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08:28 itisravi atinm: hi..I think you can merge http://review.gluster.org/#/c/14765/ now that 3.7.12 is released.
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09:27 ndevos obnox, rastar: I know you like Vagrant, maybe you can quickly patch and test a fix for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1350104 ?
09:27 glusterbot Bug 1350104: medium, high, ---, bugs, NEW , the run-tests-in-vagrant.sh script should exit with an error if tests failed
09:28 ndevos it runs in the CentOS CI now, but incorrectly reports that is succeeds: https://ci.centos.org/view/Gluster/job/gluster_run-tests-in-vagrant/
09:33 rafi1 ndevos did you had a chance to look into http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.gluster.devel/15653
09:34 rafi1 ndevos: we are planning to support add/remove brick and rebalance for tier volume
09:34 rafi1 ndevos: is it possible to take this patch for 3.8.x release ?
09:37 ndevos rafi1: we'll stick to stable changes only, see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.gluster.maintainers/694 for a draft
09:37 post-factum rafi1: as similar feature for arbiter bricks didn't get into 3.7, that is unlikely
09:38 post-factum rafi1: should be targeted for 3.9 :)
09:38 rafi1 post-factum: yes, it would be good candidate for 3.9
09:38 rafi1 ndevos: thanks for the update :)
09:39 ndevos rafi1: I hope that gets you a little more time to work on things, reducing the time you spend on backporting+testing :)
09:41 rafi1 ndevos: yes, I just read the thread,
09:41 rafi1 ndevos: not sure, how I missed it :)
09:42 rafi1 ndevos: the one which I'm talking about will have more than 100 lines ;)
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09:53 rastar ndevos: noted. I will send a patch by tomorrow
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09:56 ndevos rastar: cool, thanks!
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09:57 ndevos rafi1: we're still working the details out on the maintainers list, once it is in the docs we'll really announce it to everyone :)
09:58 ndevos rastar: btw, have you thought about using the images that fedora/centos provide instead of providing your own?
09:58 rafi1 ndevos: okey
09:59 rastar ndevos: I did use them at first, but, then we would have to install about 50-70 packages everytime on vagrant up.
09:59 rastar ndevos: wanted to avoid wastage of time and network bandwidth there
10:01 ndevos rastar: oh, right, but you could create a snapshot/template of the locally modified VM?
10:01 ndevos rastar: I think lpabon does something like that for his Heketi tests
10:03 rastar ndevos: then every user would have to do that
10:04 rastar ndevos: I mean, every gluster dev will have to learn the trick that lpabon uses
10:04 ndevos rastar: oh, I was thinking that run-tests-in-vagrant.sh automatically does that on the 1st run?
10:05 rastar ndevos: no, we don't take any clone of the created VM
10:05 ndevos rastar: but I'm not a Vagrant user, and only have the experience of running (and little debugging) it in the CentOS CI
10:05 rastar ndevos: but we don't delete the VM either unless you set the destroy-vm option
10:06 rastar ndevos: so the next run reuses the same VM, not the clone
10:06 ndevos rastar: ah, right, I've seen that option... It would be much cleaner to run the tests in a new VM though
10:07 rastar ndevos: yes, jdarcy suggested that. If that option is set, then every call to run-tests-in-vagrant, we are going to spin a new VM, install 50 pkgs and then run tests.
10:07 ndevos rastar: it does not matter in the CentOS CI, a new/clean physical machine gets assigned for the job and vagrant gets installed just before running the script
10:08 rastar ndevos: I saw that :)
10:08 ndevos rastar: ah, right, so there is the usefullness of creating a template based on the original image. I think I understand it better now
10:09 rastar ndevos: :)
10:09 rastar ndevos: we are looking for something similar to create a multi node setup for distaf to consume
10:09 rastar ndevos: so these questions are useful, keep them coming.
10:10 ndevos rastar: great! If we can use a Vagrant setup to run multi-node distaf, things become pretty simple to run
10:11 rastar ndevos: how cruel do you think it would be if I asked every dev to create rpms for gluster to be installed on distaf setup
10:11 ndevos rastar: I would suggest to start with nightly runs, we have RPMs for those already
10:12 rastar ndevos: but that won't work for a dev working on new feature
10:12 rastar ndevos: for example, I write a new feature + new distaf test for that feature
10:12 ndevos rastar: there is no reason a script can not build and install RPMs? not sure what I am missing there...
10:13 rastar ndevos: ok :), so I ask for source path and run a script to get rpms and install
10:13 rastar ?
10:14 ndevos rastar: I think it is called like: make -C extras/LinuxRPM glustersrpms
10:14 rastar ndevos: yes, that creates for same target as the host
10:15 rastar ndevos: if dev laptop is F23 it would create for f23
10:15 rastar ndevos: won't be able to create for el6
10:15 ndevos rastar: well, that is the same for your centos6 vagrant setup? just run it there?
10:15 ndevos actually, I run this instead: ./autogen.sh ; ./configure ; make dist && rpmbuild -ts --define "_srcrpmdir $PWD" *.gz && mock -r epel-6-x86_64 *.src.rpm
10:16 rastar ndevos: excellent. I think I can make use of that.
10:16 rastar ndevos: Thanks!
10:17 ndevos rastar: great!
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11:13 ndevos hey hchiramm, are there any plans to provide Gluster containers through the CentOS Storage SIG?
11:13 hchiramm ndevos, we could ..
11:13 ndevos hchiramm: s/could/should/ ;-)
11:14 hchiramm have to see the workflow though
11:14 hchiramm ndevos, yep :)
11:14 hchiramm ndevos, do u already have any pointers on the workflow
11:14 hchiramm ?
11:14 hchiramm :)
11:14 ndevos hchiramm: no, but I think other SIGs do that already
11:15 hchiramm ndevos, ok.. i will check on this
11:15 hchiramm ndevos++ thanks !
11:15 glusterbot hchiramm: ndevos's karma is now 275
11:16 ndevos hchiramm: great, thanks! and while you're at it, maybe find out if there is a way to provide libvirt 'boxes' too?
11:16 ndevos hchiramm++
11:16 glusterbot ndevos: hchiramm's karma is now 76
11:16 hchiramm sure..
11:18 ndevos hchiramm: it would make is easier to test projects that use Gluster, we already have two tests that use Vagrant in the CentOS CI now ;-)
11:18 hchiramm true..
11:18 hchiramm :
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11:37 kkeithley jiffin,poornimag,skoduri,ndevos:  are we close to having a patch we like for http://review.gluster.org/14779 ?
11:38 jiffin kkeithley: i will resend a new patch
11:38 kkeithley jiffin++
11:38 glusterbot kkeithley: jiffin's karma is now 45
11:40 * anoopcs see that 3.7.12 has been tagged
11:41 * kkeithley nods
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11:49 jiffin kkeithley: done
11:50 anoopcs Did we agree on to release 3.7.12 without http://review.gluster.org/14779 ?
11:50 anoopcs I don't remember the outcome for that discussion.
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11:50 ndevos anoopcs: was that a discussion on the maintainers list, or where?
11:51 anoopcs ndevos, I think it was on irc.
11:51 anoopcs May be that's why
11:51 ndevos ah, yes, irc discussions dont count if there is no summary/decision sent to a mailinglist
11:53 anoopcs Yup.
11:53 ndevos jiffin: if you tested it, you should set Verified=+1 too :)
11:53 ndevos jiffin: otherwise we'll be waiting a loooong time for regression tests to finish ;-)
11:55 itisravi ndevos: merge requested for http://review.gluster.org/#/c/14790/
11:56 post-factum anoopcs: i've merged 14779 for our production :)
11:57 anoopcs post-factum, Cool..
11:57 post-factum anoopcs: but i see another patch revision, and i guess i should re-merge it
11:57 post-factum anoopcs: anyway, it works
11:57 anoopcs post-factum, Yes.. we had different opinions on it.
11:58 ndevos itisravi: do you know of a reason why pranith didnt merge it?
11:58 itisravi ndevos: He says for 3.8 branch only you can merge.
11:58 post-factum ndevos: also we've merged for 14790 and it works too
11:59 post-factum * merged 14790
11:59 anoopcs Well ahead.
12:00 itisravi post-factum: wow, your system is on bleeding-edge. :)
12:00 ndevos itisravi: all maintainers can merge, they just need to judge if the change is 3.8 suitable (bugfix only!)
12:00 post-factum itisravi: i pick only critical patches very carefully :)
12:01 itisravi ndevos: Hmm..is there some mail on the mailing-list to that effect? I could point pranith to that..
12:01 itisravi post-factum: right :)
12:01 itisravi ndevos: He was saying he only has rights to merge on 3.7.
12:01 itisravi and he did merge the 3.7 backport FWIW.
12:01 ndevos itisravi: I dont think Gerrit is configured to restrict permissions per branch :)
12:02 post-factum itisravi: http://termbin.com/iqbr — list of cherry-picked commits on top of v3.7.12 tags
12:02 post-factum *tag
12:02 itisravi ndevos: oh no, I don't mean access-rights...I was referring to 'rules of merging' -something like that.
12:03 ndevos post-factum: if you're doing that now already, maybe you want to help out with maintaining a stable branch at one point?
12:03 itisravi merge-protocol, if you will.
12:03 post-factum ndevos: pm :)
12:03 ndevos itisravi: right, I dont think we talked/emailed about something like that, other maintainers merge fixes too...
12:04 itisravi ndevos: hmm okay, I'll just point pranith to this chat log then. He seems to be under the impression that only you can merge anything for 3.8.
12:07 ndevos itisravi: we did that just before the release, but once the release happened other maintainers started to merge things, so I guess pranith could do so too
12:08 itisravi ndevos: okey dokey.
12:09 kkeithley wrt 3.7.12, I don't know (don't remember) what was decided.   Regardless, 3.7.12 will be packaged (at least the packages that I build) with http://review.gluster.org/14779.
12:09 kkeithley And I will also be respinning the 3.8.0 packages with that patch.
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12:19 anoopcs kkeithley, Thanks.
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12:35 ndevos hmm, a shame the issue is not mentioned in https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/blob/release-3.7/doc/release-notes/3.7.12.md then
12:35 ndevos did anyone inform hagarth+kshlm about the problem?
12:36 anoopcs I don't think so.
12:37 kkeithley we can update the release notes, right?
12:37 post-factum will re-update cluster with newer 14779 revision now…
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13:00 post-factum updated, with no issues so far
13:01 post-factum i guess i could +1 verified for 14779
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13:19 ndevos lpabon: triggers on pull requests is fun! https://ci.centos.org/view/Gluster/job/gluster_heketi-functional/13/console has started again :)
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13:40 hagarth o/
13:41 hagarth ndevos: editing release notes for 3.7.12 is just a patch away ;)
13:41 hagarth xavih: impressive performance boost with client-io-threads!
13:43 ndevos hagarth: no, it is not, the release notes are contained in the 'make dist' tarball...
13:45 ndevos hagarth: will 3.7.13 stick to the regular release schedule? meaning release around ~30th this month
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13:46 hagarth ndevos: I don't have a clue atm
13:46 hagarth ndevos: I would like it to
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13:46 hagarth ndevos: is there any urgency to push 3.7.13 out?
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13:51 ndevos hagarth: maybe, if kkeithley adds a patch in the 3.7.12 Fedora packages, I guess other distributions would like that
13:51 * ndevos *cough* CentOS Storage SIG *cough*
13:51 anoopcs ndevos, kkeithley, Can you please review https://review.gluster.org/#/c/14338 ?
13:52 ndevos anoopcs: sure, and could you help sac and gem with getting gdeply in Fedora? ;-)
13:52 ndevos anoopcs: hey, thats my patch?
13:53 anoopcs ndevos, Oh..again sorry. I forgot.
13:53 ndevos I'd +100 that
13:53 anoopcs ndevos, I can help them.
13:53 anoopcs If they are going for it..
13:54 kkeithley there is no urgency for 3.7.13 as far as Fedora, Debian, andUbuntu are concerned.  I'm packaging 3.7.12 with http://review.gluster.org/14779
13:54 kkeithley Also respinning 3.8.0 packages with http://review.gluster.org/14779
13:54 ndevos anoopcs: they told me they will do it, but an extra poke from you would help
13:55 ndevos kkeithley: hmm, shall I do that for the Storage SIG packages too then?
13:55 kkeithley I think it would be good if you did
13:56 ndevos yuck, I really dont like it that we continue to release broken versions :-/
13:57 nigelb Note: I've created more new jobs in Jens
13:57 nigelb *Jenkins
13:57 nigelb They'll replace the glusterfs-devrpm* jobs
13:58 kkeithley I don't like it much either.  I also don't like releasing two months late and perpetually holding releases for one more fix
14:00 ndevos oh, nice, we'll just refer to Jens in stead of Jenkins, sounds a bit more Swedish/German :D
14:01 post-factum shouldn't 3.x.y+1 be released instead of respinning?
14:01 post-factum for 3.7 you just skipped broken releases
14:01 hagarth ndevos: how was this introduced?
14:01 nigelb ndevos: Heh.
14:01 post-factum like 3.7.7 IIRC
14:01 ndevos kkeithley: 3.7.12 has been tagged -release in the Storage SIG already, it might have landed on the mirrors too
14:01 nigelb Do we use the devrpms a lot?
14:01 post-factum ndevos++
14:01 glusterbot post-factum: ndevos's karma is now 276
14:02 nigelb (Just wondering why we have the artifacts stick around for 50 days for devrpms rather than 10 for rpms)
14:02 ndevos hagarth: I dont know, but http://review.gluster.org/14779 fixes it, a git log/blame could help there
14:02 ndevos post-factum++
14:02 glusterbot ndevos: post-factum's karma is now 17
14:03 hagarth ndevos: checking
14:03 ndevos nigelb: the last time I asked if someone uses the devrpms, I got a whole 0 replies
14:04 nigelb Shall I change it to 10 days then?
14:04 nigelb I think we're primarly using it as "does it build"
14:05 ndevos hagarth: http://review.gluster.org/14148 introduced it
14:05 kkeithley yes, we did it for 3.6.0/3.6.1 too for the gfapi symbol versions.  But for those we knew we were going to get 3.6.1 and 3.7.8 out quickly.
14:06 ndevos nigelb: 10 should be plenty, and the jobs were added so that developers/qa can test builds with single patches, but nobody does that afaik
14:06 nigelb (I've caught the cause of a few random failures with this work. Turns out we allow package jobs to be build simultaneously on the machine simultaneously. Which causes weird failures)
14:06 nigelb *built
14:06 kkeithley If we get 3.7.13 and 3.8.1 out quickly, then so much the better. In the mean time we have patched respins.
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14:08 hagarth ndevos: right, you or shyam should have reviewed and merged this patch. Not sure why the protocol was broken here (this is not a one off though!).
14:08 kkeithley We just had a big downstream release.  I'm not in favor of making people jump through hoops to get 3.7.13 and 3.8.1 out.  And this coming weekend is a big holiday weekend in the US.
14:08 kkeithley Even if most of our devs aren't US-based
14:09 ndevos hagarth: I seems to have done a quick initial review, it obviously got merged pretty quick after that, too fast for me/shyam to look at it
14:10 hagarth ndevos: right
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14:13 nigelb ndevos: I would recommend that our CI complain when protocol is broken (if it is scriptable)
14:15 nigelb 14:08 < hagarth> ndevos: right, you or shyam should have reviewed and merged this patch. Not sure why the protocol was broken here (this is not a one off though!).
14:15 nigelb 14:08 < kkeithley> We just had a big downstream release.  I'm not in favor of making people jump through hoops to get 3.7.13 and 3.8.1 out.  And this coming weekend is a big holiday weekend in the US.
14:15 nigelb 14:08 < kkeithley> Even if most of our devs aren't US-based
14:15 nigelb 14:09 < ndevos> hagarth: I seems to have done a quick initial review, it obviously got merged pretty quick after that, too fast for me/shyam to look at it
14:15 nigelb well
14:15 nigelb right click on chat is a bad idea
14:15 * nigelb facepalms
14:16 hagarth :)
14:17 nigelb Btw, I'm removing a lot of our "cleaning" scripts from Jenkins.
14:17 nigelb The pkill stuff
14:17 hagarth nigelb: automation might not be very difficult .. we would need to map directories to maintainers whose acks are needed for a patch to be merged
14:17 ndevos nigelb: it is difficult to script for validation checks, all maintainers can merge patches through Gerrit, but should only do s for their components
14:17 hagarth maybe we should change gerrit to push a patch only after relevant maintainer(s) have acked ?
14:18 nigelb I've seen that sort of automation at mozilla.
14:18 nigelb I'm happy to explore the options.
14:18 kkeithley And as precedents go, we have had patches/fixes in packages prior to this.  I prefer not to do them, but there isn't always a choice.
14:18 ndevos hagarth: yeah, something like that, a post-merge check, comparing the changed files and Reviewed-by tags with the MAINTAINERS file
14:18 kkeithley Alternatively we can increase the floggings until morale improves
14:18 nigelb that will only increase the morale of the whip ;)
14:19 hagarth nigelb: yes, something like that would be very useful
14:19 nigelb I'll file a bug for it and take a look at what we can do.
14:20 ndevos nigelb: and mark the bug with the Triaged keyword :)
14:20 hagarth ndevos: lol
14:20 nigelb well, obviously :D
14:21 nigelb Does anyone feel like rechecking smoke tests? :)
14:21 nigelb I want to test the new Jenkins jobs.
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15:10 post-factum FYI, Arch just got 3.8.0-1 into [community]
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15:31 kkeithley post-factum: who put them in, you?
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16:54 post-factum kkeithley: ?
16:54 post-factum kkeithley: what's the context?
16:56 kkeithley <post-factum> FYI, Arch just got 3.8.0-1 into [community]
16:57 post-factum Oh, no, I'm not the maintainer
16:57 kkeithley okay
16:57 kkeithley just curious
16:57 kkeithley who is the maintainer?
16:57 post-factum But I've checked pkgbuild, there are no patches on top of tag
16:57 kkeithley :-/
16:58 post-factum https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/glusterfs/
16:59 kkeithley does Arch have any kind of test phase, or voting, e.g. like Fedora does?
16:59 kkeithley or is just goes directly in on the "say so" of the maintainer?
17:01 post-factum Maintainer does the job
17:01 post-factum https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/plain/trunk/PKGBUILD?h=packages/glusterfs
17:01 kkeithley is Arch based on debian?
17:01 post-factum Ha, no
17:01 post-factum It is not based on something
17:02 kkeithley oka
17:02 kkeithley okay
17:07 kkeithley does it use RPMs or .debs? Or something else?
17:10 kkeithley I guess from that link that it's neither, if that's how they build their packages
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18:49 ndevos kkeithley: JoeJulian maintains the arch package, I think?
18:49 ndevos well, its not his name on that page...
19:02 JoeJulian Nope, not me.
19:10 JoeJulian I've emailed Sergej. He's never responded to my emails, but he does seem to act on them. We'll see.
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