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OriginalTim |
Hey #Gluster, I was wondering if someone is around to help me with a replicating gluster. |
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OriginalTim |
I created the gluster with replica 2 |
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OriginalTim |
and am currently trying to "increase" the amount of bricks. |
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OriginalTim |
without making a distributed-replica. |
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OriginalTim |
Is this possible at all? |
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OriginalTim |
Currently I've just added the extra bricks to the replica volume. It automatically changed it to a distributed. |
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OriginalTim |
The other option would be to make another replica of the replica. But this is an extra point of failure. And you would then need to re-mount the clients to the servers. |
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OriginalTim |
Or do people only use bricks in this scenario to increase storage space and increase iops |
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akay |
hi guys, can someone confirm something for me... when i mount a gluster client to the volume using samba, it connects only to the server i specify - however when i use fuse mount the client opens connections to all nodes? |
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Anyone used an arbiter volume in their replication before? |
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ocramuias |
Hello |
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glusterbot |
ocramuias: Despite the fact that friendly greetings are nice, please ask your question. Carefully identify your problem in such a way that when a volunteer has a few minutes, they can offer you a potential solution. These are volunteers, so be patient. Answers may come in a few minutes, or may take hours. If you're still in the channel, someone will eventually offer an answer. |
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ocramuias |
I have a gluster volume with 40 nodes and 40 bricks i create Distribuited only! If possible change to Distribuited Replicated ? Thank's |
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hagarth |
ocramuias: do you already have data created in this volume? |
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ocramuias |
yes :( |
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ocramuias |
use gluster for storage of mail services |
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hagarth |
ocramuias: do you have enough storage space to create additional bricks? |
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ocramuias |
sure |
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ocramuias |
have 40 bricks 1 per server 2 volumes |
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ocramuias |
total spache used is 4% |
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hagarth |
what is the amount of data stored at the moment? |
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ocramuias |
mmm i need check |
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ocramuias |
3.8T 121G 3.5T 4% /var/qmail |
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hagarth |
It might be a good idea to create a new distributed-replicated volume and rsync data from the old volume to new. once done, you can cleanup the old volume. |
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Schatzi |
hi @all |
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hagarth |
hello |
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glusterbot |
hagarth: Despite the fact that friendly greetings are nice, please ask your question. Carefully identify your problem in such a way that when a volunteer has a few minutes, they can offer you a potential solution. These are volunteers, so be patient. Answers may come in a few minutes, or may take hours. If you're still in the channel, someone will eventually offer an answer. |
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Schatzi |
has anybody some experience with hosting kvm virtual machines on a replicated gluster volume |
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hagarth |
Schatzi: quite a few users use gluster in that fashion |
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Schatzi |
i want to build a setup for testing but i am not quite sure about the optimal hardware to buy |
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ocramuias |
vps Schatzi |
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ocramuias |
hagarth i not know if with this solution i can lost some data |
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hagarth |
Schatzi: a mail on gluster-users might fetch you some hardware recommendations |
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ocramuias |
i need rsync only data or data and gluster indexes ? |
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hagarth |
ocramuias: recommend rsyncing from the gluster mount point |
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hagarth |
ocramuias: having a downtime for a final rsync should ensure that there is no data loss |
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hagarth |
ocramuias: the other option would be to convert a distributed volume to a distributed replicated volume and let self-heal synchronize data. given the amount of self-healing that needs to be done, it might affect your ongoing data traffic too. |
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ocramuias |
bhua the traffic not is a problem gluster work via lan connection 1 gbps |
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ocramuias |
have tutorial for convert volume type ? |
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Schatzi |
my dell servers have a quad nic setup on which i can do a software bonding an get a good speed. but ddr infiniband adapters are listed with a realy cheap price on ebay... perhaps a dedicated infiniband connection only for gluster makes more sense? |
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ocramuias |
schatzi dell servers have virtualization ? |
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ocramuias |
openvz / virtuozzo ? |
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Schatzi |
yes i want them to act as proxmox hosts |
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hagarth |
ocramuias: need to run for a bit, but you can use the add-brick command to do the conversion. itisravi any recommendations here? |
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ocramuias |
proxmox is openvz based |
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Schatzi |
you can build openvz and kvm machines within proxmox |
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ocramuias |
i have some gluster client with openvz / virtuozzo and bonding |
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ocramuias |
not is a problem |
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* itisravi |
looks at the logs above. |
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Schatzi |
i am not sure about placing vps data with thousands auf small files for every vps on the gluster volume? some threads in the forum look like kvm data with only one big image file is performing much better? i do not know :-) |
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ocramuias |
Schatzi not understand! What's the type of Volume you think use? |
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ocramuias |
How many servers you think use? |
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itisravi |
ocramuias: add brick+ running heal full is the right way, but the heal might take a lot of time since you have 40 bricks to be replicated. |
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Schatzi |
i want to start with 3 servers and placing a replica on each server |
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itisravi |
ocramuias: and it can consume a lot of cpu cycles too. |
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ocramuias |
itisravi exist documentation ? |
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ocramuias |
schatzi replica 3 and how many gb or tb ? |
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Schatzi |
so i have to build a replicated volume with replica count 3 if i am correct? |
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Schatzi |
yes :-) |
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itisravi |
ocramuias: http://www.gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Gluster_3.2:_Expanding_Volumes is quite dated but should work. |
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ocramuias |
for example i create 40 serves and choos small disk per any servers (100 Gb) |
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Schatzi |
i have a lot of 2 tb nl-sas disks |
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ocramuias |
thank's itisravi i check docs |
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ocramuias |
you create 3 servers with 2 tb per server ? |
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Schatzi |
which i can use dedicated for gluster bricks |
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ocramuias |
replica 2 or 3 ? |
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Schatzi |
my final state will be 3 servers with 4x 2tb each doing replica 3 |
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ocramuias |
you can schatzi |
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Schatzi |
or is this a bad idea? |
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ocramuias |
4 hdd ? |
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ocramuias |
4 bricks ? |
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Schatzi |
yes |
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itisravi |
ocramuias: The doc suggests to run a rebalance after adding the bricks. If that doesn't work to replicate the data. do a 'gluster volume heal <volname> full` after adding the new bricks. |
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Schatzi |
3 servers with 4x 2tb bricks each |
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ocramuias |
but for me the big problem with gluster is not know where replicas are stored |
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ocramuias |
because for this i choose use only 1 bricks per servers and create 40 servers (with small hdd) |
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ocramuias |
the bricks in you case are real hdd ? |
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Schatzi |
yes they are real hdd |
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ocramuias |
okay is good |
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Schatzi |
i read about gluster is replicating in the order on which the bricks has been added? |
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Schatzi |
lets say i have srv01-03 and brick01-04 on each server |
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Schatzi |
if i start the volume with one brick on each server and replica 3, i think gluster will place a replica on each server :-) |
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Schatzi |
then i will add a second brick on each server |
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Schatzi |
but you are right with doing only one brick on each server |
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Schatzi |
perhaps it is the better way |
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Schatzi |
what network performance do you have on your machines? |
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Schatzi |
40 servers sounds awesome :-) |
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ocramuias |
i use vmware with 10 nodes |
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ocramuias |
and 4 storage in iscsi |
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ocramuias |
2 switch iscsi for data |
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ocramuias |
4 switch for lan and wan 1 Gb port |
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Schatzi |
and your gluster volume is performing better on smaller or bigger files? |
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ocramuias |
i use gluster for store emails |
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ocramuias |
not have bigger files |
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Schatzi |
oh okay :-) |
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ocramuias |
for emails is good |
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Schatzi |
i am asking because i already built a virtual setup for testing with 3 gluster nodes and 1 brick each |
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Schatzi |
and i realized that there is no big difference in performance in writing 1mb x 1000 times or 1000mb x 1 time |
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ocramuias |
in prosmox how to work ha for hdd ? |
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ocramuias |
for example in vmware in some case i need move in other lun the virtual server |
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ocramuias |
and if the vps have big hdd have more time for performe the move |
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ocramuias |
for this i choose have more virtual servers with small hdd |
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ocramuias |
but this is another discussion |
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Schatzi |
in proxmox the config for each vm is stored on all cluster nodes and i put the vm data on the gluster volume as shared storage |
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Schatzi |
so if one hardware node us going down, the vm is directly started on another node |
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Schatzi |
if all is correcty configured :-) |
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ocramuias |
okay |
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Schatzi |
sorry for my bad english or spelling errors, i am from germany ;-) |
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ocramuias |
i from italy (same problem) |
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ocramuias |
:P |
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Schatzi |
hehe okay ;-) |
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Schatzi |
so i will give it a try with multiple bricks on each server and have look if the data is replicated in the correct order |
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ocramuias |
whitout virtualization direct in bare metal ? |
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Schatzi |
and if not, i will build a raid 5 on each node to have only one bigger brick on each node |
| 10:44 |
Schatzi |
yes direct on the bare server... |
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ocramuias |
ehmmm raid 5 replicate , glusterfs replicate ! |
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ocramuias |
how many replicas ? |
| 10:45 |
ocramuias |
in this i think is good not create any raid and replicate only via gluster |
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Schatzi |
yes because of that i want to build it without raid first :-) |
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Schatzi |
i only have these 3 servers and i have to look how to get as much space as possible without loosing data replication |
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ocramuias |
any raid for me |
| 10:49 |
ocramuias |
in 1 disk os system , in 2 ,3 and 4 bricks |
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Schatzi |
with 3 servers having 4x 2tb bricks each and replica count of 3 it results in round about 4x 2tb of total space |
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Schatzi |
i think i will put the os on a little flash storage on each server |
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ocramuias |
is good |
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ocramuias |
4 x 2 = 8 x 3 = 24 tb / 2 = 12 tb or 24 / 3 = 8 tb |
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Schatzi |
so i am not loosing a full hdd tray only for a few megabyte with os |
| 10:52 |
Schatzi |
yes correct, 12 tb with replica 2 and 8 tb with replica 3 |
| 10:52 |
Schatzi |
if am calculating correclty :-) |
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Schatzi |
but in the gluster docs the advise is to have a brick a count as a multiple replica count |
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ocramuias |
oksy 4 is multiple count of 2 ;) |
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Schatzi |
so i think when having 3 servers each with 1, 2, 3 or 4 bricks the better replica count is 3 |
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ocramuias |
what's it the type of your files ? |
| 11:00 |
Schatzi |
kvm data files |
| 11:00 |
ocramuias |
server snapshot ? |
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Schatzi |
vm disk images |
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ocramuias |
server backup ? |
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Schatzi |
no the real data files the virtual machines are working on |
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ocramuias |
real ? |
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ocramuias |
not sure is good idea ;) |
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Schatzi |
no good idea? :-) |
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ocramuias |
mmm no for me no |
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Schatzi |
why not? you think it is not fast enough? |
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ocramuias |
disk images need hardware replication and tested solutions not know if any people in the room try it |
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ocramuias |
i need go afk for 2 hours see you later Schatzi |
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Schatzi |
ok see you later |
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ocramuias |
Enrico italiano ? |
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ocramuias |
bye |
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ocramuias |
hi @all |
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Schatzi |
hi ocramuias |
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hagarth |
@channelstats |
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bluenemo |
lol. good to know :D |
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ndevos |
hi amye, maybe join #gluster-dev too? some things you would like to do/track/... maybe? https://botbot.me/freenode/gluster-dev/2015-09-21/?msg=50180805&page=2 |
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glusterbot |
Title: IRC Logs for #gluster-dev | BotBot.me [o__o] (at botbot.me) |
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JoeJulian |
bug 1181779 |
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amye |
ndevos: sorry, you caught me in a meeting. I'm actually just going to set up a screen so that I'm always in here. (and there.) :) |
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CyrilPeponnet |
Hi guys, I have one question regarding Root squashing doesn't happen for clients in trusted storage pool from https://github.com/gluster/glusterfs/blob/release-3.6/doc/release-notes/3.6.0.md#minor-improvements |
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glusterbot |
Title: glusterfs/3.6.0.md at release-3.6 · gluster/glusterfs · GitHub (at github.com) |
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CyrilPeponnet |
what does this mean ? |
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CyrilPeponnet |
Can I mount a volume from one node from the cluster and access it without the root-squashing ? |
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JoeJulian |
CyrilPeponnet: "Provide one more option for mounting which actually says root-squash |
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JoeJulian |
should/should not happen. This value is given priority only for the trusted |
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JoeJulian |
clients. For non trusted clients, the volume option takes the priority. But |
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JoeJulian |
for trusted clients if root-squash should not happen, then they have to be |
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JoeJulian |
mounted with root-squash=no option. (This is done because by default |
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JoeJulian |
blocking root-squashing for the trusted clients will cause problems for smb |
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JoeJulian |
and UFO clients for which the requests have to be squashed if the option is |
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JoeJulian |
enabled)." |
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JoeJulian |
(gah, should have removed the newlines) |
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JoeJulian |
Found that at http://review.gluster.org/#/c/4863/ |
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glusterbot |
Title: Gerrit Code Review (at review.gluster.org) |
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CyrilPeponnet |
oh so I can mount from a trusted peer a volume and set not root-squash as client options and this will work ! |
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CyrilPeponnet |
Good to know :) |
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CyrilPeponnet |
Thanks @JoeJulian you made my day easier :) |
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cristov_mac |
Hi there~ |
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cristov_mac |
anyone hear me ? |
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JoeJulian |
hello |
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JoeJulian |
cristov_mac: ^ |
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_maserati |
hai! |
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_maserati |
I beat the system. |
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smokinggun |
greetings - any best practices for ensuring a client mounts, when the client is started before the servers are ready? (ie all machines have been rebooted). All servers are Unbuntu 15.04 |
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