Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #gluster, 2015-11-27

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15:02 JoeJulian @which bricks
15:02 glusterbot JoeJulian: I do not know about 'which bricks', but I do know about these similar topics: 'which brick'
15:02 JoeJulian @which brick
15:02 glusterbot JoeJulian: To determine on which brick(s) a file resides, run getfattr -n trusted.glusterfs.pathinfo $file through the client mount as root.
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15:08 JoeJulian @targeted fix-layout
15:08 glusterbot JoeJulian: You can trigger a fix-layout for a single directory by setting the extended attribute distribute.fix.layout to any value for that directory. This is done through a fuse client mount. This does not move any files, just fixes the dht hash mapping.
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15:37 ToMiles @JoeJulian did have time to figure anything more out about full heal Bug 1284863 we talked about earlier this week?
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15:41 JoeJulian bug 1284863
15:41 glusterbot Bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com:443/show_bug.cgi?id=1284863 medium, unspecified, ---, bugs, NEW , Full heal of volume fails on some nodes "Commit failed on X", and glustershd logs "Couldn't get xlator xl-0"
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16:00 JoeJulian No clue. I wonder why that bug didn't get triaged. I thougt they'd done a triage meeting since you put that in.
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16:03 ToMiles not that it is urgent dont think it hurts to leave the cluter for a while without a full heal if all nodes are stable
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16:51 dym Hey! im trying to think of a good way of autodeploying aws ec2 webservers automagically. i've setup 2 servers with gluster, bricks on both and a volume across them. Is there a best practice on how to spawn additional machines and add them to the cluster pool without actually knowing the neighbors "names/ip's"?
16:51 dym i spin up a machine that has a spare partition, partitioned e.g. xfs and how do i join it to an existing glustercluster?
16:52 JoeJulian Not really, no.
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16:53 JoeJulian You have to add the new server to the trusted peer group from one of the trusted peers.
16:53 dym JoeJulian: say i dont have a way of adressing this machine - how would i go on about doing that?
16:53 dym since i dont know it's ip address and i dont know when it might spawn
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16:55 JoeJulian Perhaps we're looking at this wrong. What might trigger this dynamic change?
16:55 dym JoeJulian: AWS Autoscaling. On load thresholds aws automatically spawns new webserver instances and i want to use gluster as a way of auto-deploying this machine with files.
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16:56 JoeJulian that's what I was afraid of.
16:56 dym oh :D
16:56 dym is that a bad thing to do?
16:56 JoeJulian https://joejulian.name/blog/glusterfs-replication-dos-and-donts/
16:56 glusterbot Title: GlusterFS replication do's and don'ts (at joejulian.name)
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16:59 dym JoeJulian: the idea was to use the volume as a r/w mount on each server
16:59 dym JoeJulian: So you would suggest to only have a certain number of glusterclients and then mount the volume on the webservers instead?
17:01 JoeJulian certain number of gluster servers, yes. All your webservers would them be clients.
17:01 JoeJulian @glossary
17:01 glusterbot JoeJulian: A "server" hosts "bricks" (ie. server1:/foo) which belong to a "volume"  which is accessed from a "client"  . The "master" geosynchronizes a "volume" to a "slave" (ie. remote1:/data/foo).
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17:01 JoeJulian Randomly adding servers when you're most busy would leave you unhappy.
17:03 dym JoeJulian: i see. So i would run - say - 2/3 servers with bricks and then create a volume that could be r/w for a multitude of webservers, right?
17:03 JoeJulian right
17:04 dym Does a webserver only ever mount via one brickserver, or can i adress them centrally?
17:04 JoeJulian @mount server
17:04 glusterbot JoeJulian: (#1) The server specified is only used to retrieve the client volume definition. Once connected, the client connects to all the servers in the volume. See also @rrdns, or (#2) One caveat is that the clients never learn of any other management peers. If the client cannot communicate with the mount server, that client will not learn of any volume changes.
17:04 JoeJulian @rrdns
17:04 glusterbot JoeJulian: You can use rrdns to allow failover for mounting your volume. See Joe's tutorial: http://goo.gl/ktI6p
17:05 dym round robin is the best practice approach? :D
17:05 JoeJulian yes
17:05 JoeJulian imho
17:05 dym So say a webserver goes for the rr approach and it's given ip1 from dns - when that times out, how long until next mount try?
17:06 JoeJulian network rtt
17:06 dym ok
17:06 dym Is this a valid approach for data replication, compared to drbd?
17:06 JoeJulian It's a tcp connection, so standard tcp connection timeouts and protocols.
17:07 JoeJulian After drbd destroyed my data for the third time, I can never take that as a serious option.
17:07 dym :D
17:07 dym i see
17:09 dym JoeJulian: thank you very much.
17:09 dym this enlightened my day :)
17:11 JoeJulian You're welcome. And with that, since I was awoken early on this holiday morning by an errant on-call list that somehow had me on it, and a customer that somehow thinks that our ops should diagnose his ephemeral vm's problems (ext4 corruption due to a kernel bug), I'm going to go back to bed and read a book. Have a great day.
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17:38 dym JoeJulian: and you!
17:38 dym I have an additional little problem mounting my gfs volume - maybe someone has an idea:  https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ch8KF5uE
17:38 dym 0-glusterfs-fuse: 2: LOOKUP() / => -1 (No such file or directory) puzzles me
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17:43 dym mhh, think it has to do with me adding the nodes with /etc/hosts shortnames instead of ip's
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17:50 felicity i'm having a problem with GlusterFS 3.7.5 where files will randomly appear empty: https://dpaste.de/Cr7k - any ideas?  (it's a replica 3 arbiter 1 volume on xfs mounted via fuse)
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17:54 glusterbot Title: dpaste.de: Snippet #341797 (at dpaste.de)
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20:25 JoeJulian dym: As long as all your servers and client can resolve the hostnames to all servers, that's the recommended configuration instead of using ip addresses.
20:26 JoeJulian felicity: I've been hearing reports of that with arbiter volumes. I haven't seen a bug report filed for that. Perhaps you can file a bug report? The problem's been solved by not using the arbiter.
20:26 glusterbot https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=GlusterFS
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