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07:16 nbalacha nigelb, do we have any FreeBSD machines?
07:17 nigelb nbalacha: we have only one
07:17 nbalacha nigelb, any chance I can borrow it?
07:17 nigelb I can create a clone of it if you want one for testing.
07:17 nbalacha nigelb, that would be even better. Thanks
07:17 nigelb Are you okay waiting till tomorrow?
07:18 nigelb File a bug. I'll get it sorted by tomorrow.
07:18 nbalacha ok. thanks
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07:23 post-factum nbalacha: are you the one who could take a look at fuse memory leak?
07:25 nbalacha post-factum, is this the BZ you filed yesterday? the mailbox workload?
07:25 post-factum nbalacha: yep
07:26 nbalacha post-factum, I can take a look. Do you have a script I can run to reproduce it
07:26 post-factum nbalacha: unfortunately, no, this is production load
07:28 nbalacha post-factum, I will take a look at the attachments and get back to you.
07:28 post-factum nbalacha: okay, thanks!
07:29 nbalacha will take some time though as I am currently working on something else
07:29 nbalacha is that ok?
07:29 post-factum nbalacha: sure
07:29 nbalacha post-factum, thanks
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07:56 nigelb nbalacha_lunch: When you're back, can you let me know if you need a domain name for the server?
08:00 nbalacha nigelb, I don't think s
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08:12 nigelb nbalacha: okay, so I may be able to get you a machine today.
08:12 nigelb Just testing first
08:13 nbalacha nigelb, thanks .
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08:14 nbalacha nigelb, have filed https://bugzilla.redhat.co​m/show_bug.cgi?id=1369705
08:14 glusterbot Bug 1369705: unspecified, unspecified, ---, bugs, NEW , Require a FreeBSD system to test on
08:16 nigelb I.. this is awkward.
08:16 nigelb Rackspace says the machine is up.
08:16 nigelb But I can't ping it.
08:16 nigelb Or ssh in.
08:17 nbalacha :)
08:17 nbalacha nigelb, no hurry. I am looking into something else at the moment anyway
08:17 misc nigelb: you clone the freebsd10 ?
08:17 nigelb misc: yeah
08:17 nigelb misc: will that fail?
08:18 misc nigelb: no, but I can imagine some firewall issues if the ip changed, etc
08:18 misc but I doubt that's the issue
08:18 nigelb But would our firewall block ICMP too?
08:19 misc unlikely
08:19 misc mac address duplication ?
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08:19 misc in fact, network could be broken but the cloud wouldn't detect it
08:20 nigelb Let's see.
08:20 nigelb I just did a reboot.
08:20 nigelb I'll try to login from the console next.
08:20 misc mhh, interface mismatch ?
08:20 nigelb I checked for that.
08:20 nigelb my traceroute is going all the way to rackspace.
08:21 nigelb so, I wondering if it's plain delay on their network end points.
08:21 misc # grep ifconfig_xn0= rc.conf
08:21 misc ifconfig_xn0="23.253.163.88 netmask 255.255.255.0 up"
08:21 misc I suspect hardcoding the ip is the cause
08:23 nigelb did we do that?
08:23 nigelb If it's a rackspace standard image, they would have thought of this.
08:23 nigelb Or so I hope.
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08:24 misc true
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08:46 nigelb misc: I ended up just opening a ticket so rackspace can deal with it.
08:47 misc nigelb: wouldn't just a new clone be enough ?
08:47 nigelb Like a fresh server?
08:48 misc yeah
08:48 misc I mean that :/
08:48 misc no coffee yet
08:51 nigelb that would mean setting up the deps again. Do we have those in ansible for freebsd?
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09:08 justinclift nigelb misc: The 10hr mail delivery delay seems to be happening still.  Is that likely fixable?
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09:18 misc nigelb: yes
09:18 misc justinclift: which 10hr mail delivery ?
09:18 misc is there a ticket or a mail ?
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09:21 justinclift misc: It seems like mail delivery to at least gluster-devel is taking 10+ hours.
09:21 justinclift Thus my "disappeared mail" yesterday arriving ~midnight my time ;)
09:21 justinclift (I sent it mid-afternoon)
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09:38 misc justinclift: so, can you give more details ?
09:40 justinclift misc: Sure.  When someone sends an email to gluster-devel, instead of arriving in the next few minutes... it will arrive maybe 10 hours later.
09:40 justinclift The timestamp on them for when they were sent seems a bit wrong too.
09:40 misc justinclift: but it arrives in their own mailbox, or on archives 10h later ?
09:41 justinclift Doesn't arrive in the mailbox.
09:41 misc mhh, and it happened for whom besides you ?
09:41 justinclift eg this isn't just an "online archive is slow to add mail" problem. :)
09:42 justinclift misc: post-factum mentioned this exact same problem yesterday
09:42 misc I do not see much reason to have a issue :/
09:42 kshlm misc, It's happened to me too.
09:43 kshlm Got several replies to the CFP thread in gluster-devel very late.
09:43 justinclift misc: Pretend its windows and reboot it?
09:43 kshlm I only got the 3.8.3 announcement today.
09:43 post-factum misc: yup
09:43 justinclift misc: Don't suppose the system time on the box is out by 10 hours? :)
09:43 misc so, before I start to investigate, who did open a ticket to bugzilla ?
09:44 misc justinclift: nope, we have ntp
09:44 justinclift I haven't
09:44 misc and does it happen on !gluster-devel ?
09:44 justinclift I've only tried with gluster-devel personally
09:44 justinclift kshlm post-factum Are you guys on the other gluster- lists?
09:45 kshlm I am.
09:45 justinclift kshlm: Want to send a test email through that, to see if it's delayed?
09:45 post-factum justinclift: ?
09:46 justinclift post-factum: misc is wondering if it's just a gluster-devel problem, or if the other mailing lists are affected too :)
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09:46 post-factum justinclift: i guess, it is -users as well. 3.8.3 announcement was sent to announce@
09:47 justinclift post-factum: Thanks. :)
09:47 justinclift misc: Does that help?
09:48 kshlm I checked, I've just recieved the announcement from announce@. Not from either gluster-users or gluster-devel.
09:48 kshlm Event that chame in late.
09:48 misc mhh so that's a specific mailman issue
09:49 misc I wonder if that's some kind of I/O issue
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09:56 misc ./smtp:Aug 23 20:59:43 2016 (2065) <019AE419-AEB7-4182-9AC0-9695EE959402@postgresql.org> smtp to gluster-devel for 622 recips, completed in 273.664 seconds
09:56 misc that's 273 seconds is a bit weird
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10:04 misc mhh, maybe a false positive, cause I see a mail from ndevos being also suffering from the same faith on -infra, but headers do not show anything
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10:12 justinclift misc: With the PG servers, it's possible they do grey-listing.
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10:13 justinclift misc: They at least used to, but I'm not sure if that's still being done
10:14 justinclift Grey list is normally around 5 minutes delay from memory, though 273 seconds seems a bit short
10:14 misc justinclift: yeah, but that's not it
10:14 misc looking the mail, there is a delay between supercolony and supercolony
10:16 misc justinclift: can you paste me the headers of the first mail "[Gluster-devel] [gluster-devel] Documentation Tooling Review" ?
10:17 justinclift Sure, one min
10:19 justinclift misc: Full raw source: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/413220/33931147/
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10:21 misc so yeah, between the time mailman receiv and sent it back, there is like 3h delay
10:22 justinclift So, not 10 hours then.  Still, a significant one. :/
10:22 justinclift Hmmm, I'm going to send a test-email to gluster-devel, just to see. :)
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10:24 misc I am currently at the "reading mailman code" stage of debugging
10:24 justinclift Email sent. 10seconds later, email received.
10:24 justinclift So, the delay doesn't seem to be happening any more.
10:24 misc so this was a transiient issue ?
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10:24 justinclift Seems like it. :/
10:24 justinclift So yeah, IO problem not config problem then?
10:25 misc either I/O, or a bad smtp server tarpitting (on purpose or not) the mail delivery from mailman
10:25 misc there is a few subscriber that got disabled tonight
10:26 justinclift Interesting
10:26 justinclift Is there a way to put metrics on this, to notice up front if a delay like this happens?
10:27 justinclift The only thing I can think of is some kind of solution watching the mail delay stats in the mailman logs
10:27 post-factum itisravi: probably, you want cherry-pick 15289 for 3.7 as well then :)
10:27 justinclift This is probably the kind of thing which splunk would be good at :)
10:29 justinclift misc: Thanks for looking into this :)
10:29 misc justinclift: well, I am still unsure of the mailman setting right now
10:29 itisravi post-factum: sure will do :)
10:29 misc and we do not have splunk deployed
10:29 misc nor monitoring yet
10:29 * justinclift wants a <facepalm> emoji :)
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10:31 post-factum itisravi++
10:31 glusterbot post-factum: itisravi's karma is now 20
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10:34 misc mhh could be a dns issue ?
10:35 post-factum itisravi: it seems, 3.7 backport is not that trivial
10:35 post-factum itisravi: if it is necessary at all
10:35 itisravi post-factum: yeah the build seems to have failed. Let me check.
10:40 misc justinclift:  http://munin.gluster.org/munin/gluster.org/su​percolony.gluster.org/postfix_mailqueue.html so something did happen
10:41 misc but besides 1 email no longer responding which doesn't sound like a big issue, I do not see much
10:44 misc I am also a bit annoyed to see munin do not graph entropy :/
10:46 misc mhh it does
10:49 justinclift Hmmm, interesting graphs
10:50 justinclift Good for seeing stuff in hindsight. :/
10:51 misc yeah, would be better if coupled to nagios, or zabbix
10:59 itisravi post-factum:If I include xlator.h in the header things seem to compile
11:00 * itisravi is going it add it and resend
11:00 post-factum itisravi: sounds good
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11:28 kshlm Weekly community meeting starts in 30 minutes in #gluster-meeting
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12:00 kshlm Weekly community meeting starts now in #gluster-meeting
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12:38 kshlm post-factum, I might have missed it because of all the mail coming in at various time. I'll check it out after the meeting.
12:39 post-factum kshlm: just in case https://www.gluster.org/pipermail/gl​uster-devel/2016-August/050549.html
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13:03 kkeithley kshlm++ rastar++
13:03 glusterbot kkeithley: kshlm's karma is now 105
13:03 glusterbot kkeithley: rastar's karma is now 44
13:04 nigelb ndevos: This was my suggestion for major releases: https://github.com/gluster/glusterd​ocs/pull/139#issuecomment-238459025
13:05 nigelb We'll still release something every 3 months, but an extra 3-month state where we do Alpha/Beta/RC.
13:08 nigelb What I'd like to nail down is a) What kind of bugs have we shipped b) How could we have discovered them, and c) How could we automate discovering them.
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13:13 ndevos nigelb: yeah, that is basically what we do with the short-term-stable releases, get experimental features out early, and give it some testing
13:13 nigelb ndevos: Yeah, but what I'm saying is that all releases need to be stable and ready for production use.
13:13 ndevos nigelb: the issue is more with the minor updates we do every month for each 'stable' release
13:13 nigelb AHHH
13:14 * ndevos goes for a late lunch, will be back in ~1 hour or so
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13:18 nigelb That will need more automation, I guess. I can't think of a better way to solve them.
13:19 misc more automation to detect bugs ?
13:19 nigelb yeah.
13:19 misc so more testing :)
13:20 nigelb rastar: btw, the thing that makes me curious about netbsd is where we get hung.
13:20 nigelb rastar: consistently hanging around a few tests, /tests/features/lock_revocation.t leading the lot.
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13:50 nigelb misc: what's a good way to deploy a Flask-based web-app to our setup.
13:50 nigelb openshift?
13:50 misc nigelb: depend, what you want exactly ?
13:51 nigelb misc: I wrote to gluster-infra about this. I'm writing a small web-app to track weekly regression failures.
13:51 nigelb For now Flask web app backed by sqlite. May need postgres in the future.
13:51 misc nigelb: I ma not fond of using openshift v2, but this could be a easy way to start, and later, we can migrate to a regular hosting
13:52 nigelb misc: I won't be ready for hosting for at least 2 weeks.
13:52 nigelb If we can put it on the same host as the bugs app, that works too.
13:52 nigelb It shouldn't take too much resources.
13:54 misc nigelb: start on openshift, we will find later
13:54 misc I still need to finish the move of the bugs web application
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13:55 nigelb works for me.
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15:16 kkeithley errrrrr.  what happened to the logging of the "vote" at the end of the regression tests?
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15:39 ankitraj hey can one change username in gerrit after once he registererd?
15:40 misc that's usually difficult
15:40 ankitraj is there any problem if i continue with my code name there
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15:41 ankitraj that name I used while making github profile which got continued to gerrit..
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16:30 nigelb ankitraj: You should have your gerrit username match your github username.
16:30 nigelb If they don't match you're in trouble.
16:31 ankitraj nigelb, one more doubt.
16:31 ankitraj hey I am fixing coverity issue, while submitting patch there it ask bug id ... Do i need to put CID or leave it as it is?
16:37 nigelb just missed him.
16:37 nigelb dang
16:47 kkeithley @later tell ankitraj re:  while submitting patch there it ask bug id ... Do i need to put CID or leave it as it is?.   File a bug if there isn't already one. Use that.
16:47 glusterbot kkeithley: The operation succeeded.
16:47 misc I think I said to him in a PM where he asked
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16:58 kkeithley okay, good, he got hold of someone. I missed his PM
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