi ndevos: I was wondering about how we can detect a process restart of gNFS server ?
10:22 ndevos rafi: uh... not sure, but WHY?
10:22 rafi ndevos: http://review.gluster.org/#/c/12184
10:23 rafi ndevos: was looking into nfs code to see how this problem can impact on nfs
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11:45 ndevos rafi: I'll try to have alook at that late rtoday
11:47 hagarth whois running the community meeting today?
11:47 hagarth kshlm is unavailable today and he was the designate for today's meeting
11:47 csim encore à cherbourg ?
11:47 csim woops, wrong windos
11:48 rafi ndevos: cool, mean time I will also try
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11:54 hagarth pranithk, rastar, kdhananjay, rafi: anybody can help with hosting the meeting today?
11:56 rafi hagarth: I haven't participated the last community meeting, I'm bit out of sync
11:57 hagarth rafi: I was also partially available last meeting
11:59 rafi hagarth: I can send reminders :)
11:59 hagarth rafi: can you get started with the meeting? I can join in a bit
11:59 hagarth maybe we should skip reminders today. we are almost there :).
11:59 rafi hagarth: okey
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14:00 kkeithley http://blog.gluster.org/2015/10/automating-clos​ing-bugs-on-end-of-life-versions-of-glusterfs/
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14:08 kkeithley eek, why are there so many _new_ bugs filed against "pre-release" version?  Which pre-release?
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14:10 kkeithley and 1036 filed against "mainline" version.
14:11 kkeithley after every major release we should change all "mainline" bugs to the new x.y.0 version.
14:12 kkeithley but what to do about these 1000+ bugs _now_?
14:12 kkeithley wrt to those pre-release bugs, some old, but there's a lot of relatively new ones.
14:15 kkeithley 111 all told
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14:38 kkeithley don't all respond at once! ;-)
14:39 kkeithley perhaps I should close mainline and pre-release bugs that are older than one year?
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14:42 hagarth kkeithley: possibly yes if there have been no updates in the last one year .. maybe we can exclude enhancements
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15:21 kkeithley hchiramm: q about the python bindings.  Are you aware that gfapi's glfs_h_lookupat() changed in 3.7.4?  The symbols in the sharedlib are versioned, but I don't know how python deals with symbol versions.
15:21 kkeithley JoeJulian: ^^^ FYI
15:25 JoeJulian I don't know how anything deals with symbol versions.
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15:28 kkeithley heh. In theory I know how C does. But it's only a theory. ;-)
15:28 kkeithley And some strong empirical evidence
15:30 kkeithley I suspect the best we can do is update the python bindings, and have the new binding RPM Requires: glusterfs-api >= 3.7.4
15:32 kkeithley But maybe not. Maybe there's something better.
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16:41 JoeJulian kkeithley: Can you point me at an example of how C handles versioned symbols where it's able to be compatible with older versions?
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16:57 kkeithley It's not so much C as ELF.
16:57 kkeithley http://www.akkadia.org/drepper/symbol-versioning is what I think I followed
16:58 kkeithley there's also this https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/LS​B_3.0.0/LSB-PDA/LSB-PDA/symversion.html
16:58 kkeithley and lots more.  google for "linux symbol versioning"
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17:58 kkeithley JoeJulian, hchiramm, tdasilva: the python bindings haven't added any of the new APIs from 3.7.0, nor any of the glfs_h_* functions (including glfs_h_lookupat) from any release.  Off hand I'd say that most python apps probably don't need any of the glfs_h_* functions. Those are there for NFS, specifically nfs-ganesha.
18:02 kkeithley And all of that not withstanding, briefly looking at the Python ctypes docs gives me hope that getattr() could be used to get specific versions of a symbol. (https://docs.python.org/2/library/ctypes.html)
18:04 kkeithley I hope that's not a Windows-specific feature.
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19:20 JoeJulian I did look at linux symbol versioning. All I found is how one library can support multiple versions.
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